Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voluntarily trapped….


Hahahah

It's more than "voluntarily trapped" think about it.

What 8th grade team coach wants to deal with losing 9th grade (playing down Aug/Sept birthdays) that leave the team for 2-4 months during the high school season?

Coachrs wont roster the play downs because having a winning season is how they keep their job.

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What's a 8th grade team coach?
Never heard of that

Travel Soccer goes by calendar age groups, no?

You're just saying things to be argumentative.

Even under BY because most of the players will be a certain grade that is the grade team it represents. However SY is different 99.9% of all players will be a certain grade. Because of this and because college recruiters/coaches will look at teams by grade so will everyone else.

You can sit there saying "technically" or "actually" this is a SY 8/1-7/31 seasonal year team. People will look at you weird and walk away.

[Anonymous]

Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.

They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No clue what you're trying to say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.

They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams

There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.

They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams

There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.

They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams

There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.

Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"

That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some clubs aren't as far along as those with the FAQs. At mine, we just had a coach (HS level) acknowledge the issue but said he didn't have any good info yet, other than he personally thought the club probably wouldn't want to break up older teams, especially if the group does well and gets along right now. He also promised more info from the club upcoming soon. So a big stay-tuned for us.

This is the logical approach. Clubs have spent years grooming older teams into playing together with little drama from players and parents. Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. Breaking these teams and players up for wins (nobody cares) when everyone is playing to get recruited doesn't make sense.

They broke all the teams up last time it switched. No problem at all. Why would they suddenly behave differently this time?

Do you comment without reading the ccomment you're replying to?

"Throw in that older players are likely communicating with college coaches who expect to see them with a certain number and on a specific team. "

Those are 2 very real and very specific reason not to break up older teams

There were certainly kids talking to coaches last time as well and that did not stop any of the big clubs from completely re-forming all teams by BY. Those reasons existed then and no one cared. We just re-formed all the teams. Done. Zero thought was given to your supposed reasons.

Can you point to a club website in the area that says (basically): "We will not reform teams if players are talking to college coaches."?

Why would clubs tell parents anything? They hold all the cards now. The more they say the more they paint themselves into a corner.

Look at the coaches that coach the oldest teams. Its usually the club owner or someone high up the chain. This is because they want "easy" teams with minimal drama. This along with the college recruiting angle is why you wont see much movement in older teams.

Yep, there will be little drama. They will just re-form them by the new age groupings date range and move on. You are correct. Zero drama in that. Just like they did last time.

With younger not older teams.

Older teams will age out in 1-3 years anyway so why mess with them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"

That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

Nobody believes you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this seriously a thread? Tell the kids it’s a new rule handed down and move on. You are the problem, not the DC.

No, it is not a serious thread. It is mainly a delusional August guy talking to himself. But as you noted, this is exactly as it will go. The age groups will shift to the new dates, everyone will change to that and move on. Just like last time.

Oh good you're back.

Everyone knew you wouldn't leave even though you said that you would.

I never said I was leaving. I like to check in on your delusions every one in a while Delusional August guy. I particularly enjoy when you pretend to be someone else.

This what you wrote literally yesterday

"Look we need to say it. August guy is right on one level: Playing on grade makes sense for recruiting.

I'm done adding anything here (so about third of the arguing by my reckoning will end -- my apologies for adding to the dumpster fire). Hopefully, that'll help lead to more productive sharing about what's actually happening at clubs.

In the meantime, good luck to all, especially if you have a kid in this world right now, that while sometimes is amazing to be apart of is all too often a toxic stew that resembles many an anonymous thread"

That wasn't me dummy. I was at actual soccer events all weekend! And, oddly enough, there are a ton of people trying to actually participate in this thread normally who are not delusional like yourself. I know it is hard to believe with all of voices in your head. But take your pills and concentrate.

Nobody believes you.

Nobody being you and the different voices in your head? That's fine.