Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

Loughlin's daughters posed on a rowing machine for their "crew" photos, so, yeah, they knew what was going on.

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Anonymous wrote:For USC to act outraged at this is absurd. Hopefully they don't take donations for buildings from donors who happen to have kids applying to the school because this is the same

Umm, that’s literally what’s done all of the time, everywhere.

Every school has a development office, even Publics.

Yep. Exactly my point

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Anonymous wrote:For USC to act outraged at this is absurd. Hopefully they don't take donations for buildings from donors who happen to have kids applying to the school because this is the same

Umm, that’s literally what’s done all of the time, everywhere.

Every school has a development office, even Publics.

Yep. William and Mary...cough, cough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

Other way around : prosecutor must show they did know about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

Huffman's daughter isn't actually in college yet. She would be (have been) in the class of 2023.

I think most schools will do what USC's anonymous source said.

If the indictments have clear evidence that students knew, they will be expelled. If there isn't proof, then they will be able to stay.

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Anonymous wrote:TMZ is reporting that USC will evaluate on a case-by-case basis but will expel any students who were aware of the fraud. Didn't the Loughlin girl pose on a rowing machine so her dad could send "action pics" for her doctored admissions file? Hope she's kicked out STAT.

Amazing how morally bankrupt these parents and kids are.

Why do the kids need to know about the fraud? They should be kicked out because they were admitted on fradulent credentials. It doesn't matter if they knew or not. That's life.

+1 and the kids who got in based on sports know for a fact that they never rowed.

Well, that's evidence they knew of the fraud and should be kicked out. Both Loughlin girls are probably packing their bags right now.

A kid who was unaware their parents defrauded the admissions process, and then went on to have a strong academic record? More complicated case.

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Anonymous wrote:Aunt Becky and her husband never went to college and seemed naïve about the whole process and desperate.

The interesting thing about Felicity Huffman is she's a different case--she's a WASP, the daughter of a partner at Morgan Stanley, and a Yale legacy.

"Huffman was born in Bedford, New York, into a wealthy family, the daughter of Grace Valle (née Ewing; 1921–2009)[1] and Moore Peters Huffman (1910–1987), a banker and partner at Morgan Stanley.[2][3] Her parents divorced a year after her birth, and she was raised by both of her parents.[4][5] When she was a young teenager, she discovered that her biological father was Roger Tallman Maher, who was a family friend.[4] She has six sisters, Mariah, Betsy, Grace, Isabel, Jessie, Jane (1949–2013),[6] and a brother, Moore Jr. [7][8] Her great-grandfather was Gershom Moore Peters (1843–1919), founder of the Peters Cartridge Company and prominent Baptist minister, author of The Master.[9] Another great-grandfather, Frederick Berthold Ewing, graduated from Yale University and became a prominent St. Louis businessman. Her great-great-grandfather was Joseph Warren King (1814–1885), founder of the King Mills Powder Company"

Where does William H Macy fit into all of this? They’re still married, right?

They're still married. They haven't charged him--yet. The guy claims he met with him as well as huffman but my guess is so far the trail of money, emails, etc. goes back only to her and her accounts--would make sense they keep all their stuff separate for legal and other reasons since they are both high-earning and high-profile.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

Loughlin's daughters posed on a rowing machine for their "crew" photos, so, yeah, they knew what was going on.

PP here - exactly. They definitely knew!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

It's up to the schools (said the FBI in press conference)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

It's up to the schools (said the FBI in press conference)

Why would they want to stay?

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Anonymous wrote:The accommodations scam needs to end. Kids who never needed before all of the sudden in 8th grade needed for the high school entry standardized tests. Total scam. Like therapy dogs.

But but, my transgender Haitian black kid with ADHD and processing issues has PTSD due to trauma so he really really needs some help.

Don't be a racist xenophobe antihuman pig, remember how holistic we all holistically are.

PP said the scams have to end. Not the real accommodations. The scammers are really hurting the kids who need it.

This. 50 some odd pages before anyone mentions this. This is going to hurt the kids who need those accommodations. I'm a mom of a child with disabilities who needs the accommodations. I hate that the fbi included the handwriting sample for the one kid in the affidavit. I know I shouldn't diagnose but it looks like dysgraphia to me. The kid probably has other disabilities as well. I'm not saying his mom derserves special treatment. I think including the writing sample was mean spirited. Some of the first posts on the thread were makig fun of the kid for his handwriting. My child has experienced so many nasty comments because of the dysgraphia. We've had to deal with teachers who ignored the iep and tried to punish child for handwriting. Ignorance about disabilities is prevalent and harmful. My child has extended time and did very well on college tests. My child is very bright but struggles in many ways due to child's disailities. My child needs the accommodations to even the playing field. What Singer and his cheating proctors and college coaches did is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aunt Becky and her husband never went to college and seemed naïve about the whole process and desperate.

The interesting thing about Felicity Huffman is she's a different case--she's a WASP, the daughter of a partner at Morgan Stanley, and a Yale legacy.

"Huffman was born in Bedford, New York, into a wealthy family, the daughter of Grace Valle (née Ewing; 1921–2009)[1] and Moore Peters Huffman (1910–1987), a banker and partner at Morgan Stanley.[2][3] Her parents divorced a year after her birth, and she was raised by both of her parents.[4][5] When she was a young teenager, she discovered that her biological father was Roger Tallman Maher, who was a family friend.[4] She has six sisters, Mariah, Betsy, Grace, Isabel, Jessie, Jane (1949–2013),[6] and a brother, Moore Jr. [7][8] Her great-grandfather was Gershom Moore Peters (1843–1919), founder of the Peters Cartridge Company and prominent Baptist minister, author of The Master.[9] Another great-grandfather, Frederick Berthold Ewing, graduated from Yale University and became a prominent St. Louis businessman. Her great-great-grandfather was Joseph Warren King (1814–1885), founder of the King Mills Powder Company"

Where does William H Macy fit into all of this? They’re still married, right?

He's in the phone transcripts that were tapped. He was totally in on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

This is what I wonder. I mean, sure they can insist the kids knew nothing about it, but how can they prove it? Especially the details given about Felicity Huffman's daughter taking the SAT over a two-day period and having the "fixer" correct her answers. She didn't realize what was going on?? Duh. OR how about the daughters of Lori Loughlin being recruited for crew, yet NEITHER ONE had ever participated in the sport?? Surely there was some sort of recognition or discussion about the fact that USC was recruiting them for crew - and they "didn't know about it"? Makes no sense.

Loughlin's daughters posed on a rowing machine for their "crew" photos, so, yeah, they knew what was going on.

PP here - exactly. They definitely knew!

& a school counselor got suspicious and asked about the crew business. They knew

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the kids get to stay at the schools is my question?

It's up to the schools (said the FBI in press conference)

Why would they want to stay?

+1 their classmates comments will be brutal