Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.

Media was very quick to blame Israel. Say what you want about Breitbart, but they are one news organization who are not interested in posting unvetted information to get clicks.


That's because an Israeli spokesman said Israel had bombed the hospital.


Please provide a link to this statement.



https://twitter.com/DenisRogatyuk/status/1714364376633766388?s=20


And, here is a follow up to that link:



Thank you for posting this. I hope the original poster sees this.
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Anonymous wrote:This is just so sad
I was horrified when I heard about the Hamas attacks and was so ready to stand with Israel.
We can all agree that the number of innocents dead have grown much larger. I reserve the right to mourn every innocent life lost

I do not believe Israel has anything to gain anymore. So why can the fighting not stop?

Biden has proven to be useless in containing or controlling the crisis.


You realize Israel needs to defend itself, right?

Israel is fine, this doesn’t need to go on


Ah ok. Hope you never are in a situation where you need a safe room in your house, like every single Israeli home.



What did they expect would happen when they put their neighbors in an open air prison, killed thousands of them every year, drop white phosphorous on them, and bomb their civilians? Is this how peaceful countries act?


+1 Israel acting as if it didn't help create the situation that led to the massacre is absurd.
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Anonymous wrote:From the Archbishop of Canterbury himself (the pope of the Episcopal Church for lack of a better analogy) on Sunday, October 15 where he states al-Ahli hospital has been struck by rockets and damaged, that the hospital is operating in dire and catastrophic conditions and that the hospital cannot meet the evacuation orders and pleads with Israel to reverse their hospital evacuation order (this was SUNDAY).

I don’t know who bombed the hospital on Tuesday, either way the hospital and the Archbishop were begging for help prior to this event. Was anyone actually listening?

https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/gaza-hospitals-are-facing-catastrophe-says-archbishop-canterbury


The Church of England is Anglican, not Episcopalian. Carry on.


Wrong. OMG, people posting and lying when easily obtained information can be googled.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Church_(United_States)


It’s funny that people don’t even know who runs their own church.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When our own members of Congress promote what now appears to be Hamas disinformation, it is difficult to convince Arab countries and Arab leaders that Israel did not have the responsibility in this explosion.





Where was your outrage when President Biden and the media promoted Israeli disinformation (aka LIES) about beheaded babies?
Anonymous
Shame on the news organizations who rushed to blame Israel for the regrettable hospital explosion. One would think that all the NGOs foaming at the mouth about Israrl would at least gently nudge their “team” to relocate the weaponry.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s been interesting watching the increasingly frantic anti-Israeli poster get more and more outlandish as the facts get clearer and clearer. I imagine she knows the truth but really wants Israel to have bombed a hospital. It should be good news that they didn’t, but that would cause the frantic PP to have to examine her biases and I imagine that is too hard to contemplate for her.

I know this much. I’m not going to believe any claims of mass casualties at this point absent extensive evidence. Hamas boasted about all their murders in their own Telegram, and there is independent corroboration, so I believe the initial Hamas attack happened. But it’s pretty clear now that this hospital attack was nothing like originally claimed, and mainstream media essentially uncritically promoted what turns out to have been Hamas propaganda.

I am not going to believe any of it any more unless there is a lot more proof.


You dont believe a hospital bombing in a completely devastated civilian warzone would have mass casualties?

This is the tipping point.

You only care about yours - it’s complete lack of empaty and humanity that is showing the true colors of Israel.

I’ve had enough.




I’m not Jewish or Israeli and in fact in the past have mostly been sympathetic to Palestinians. What I am interested in are facts, and there is extensive drone video of the actual hospital now. We can see it.

I know you are desperately hoping for mass casualties because of an Israeli bomb, and your hysteria is very visible from your posts, but I have no interest in your fantasy world when hard evidence exists.


This is the sick part--the Palestinian/Hamas shills on this site are GLAD that the hospital was struck, b/c it creates a propaganda opportunities for them.

They want to inflame the situation, incite more terror attacks against Israel (and possibly the US), and destabilize the ME.

They don't care that the result would be tens or hundreds of thousands of additional civilian deaths.

This has been the terrorist playbook for the last 50 years.

That's why they're so insistent that Israel struck the hospital--b/c it's the only narrative that serves their violent goals.


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Anonymous wrote:When our own members of Congress promote what now appears to be Hamas disinformation, it is difficult to convince Arab countries and Arab leaders that Israel did not have the responsibility in this explosion.





Good for them for not propagating Israel's lies. I've not donated to them before but will do so now. They are the only ones telling the truth.


Quite the contrary. Donate if you want.
But, they are promoting Hamas propaganda at this point. All of the evidence points to an errant missile fired from Gaza. And, as far as I know, there are no IDF forces in Gaza firing missiles.
Then, we have that pesky audio tape......

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Anonymous wrote:It’s been interesting watching the increasingly frantic anti-Israeli poster get more and more outlandish as the facts get clearer and clearer. I imagine she knows the truth but really wants Israel to have bombed a hospital. It should be good news that they didn’t, but that would cause the frantic PP to have to examine her biases and I imagine that is too hard to contemplate for her.

I know this much. I’m not going to believe any claims of mass casualties at this point absent extensive evidence. Hamas boasted about all their murders in their own Telegram, and there is independent corroboration, so I believe the initial Hamas attack happened. But it’s pretty clear now that this hospital attack was nothing like originally claimed, and mainstream media essentially uncritically promoted what turns out to have been Hamas propaganda.

I am not going to believe any of it any more unless there is a lot more proof.


You dont believe a hospital bombing in a completely devastated civilian warzone would have mass casualties?

This is the tipping point.

You only care about yours - it’s complete lack of empaty and humanity that is showing the true colors of Israel.

I’ve had enough.




I’m not Jewish or Israeli and in fact in the past have mostly been sympathetic to Palestinians. What I am interested in are facts, and there is extensive drone video of the actual hospital now. We can see it.

I know you are desperately hoping for mass casualties because of an Israeli bomb, and your hysteria is very visible from your posts, but I have no interest in your fantasy world when hard evidence exists.


This is the sick part--the Palestinian/Hamas shills on this site are GLAD that the hospital was struck, b/c it creates a propaganda opportunities for them.

They want to inflame the situation, incite more terror attacks against Israel (and possibly the US), and destabilize the ME.

They don't care that the result would be tens or hundreds of thousands of additional civilian deaths.

This has been the terrorist playbook for the last 50 years.

That's why they're so insistent that Israel struck the hospital--b/c it's the only narrative that serves their violent goals.




Please tone down your rhetoric. You're not helping. You're making things worse when you do the very thing that you're complaining about.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:When our own members of Congress promote what now appears to be Hamas disinformation, it is difficult to convince Arab countries and Arab leaders that Israel did not have the responsibility in this explosion.





Where was your outrage when President Biden and the media promoted Israeli disinformation (aka LIES) about beheaded babies?


Tlaib's tweet appears to be down, Omar's is still up.
Anonymous
The funny thing is nobody would even care about the hospital bombing if the idiots in Netanyahus cabinet didn’t tweet about it.

Israel has bombed hospitals before in previous Gaza wars and nobody batted an eyelash . It’s due to the sheer incompetence coming out of Israeli government that this even went viral.

They can’t act in silence and confidence like they usually do so this time they need to convince themselves they are winning.

They bombed Reuters in Lebanon because there were reports Israeli casualty count on the ground was growing and Hezbollah/Hamas were unshakeable. The Lebanese would gladly appreciate the IDF getting rid of Hezbollah and Hamas but it doesn’t seem they can.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is just so sad
I was horrified when I heard about the Hamas attacks and was so ready to stand with Israel.
We can all agree that the number of innocents dead have grown much larger. I reserve the right to mourn every innocent life lost

I do not believe Israel has anything to gain anymore. So why can the fighting not stop?

Biden has proven to be useless in containing or controlling the crisis.


You realize Israel needs to defend itself, right?

Israel is fine, this doesn’t need to go on


Ah ok. Hope you never are in a situation where you need a safe room in your house, like every single Israeli home.



What did they expect would happen when they put their neighbors in an open air prison, killed thousands of them every year, drop white phosphorous on them, and bomb their civilians? Is this how peaceful countries act?


Ok so in your mind, Hamas is justified in attacking and Israel is not justified in responding.

As it happens, thousands of Palestinians were not killed per year.

6,400 Palestinians have died in the conflict since 2008. Roughly 426 per year on average.

This does not include the current conflict.


6,407 dead and over 150K injured. Meanwhile, only 300 Israelis died over the same period with just 6,300 injured. The stats are undeniably one-sided. https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
Of course, there are also 5,000 imprisoned with 1500 imprisoned with no charges. This is not ok no matter how you try to minimize the numbers.

Israel is the subject of attacks because it created an environment for terrorism - in the same way that the United States and Britain are very much responsible for the current Iranian regime. Israel should call a ceasefire and come to immediate negotiations for a two state solution. There must be a buffer zone between the two countries with a UN or other neutral body ensuring peace for the next few decades. Israel continuing with illegal settlements, terrorizing citizens, and maintaining a permanent prison for 2M is untenable.
Anonymous
Such guilt and self-hate, and such contrarianism, that privileged white Americans are siding with terrorist organizations supported by the likes of Russia, Iran and North Korea. It might actually take a world war for these people to get their heads of their ass-s and deal with reality.
Anonymous
From 2014....The overlords bombing hospitals in Gaza....something the pro-Israel team claims Israel would never, ever, ever do.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/another-gaza-hospital-hit-israeli-strike-four-dead-40-hurt-n161086
Anonymous
When people died from a missile strike i. the market in Ukraine, everyone including Ukraine, blamed Russia. Evidence then suggested that it was a Ukrainian missile misfiring. These things happen. Doesn’t negate the fact that Russia is responsible for atrocities and violence in Ukraine. I urge everyone to wait for more information on the hospital bombing before assigning blame. Linking an article in the market bombing in Ukraine. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/18/world/europe/ukraine-missile-kostiantynivka-market.html#:~:text=Witness%20accounts%20and%20an%20analysis,bustling%20street%2C%20with%20devastating%20consequences.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.

Media was very quick to blame Israel. Say what you want about Breitbart, but they are one news organization who are not interested in posting unvetted information to get clicks.


That's because an Israeli spokesman said Israel had bombed the hospital.


Please provide a link to this statement.



https://twitter.com/DenisRogatyuk/status/1714364376633766388?s=20


And, here is a follow up to that link:



Thank you for posting this. I hope the original poster sees this.


Of course he is going to say that. He's a paid propagandist. That is literally his job!
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