Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.


DP. I support all innocents. But unlike the Israeli government and many posters on this thread, I don't believe Jewish (Israeli) innocents are worth more than Palestinian innocents. The Israeli government's war crimes against civilians in Gaza over the past 10 days indicate that they do think this.
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Anonymous wrote:From the NYTimes:

American officials say they have multiple strands of intelligence — including infrared satellite data — indicating that the deadly blast at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday was caused by Palestinian fighters.

The intelligence includes satellite and other infrared data showing a launch of a rocket or missile from Palestinian fighter positions within Gaza. American intelligence agencies have also analyzed open-source video of the launch showing that it did not come from the direction of Israeli military positions, the officials said. Israeli officials have also provided the United States with intercepts of Hamas officials saying the strike came from forces aligned with Palestinian militant groups.

“While we continue to collect information, our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open-source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday,” said Adrienne Watson, a spokeswoman for the National Security Council.

Other U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive information, cautioned that the analysis was preliminary and that they were continuing to collect and analyze evidence. Multiple officials said the evidence gathered so far refutes claims that Israeli forces were responsible for the blast and was strong enough for President Biden to make comments supporting Israel’s account of events.


So why come out and say it was Islamic Jihad? So now they know, but not for sure, that it wasn't Israel even though the investigation is not complete.
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Anonymous wrote:11am and MSNBC has a chyron saying "Hundreds killed in Gaza hospital blast" - still doing Hamas' propaganda work for them

Mainstream media is not equipped to properly report quickly and authoritatively enough to stop the spread of misinformation.

We are doomed.


There were likely hundreds killed.
A blast happened at a Gaza hospital.

Neither of those facts are disputed.

The damage assessment is clear, it wasn't an israeli missile, but that doesn't make MSNBC chyron wrong.


If it was so clear, why it still being investigated?
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Why do all the protesting students wear masks? Covid?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s been interesting watching the increasingly frantic anti-Israeli poster get more and more outlandish as the facts get clearer and clearer. I imagine she knows the truth but really wants Israel to have bombed a hospital. It should be good news that they didn’t, but that would cause the frantic PP to have to examine her biases and I imagine that is too hard to contemplate for her.

I know this much. I’m not going to believe any claims of mass casualties at this point absent extensive evidence. Hamas boasted about all their murders in their own Telegram, and there is independent corroboration, so I believe the initial Hamas attack happened. But it’s pretty clear now that this hospital attack was nothing like originally claimed, and mainstream media essentially uncritically promoted what turns out to have been Hamas propaganda.

I am not going to believe any of it any more unless there is a lot more proof.


You dont believe a hospital bombing in a completely devastated civilian warzone would have mass casualties?

This is the tipping point.

You only care about yours - it’s complete lack of empaty and humanity that is showing the true colors of Israel.

I’ve had enough.




I’m not Jewish or Israeli and in fact in the past have mostly been sympathetic to Palestinians. What I am interested in are facts, and there is extensive drone video of the actual hospital now. We can see it.

I know you are desperately hoping for mass casualties because of an Israeli bomb, and your hysteria is very visible from your posts, but I have no interest in your fantasy world when hard evidence exists.


This is the sick part--the Palestinian/Hamas shills on this site are GLAD that the hospital was struck, b/c it creates a propaganda opportunities for them.

They want to inflame the situation, incite more terror attacks against Israel (and possibly the US), and destabilize the ME.

They don't care that the result would be tens or hundreds of thousands of additional civilian deaths.

This has been the terrorist playbook for the last 50 years.

That's why they're so insistent that Israel struck the hospital--b/c it's the only narrative that serves their violent goals.




That's exactly it -

1. a rocket goes off course in Gaza
2. it lands in a parking lot next to a hospital
3. that becomes 3a.) THEY BOMBED A HOSPITAL and 3b.) IT WAS THE IDF
4. "bombed a hospital" becomes "THE HOSPITAL WAS LEVELED, COMPLETELY DESTROYED!!!"
5. "hospital destroyed becomes" "500 DEAD!!!!"
6. "500 dead and a hospital destroyed" becomes "THE IDF USED A US JDAM AND DELIBERATELY TARGETED A HOSPITAL!!!!"
7. THE US AND IDF MURDERED 500 PEOPLE IN A HOSPITAL!
8. RIOT IN THE STREETS!!!! STORM THE EMBASSIES!!!

Yet the next morning we learn that the rocket a.) was a typical Gazan rocket, which went off course and landed in a parking lot, and didn't even damage the awnings on the building, let alone destroy it

How shameful. The Hamas spin machine is completely out of control and will get innocent people killed.


You've already killed thousands of innocent people. Stop feigning empathy for human life now.

Israel bombed the hospital just like they told the hospital staff and doctors that they would.


You're still lying. There was a general evacuation order that applied to everyone, the hospital included. And if you are outraged about the IDF killing thousands of people then why are you INSISTING ON LYING about a hospital being destroyed and 500 people killed? Wasn't the thousands already enough, why lie and grotesquely embellish like this? Your lies do not have any excuse. Stick to truths. You only harm your cause by lying like this.


Russia bombing Ukraine civilians was and is okay because they warned Ukraine the bombings were coming.
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Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.


DP. I support all innocents. But unlike the Israeli government and many posters on this thread, I don't believe Jewish (Israeli) innocents are worth more than Palestinian innocents. The Israeli government's war crimes against civilians in Gaza over the past 10 days indicate that they do think this.


Hamas' war crimes indicate that they think Jewish lives are worthless. They are like the Nazis. They want every Jew dead everywhere. And there are a lot of Palestinians and Palestinian supporters who agree. It's everywhere on social media. For example, look at the Professor Russell Rickford at Cornell who said the events of October 7th were exhilirating for the Palestinians and himself. There is a pervasive depraved attitude that many have towards Jews (Zionists).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:11am and MSNBC has a chyron saying "Hundreds killed in Gaza hospital blast" - still doing Hamas' propaganda work for them

Mainstream media is not equipped to properly report quickly and authoritatively enough to stop the spread of misinformation.

We are doomed.


There were likely hundreds killed.
A blast happened at a Gaza hospital.

Neither of those facts are disputed.

The damage assessment is clear, it wasn't an israeli missile, but that doesn't make MSNBC chyron wrong.


Some were killed, but not "hundreds," a number which was thrown out in the immediate aftermath of the explosion by Hamas. And the MSM just reported it without any checking. Look at Al Jazeera's website - they persist in reporting it as "an attack." And now the entire Middle East is a mess, and Biden's meetings with Arab leaders canceled - all based on a lie.
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Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.


DP. I support all innocents. But unlike the Israeli government and many posters on this thread, I don't believe Jewish (Israeli) innocents are worth more than Palestinian innocents. The Israeli government's war crimes against civilians in Gaza over the past 10 days indicate that they do think this.


THIS!!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.


DP. I support all innocents. But unlike the Israeli government and many posters on this thread, I don't believe Jewish (Israeli) innocents are worth more than Palestinian innocents. The Israeli government's war crimes against civilians in Gaza over the past 10 days indicate that they do think this.


Point to posters who are saying Jewish lives are worth more.
Anonymous
This is clearly not war of self defense for Israel anymore.
We are all shocked at the atrocities of Hamas, and at the total number of casualties
I think we can all agree that we have the right to oppose this war without being called cold hearted or pro Hamas, pro Palestinians or antisemitics
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is clearly not war of self defense for Israel anymore.
We are all shocked at the atrocities of Hamas, and at the total number of casualties
I think we can all agree that we have the right to oppose this war without being called cold hearted or pro Hamas, pro Palestinians or antisemitics


How is it not a war of self defense? Point to clear evidence.

Israel is allowing aid in. They did not bomb the hospital.
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Biden has proven to be useless in containing or controlling the crisis.


“Shortly after Biden’s remarks, Israel confirmed food, water and medicine would begin to flow.” https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-israel-hamas-gaza-palestinians-a85cb682fdc61b80285cf4ab354354ce

And two navy ships not enough for you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday. It is becoming more and more clear:

“While we continue to collect information, our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday,” White House National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson says in a statement.

Tell us how this violence will stop, or tell us what needs to happen before it will stop.
I am thinking Sa’ars plan to redraw Gaza border, the more I think about it, the more it seems like a road to nowhere
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Anonymous wrote:no one here supports Hamas - stop these ridiculous claims. We support the INNOCENTS being killed, staved and deprived of basic human rights.

the root of the issue here is that Israel believes the invisible dude in the sky said that they can have the land Palastine currently occupi(ed). You can't convince them otherwise and they have justified their horrific treatment and war crimes against Palestinians because of this.

Biden is complicit in this horror and is going to pay at the polls.



No, you only support certain INNOCENTS. Non Jewish ones.


DP. I support all innocents. But unlike the Israeli government and many posters on this thread, I don't believe Jewish (Israeli) innocents are worth more than Palestinian innocents. The Israeli government's war crimes against civilians in Gaza over the past 10 days indicate that they do think this.


Hamas' war crimes indicate that they think Jewish lives are worthless. They are like the Nazis. They want every Jew dead everywhere. And there are a lot of Palestinians and Palestinian supporters who agree. It's everywhere on social media. For example, look at the Professor Russell Rickford at Cornell who said the events of October 7th were exhilirating for the Palestinians and himself. There is a pervasive depraved attitude that many have towards Jews (Zionists).


Stop bellyaching and tell Israel to FREE Palestine, stop stealing their land, and stop killing innocent civilians. Israel will get not a second of peace until they stop oppressing Palestinians. Your woe is me everyone hates Jews is just deflecting from the atrocities committed by Israel in the name of "self defense." Israel is NOT an innocent party in this war. How can Jews experience the Holocaust and be so blind to the fact that they are doing to Palestinians some of the same things Hitler did to Jews? You're playing the victim while committing war crimes.
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