NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue NY is going to have is that they are going to get stuck with many Venezuelans and who have committed crimes because Venezuela has a history of not taking back its citizens who have deportation orders from the US. They stopped for 4 years then only started back again in October but paused flights 2 or 3 weeks ago.

It’s the same with several countries including Pakistan who refuse to take back visa overstayers and others with deportation orders.

Abbots strategy is brilliant because he probably realize this and doesn’t want to get stuck with a large population of migrants who aren’t eligible for work papers and can’t be deported.

Not so brilliant, because Texas has got its own problems like a high rate of births to teenagers. Why import juvenile delinquents when you can just create your own? https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/21/texas-teenage-pregnancy-abortion/

This kind of attempted "gotcha" is just sad. Has nothing to do with this discussion, and certainly has no relevance to the question of whether Abbot's strategy is "brilliant" or not. Also pretty messed up that you are saying teenage pregnancy equates to "juvenile delinquents."

[Anonymous]

The UK is planning to fly all illegal entrants aka asylum seekers to Rwanda. Can we do the same?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This criminal is 15 years old.
From Venezuela.
Had been staying in a migrant shelter - a hotel.

According to immigration experts, these migrants will pay into Social Security to keep it going for old Americans.

I assume you are sarcastic, but the left has gone so crazy I could imagine people on Biden's team saying that, so I have to ask - are you serious?

I was being sarcastic, but I think the left genuinely believes it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The UK is planning to fly all illegal entrants aka asylum seekers to Rwanda. Can we do the same?

Even Piers Morgan realizes this is a bad idea and a bad approach to problem solving

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The UK is planning to fly all illegal entrants aka asylum seekers to Rwanda. Can we do the same?

No, it’s stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The UK is planning to fly all illegal entrants aka asylum seekers to Rwanda. Can we do the same?

No, it’s stupid

Australia's full up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This criminal is 15 years old.
From Venezuela.
Had been staying in a migrant shelter - a hotel.

According to immigration experts, these migrants will pay into Social Security to keep it going for old Americans.

I assume you are sarcastic, but the left has gone so crazy I could imagine people on Biden's team saying that, so I have to ask - are you serious?

New person here. The illegals all get a free cell phone from the US govt when they cross and/or at their first ICE meeting. The cell phones are tracking devices and the illegals are required to take a picture of themself once a month and upload it to a US govt site. Once the illegal has one of their early ICE meeting it puts them on a path to get a social security card. It takes about 6-8 months for the illegal to get the social security card. Once the illegal has the social security card and social security number he/she can work legally.

The only reason I know all of this is that my family helped a Colombian illegal that my sister came across in the airport in a red state. The red state had very little services. He worked cash jobs for the first 8 months but it was very challenging to get these. My sister knows a lot of people. His first job was at the brewery. He worked there for three days but owners told my sister they could not pay him cash more than 3 days as it is illegal after that. The owners wanted him back after he got his social. His next job was at the local convenience market. They could only pay him cash for 3 days. The owners told my sister they want him back after he got his social. Job #3 was a local sandwich shop. The owners kept him on and kept paying him cash. Owners of job #3 sold their business and found him job #4 at a restaurant.

After 9 months he got his social security card and he can work legal. He is now working at a high end restaurant and is living in housing provided by the restaurant for its workers.

It is about 8-9 months for an illegal to get a social security card and work legal if they go through the US govt process.

My sister found it very difficult to get cash jobs in the interim and she knows everyone in the town.

About the only supports he had in this town was the local food bank. My sister set him up with a membership and he biked over to get his food bag once a week. He also volunteered at the food bank. My sister also got him clothing at the thrift shop.
He was dressed rough when she met him.

He is Evangelical Christian and has a wife and two daughters in Medellin, Colombia. He thought it was very dangerous making the journey and particularly crossing the Rio Grande. He said no way would he subject his wife and daughters to the journey.
He did not know English and has google translate on his phone. One of the challenges was finding an Evangelical Church. There were none in the area and no Spanish speaking services of any kind in the area. My sister tried out several churches in the area but ended up starting him out with a men's bible study once a week at the local Presbyterian church. We called the pastor and told him the pastor he knows "0" English but he is looking for connections and the pastor said send him over to the group. His English is slowly getting better probably helped by the fact he is around zero Spanish speakers.

I just thought I'd share the process on how the illegals get a social security card and start working legally. The process takes between 6-9 months if they go to their ICE meetings and have the tracking device on the US govt free phones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This criminal is 15 years old.
From Venezuela.
Had been staying in a migrant shelter - a hotel.

According to immigration experts, these migrants will pay into Social Security to keep it going for old Americans.

I assume you are sarcastic, but the left has gone so crazy I could imagine people on Biden's team saying that, so I have to ask - are you serious?

New person here. The illegals all get a free cell phone from the US govt when they cross and/or at their first ICE meeting. The cell phones are tracking devices and the illegals are required to take a picture of themself once a month and upload it to a US govt site. Once the illegal has one of their early ICE meeting it puts them on a path to get a social security card. It takes about 6-8 months for the illegal to get the social security card. Once the illegal has the social security card and social security number he/she can work legally.

The only reason I know all of this is that my family helped a Colombian illegal that my sister came across in the airport in a red state. The red state had very little services. He worked cash jobs for the first 8 months but it was very challenging to get these. My sister knows a lot of people. His first job was at the brewery. He worked there for three days but owners told my sister they could not pay him cash more than 3 days as it is illegal after that. The owners wanted him back after he got his social. His next job was at the local convenience market. They could only pay him cash for 3 days. The owners told my sister they want him back after he got his social. Job #3 was a local sandwich shop. The owners kept him on and kept paying him cash. Owners of job #3 sold their business and found him job #4 at a restaurant.

After 9 months he got his social security card and he can work legal. He is now working at a high end restaurant and is living in housing provided by the restaurant for its workers.

It is about 8-9 months for an illegal to get a social security card and work legal if they go through the US govt process.

My sister found it very difficult to get cash jobs in the interim and she knows everyone in the town.

About the only supports he had in this town was the local food bank. My sister set him up with a membership and he biked over to get his food bag once a week. He also volunteered at the food bank. My sister also got him clothing at the thrift shop.
He was dressed rough when she met him.

He is Evangelical Christian and has a wife and two daughters in Medellin, Colombia. He thought it was very dangerous making the journey and particularly crossing the Rio Grande. He said no way would he subject his wife and daughters to the journey.
He did not know English and has google translate on his phone. One of the challenges was finding an Evangelical Church. There were none in the area and no Spanish speaking services of any kind in the area. My sister tried out several churches in the area but ended up starting him out with a men's bible study once a week at the local Presbyterian church. We called the pastor and told him the pastor he knows "0" English but he is looking for connections and the pastor said send him over to the group. His English is slowly getting better probably helped by the fact he is around zero Spanish speakers.

I just thought I'd share the process on how the illegals get a social security card and start working legally. The process takes between 6-9 months if they go to their ICE meetings and have the tracking device on the US govt free phones.

How long ago was this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue NY is going to have is that they are going to get stuck with many Venezuelans and who have committed crimes because Venezuela has a history of not taking back its citizens who have deportation orders from the US. They stopped for 4 years then only started back again in October but paused flights 2 or 3 weeks ago.

It’s the same with several countries including Pakistan who refuse to take back visa overstayers and others with deportation orders.

Abbots strategy is brilliant because he probably realize this and doesn’t want to get stuck with a large population of migrants who aren’t eligible for work papers and can’t be deported.

Not so brilliant, because Texas has got its own problems like a high rate of births to teenagers. Why import juvenile delinquents when you can just create your own? https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/21/texas-teenage-pregnancy-abortion/

This kind of attempted "gotcha" is just sad. Has nothing to do with this discussion, and certainly has no relevance to the question of whether Abbot's strategy is "brilliant" or not. Also pretty messed up that you are saying teenage pregnancy equates to "juvenile delinquents."

Not really. Texas is a severely messed up state which enacts policies will result in the proverbial "chicken come home to roost" one day soon. It's all fair game. The fact that you dismiss what you don't want to hear is sad.

And another thing, oldster - It's only one space between sentences now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Corporations eagerly hire cheap, exploitable migrant labor to break strikes, weaken unions, and force employees of all nationalities and backgrounds to accept lower wages and worse working conditions. This abuse is why, until relatively recently, many folks on the left railed against illegal immigration.

Legendary labor activist Cesar Chavez famously condemned it. Former President Obama, probably the most talented politician in living memory, noted, "The idea that we can just have open borders is something that ... as a practical matter, is unsustainable."

Sen. Bernie Sanders, in 2015, emphasized the need for limits on immigration. He decried open borders as a "Koch brothers proposal," referring to the billionaire libertarians who believe almost nothing should restrict businesses. Open Borders would "make a lot of Americans poorer" and lead to a glut of desperate people who'd "work for $2 or $3 an hour."

Multiple peer-reviewed studies have confirmed the validity of their concerns, and proven that a massive expansion of the labor pool drives down wages, especially for minority workers.

So it's no wonder that ordinary voters, including those on the left, support measures to ensure that jobs only go to Americans and legal immigrants. For instance, 58% of Democrats want to "mandate that all employers use the federal electronic E-Verify system to help ensure that they hire only legal workers for U.S. jobs," according to a Rasmussen poll taken in late March."

and yet Democrats continue to reject e-Verify. idiots

only a fool or business owner would vote for the current team of democrats

lol.. business owners don't want e-verify, including many Rs. Look at the list of those who are against it.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/260334-mike-fernandez-florida-e-verify/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue NY is going to have is that they are going to get stuck with many Venezuelans and who have committed crimes because Venezuela has a history of not taking back its citizens who have deportation orders from the US. They stopped for 4 years then only started back again in October but paused flights 2 or 3 weeks ago.

It’s the same with several countries including Pakistan who refuse to take back visa overstayers and others with deportation orders.

Abbots strategy is brilliant because he probably realize this and doesn’t want to get stuck with a large population of migrants who aren’t eligible for work papers and can’t be deported.

And, the reason they will not take back their citizens...... they reportedly empty their prisons and send them north to the US.

That’s what Castro did in the 80’s. He emptied both prisons and insane asylum and put them on boats headed to the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now they are allowing some to receive welfare benefits as well.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/10/metro/thousands-of-migrants-get-cash-aid-through-hochul-policy-change/

Hochul just might force some of these NY voters to flip to Republican......

From your link:

Councilman Robert Holden (D-Queens) agreed, saying “The endless handouts to the entire world are a slap in the face to every citizen who has contributed to and sacrificed for this country.”

“It’s time to end this madness,” he added.

I do wonder if NYers will continue to vote for Democrats, even after all of this. They probably will. And I will have ZERO sympathy for any of them.

I think they will not. The special election today should be interesting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The issue NY is going to have is that they are going to get stuck with many Venezuelans and who have committed crimes because Venezuela has a history of not taking back its citizens who have deportation orders from the US. They stopped for 4 years then only started back again in October but paused flights 2 or 3 weeks ago.

It’s the same with several countries including Pakistan who refuse to take back visa overstayers and others with deportation orders.

Abbots strategy is brilliant because he probably realize this and doesn’t want to get stuck with a large population of migrants who aren’t eligible for work papers and can’t be deported.

Venezuela ,much like socialist sister Cuba did in the 70s, has also emptied the jails and asylums as they can’t afford funding them and forced many of those people to either leave to the US in 48 hours or face life in jail or death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have housing shortages, medical shortages, rising food prices, rising prices on multiple goods and services. This is all driven by supply and demand.

We don't need the migrants. They're driving down labor prices and they're using up scarce resources. Idiot fringe liberal communities are showering them with benefits that under-served, tax paying citizens who've more than paid their dues to society aren't getting.

Sent them all back, whether their countries want them back or not. And submit an invoice to their governments for the cost of sustaining them while they were here. The bill won't be paid, but maybe it can be deducted from aid provided to these countries. Force their governments to take accountability for deliberately sending their jailbait to the U.S., and for facilitation the migrant flight out of their countries.

Make birth control education and information a necessity in the countries receiving U.S. aid. A big part of the problem is the poverty caused by over-population problems in these nations.

So you want the country who wants to take away women’s medical rights and ban birth control to educate other countries on ….. birth control?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have housing shortages, medical shortages, rising food prices, rising prices on multiple goods and services. This is all driven by supply and demand.

We don't need the migrants. They're driving down labor prices and they're using up scarce resources. Idiot fringe liberal communities are showering them with benefits that under-served, tax paying citizens who've more than paid their dues to society aren't getting.

Sent them all back, whether their countries want them back or not. And submit an invoice to their governments for the cost of sustaining them while they were here. The bill won't be paid, but maybe it can be deducted from aid provided to these countries. Force their governments to take accountability for deliberately sending their jailbait to the U.S., and for facilitation the migrant flight out of their countries.

Make birth control education and information a necessity in the countries receiving U.S. aid. A big part of the problem is the poverty caused by over-population problems in these nations.

So you want the country who wants to take away women’s medical rights and ban birth control to educate other countries on ….. birth control?

Who, besides a weird and small fringe—wants to ban birth control in the US?

Definitely need developing countries to have more robust birth control. I’m not a huge fan of massive amounts of FA but I would definitely support programs to expand BC in developing/undeveloped countries.