Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are making an assumption that someone was flying the plane for 7 hours. You don't know what happened aboard that plane. Perhaps the pilot was alive, or trying to deal with a malfunction at first, and later passed out, and the plane went on flying on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and plunged into the Indian Ocean.

Maybe the pilot turned off the transponder and the other device (whatever it was) by hand, but after that, who knows what happened? If you are dealing with a hijacker and potential mass murderer, the state of mind of this person has to be pretty unstable once he starts stealing the plane.

Most of this weird scenario could be explained by malfunctioning equipment, but once the plane changed direction, it becomes clear that someone did it deliberately, but toward what end? And where is the plane? It simply can't be on dry land. The odds of that are infinitesimal unless this was a brilliant plot by a mastermind, timed and planned to perfection.

If it's malfunction, then why didn't the pilots let the air traffic controllers know? why did they never issue an emergency yell or let anyone know they were in distress?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WHY WOULD ANYONE HIJACK A PLANE AND FLY IT FOR 7 HOURS??? WHY? WHY? WHY? DOESNT MAKE SENSE

Maybe when they first took the plane, and turned off the transponders, they knew we would think the plane crashed in the ocean. They didn't know about the subsequent satellite pinging.

I still think they took the plane to use in an attack later. We WOULDN'T all be looking for it if we thought it was at the bottom of the ocean. It's only because of the pinging that we know it flew for 7 hours - long enough to get to a hangar in a hostile state.

Why not? Wouldn't the families want to recover the bodies of their loved ones? We'd keep looking for it even if we were certain it crashed into the ocean. The Air France plane took 2 years to recover, but that didn't stop the search.

This is much more mysterious, since we have those "pings" lasting 7 hours.

If someone deliberately turned off the transponder, they probably knew about the pinging. Anyone turning off the transponder had sophisticated knowledge about that airplane.

I wonder if malfunction/explosion could have turned off the transponders and redirected the plane? It seems unlikely, but until we know, if we ever do, all of this is mere speculation. Nothing I've read leads me to believe that the plane is anywhere but at the bottom of the Indian Ocean. No reliable evidence points in any other direction -- yet.

[Anonymous]

It's pretty well established now it's not a malfunction. It's either the pilot/co-pilot or a crew/passenger hijacker doing it, or forcing the pilots to do it. The next question is, where did it go?

Although north would be the logical choice, the airspace is heavily monitored/guarded. However; just like Malaysia didn't notice the plane doubling back and flying in its airspace over its land, maybe China or India didn't notice. This is interesting, because if true, that country may not want to admit that as it's embarrassing and shows they are vulnerable.

Here's a very big, nicely laid out map:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2

[Anonymous]

From what I saw on the news, turning off the transponders was as easy as simply switching a switch in plain sight. Not very sophisticated or complicated. The pinging -- wouldn't that be built into the plane somewhere?

[Anonymous]

Was the pinging ever coming from over land?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well established now it's not a malfunction. It's either the pilot/co-pilot or a crew/passenger hijacker doing it, or forcing the pilots to do it. The next question is, where did it go?

Although north would be the logical choice, the airspace is heavily monitored/guarded. However; just like Malaysia didn't notice the plane doubling back and flying in its airspace over its land, maybe China or India didn't notice. This is interesting, because if true, that country may not want to admit that as it's embarrassing and shows they are vulnerable.

Here's a very big, nicely laid out map:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2

And how is that well established??? What empirical evidence do they have about this besides PURE SPECULATION??? You can not mechanically certify a plane that has disappeared!!!! They can not explain what happened and that is the reason why they are putting the blame on the pILOTS because of course BOEING is such an amazing name that nothing can go wrong mechanically. I really do not see any reason why someone would want to hijack plane just to fly it for 7 hours and crash it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are making an assumption that someone was flying the plane for 7 hours. You don't know what happened aboard that plane. Perhaps the pilot was alive, or trying to deal with a malfunction at first, and later passed out, and the plane went on flying on autopilot until it ran out of fuel and plunged into the Indian Ocean.

Maybe the pilot turned off the transponder and the other device (whatever it was) by hand, but after that, who knows what happened? If you are dealing with a hijacker and potential mass murderer, the state of mind of this person has to be pretty unstable once he starts stealing the plane.

Most of this weird scenario could be explained by malfunctioning equipment, but once the plane changed direction, it becomes clear that someone did it deliberately, but toward what end? And where is the plane? It simply can't be on dry land. The odds of that are infinitesimal unless this was a brilliant plot by a mastermind, timed and planned to perfection.

If it's malfunction, then why didn't the pilots let the air traffic controllers know? why did they never issue an emergency yell or let anyone know they were in distress?????

That's a darn good question, unless the malfunction involved a depressurization of the airplane that rendered everyone unconscious in minutes (and most passengers were likely asleep at 1 a.m.). But in that case, if the pilots were incapacitated, the plane would not have changed course, so the mystery remains.

If this is driving us crazy, imagine how frustrated the families of those on board are feeling right now. In this age of sophisticated tracking, how can an enormous airplane loaded with security safeguards and 230 people disappear without a trace? There is much the Malaysian government and neighboring countries are not telling the public.

[Anonymous]

I don't think a mechanical failure is possible. Ghost flights fly in a straight path until they run out of fuel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think a mechanical failure is possible. Ghost flights fly in a straight path until they run out of fuel.

I meant pressurization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think a mechanical failure is possible. Ghost flights fly in a straight path until they run out of fuel.

what if something was wrong with the direction n thats why it turned around

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well established now it's not a malfunction. It's either the pilot/co-pilot or a crew/passenger hijacker doing it, or forcing the pilots to do it. The next question is, where did it go?

Although north would be the logical choice, the airspace is heavily monitored/guarded. However; just like Malaysia didn't notice the plane doubling back and flying in its airspace over its land, maybe China or India didn't notice. This is interesting, because if true, that country may not want to admit that as it's embarrassing and shows they are vulnerable.

Here's a very big, nicely laid out map:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2

And how is that well established??? What empirical evidence do they have about this besides PURE SPECULATION??? You can not mechanically certify a plane that has disappeared!!!! They can not explain what happened and that is the reason why they are putting the blame on the pILOTS because of course BOEING is such an amazing name that nothing can go wrong mechanically. I really do not see any reason why someone would want to hijack plane just to fly it for 7 hours and crash it!

Ok let me rephrase. Yes, theoretically, anything is possible. But given the timing of the plane taking the turn (after signing off from Malaysian airspace and before signing on to Vietnamese airspace) and that the communication devices were turned off manually, one after the other, and that the plane ascends and descends and turns again etc, implies human control, not autopilot, and not malfunction.

So. Just saying--yes, fine, could be a malfunction, could be autopilot. But for discussion's sake, if we go off that assumption that it's a hijacking with not an intent to ditch the plane in the ocean, but to get to some destination--what are likely destinations, and over what routes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well established now it's not a malfunction. It's either the pilot/co-pilot or a crew/passenger hijacker doing it, or forcing the pilots to do it. The next question is, where did it go?

Although north would be the logical choice, the airspace is heavily monitored/guarded. However; just like Malaysia didn't notice the plane doubling back and flying in its airspace over its land, maybe China or India didn't notice. This is interesting, because if true, that country may not want to admit that as it's embarrassing and shows they are vulnerable.

Here's a very big, nicely laid out map:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2

And how is that well established??? What empirical evidence do they have about this besides PURE SPECULATION??? You can not mechanically certify a plane that has disappeared!!!! They can not explain what happened and that is the reason why they are putting the blame on the pILOTS because of course BOEING is such an amazing name that nothing can go wrong mechanically. I really do not see any reason why someone would want to hijack plane just to fly it for 7 hours and crash it!

Ok let me rephrase. Yes, theoretically, anything is possible. But given the timing of the plane taking the turn (after signing off from Malaysian airspace and before signing on to Vietnamese airspace) and that the communication devices were turned off manually, one after the other, and that the plane ascends and descends and turns again etc, implies human control, not autopilot, and not malfunction.

So. Just saying--yes, fine, could be a malfunction, could be autopilot. But for discussion's sake, if we go off that assumption that it's a hijacking with not an intent to ditch the plane in the ocean, but to get to some destination--what are likely destinations, and over what routes?

How do we know they were turned off manually? That could very well be a malfunction, no? If it is to get to a destination, who would really think they can get away with landing a 777 somewhere and not be detected and get away with it?? What are they going to do with the 200+ bodies on boards? This would require such a high level of intelligence coordination, people working together that it is almost impossible that someone would even think about this.

[Anonymous]

Who first reported the plane missing? And at what time was it reported missing? I didn't see that info in any news stories -- anyone know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's pretty well established now it's not a malfunction. It's either the pilot/co-pilot or a crew/passenger hijacker doing it, or forcing the pilots to do it. The next question is, where did it go?

Although north would be the logical choice, the airspace is heavily monitored/guarded. However; just like Malaysia didn't notice the plane doubling back and flying in its airspace over its land, maybe China or India didn't notice. This is interesting, because if true, that country may not want to admit that as it's embarrassing and shows they are vulnerable.

Here's a very big, nicely laid out map:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/satellite-locates-malaysian-flight-370-still-flying-seven-hours-after-takeoff/2014/03/15/96627a24-ac86-11e3-a06a-e3230a43d6cb_graphic.html?hpid=z2

And how is that well established??? What empirical evidence do they have about this besides PURE SPECULATION??? You can not mechanically certify a plane that has disappeared!!!! They can not explain what happened and that is the reason why they are putting the blame on the pILOTS because of course BOEING is such an amazing name that nothing can go wrong mechanically. I really do not see any reason why someone would want to hijack plane just to fly it for 7 hours and crash it!

Ok let me rephrase. Yes, theoretically, anything is possible. But given the timing of the plane taking the turn (after signing off from Malaysian airspace and before signing on to Vietnamese airspace) and that the communication devices were turned off manually, one after the other, and that the plane ascends and descends and turns again etc, implies human control, not autopilot, and not malfunction.

So. Just saying--yes, fine, could be a malfunction, could be autopilot. But for discussion's sake, if we go off that assumption that it's a hijacking with not an intent to ditch the plane in the ocean, but to get to some destination--what are likely destinations, and over what routes?

How do we know they were turned off manually? That could very well be a malfunction, no? If it is to get to a destination, who would really think they can get away with landing a 777 somewhere and not be detected and get away with it?? What are they going to do with the 200+ bodies on boards? This would require such a high level of intelligence coordination, people working together that it is almost impossible that someone would even think about this.

I'd love to live in your world. You think simultaneously hijacking several US planes and skilfully flying them into landmark buildings didn't "require such a high level of coordination and people working together"? Wake up! This shit is only far-fetched until it happens.

[Anonymous]

Also that transponder is situated between the pilots and can be shut off with a twist of the wrist, what if it was ACCIDENTALLY turned off, that could happen!