Looks like a new Gaza war has started

Anonymous
The people screeching for blood is now like forget the hospital. No, there was so much outrage over it and misinformation and anger and handwringing and it was misguided. You hypocrites.

There are still women and children hostages possibly out there that are tortured by Hamas. I want to see the outrage over that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-says-islamic-jihad-rocket-misfire-caused-gaza-hospital-blast/

Here is an article explains that the blast on the hospital happened in the parking lot of the hospital.


From the Times of Israel. Nice objective source.


Actually, I have found their reporting to be very fair over the many years I have been reading it.


Every Israeli media outlet is deferential to the statements of IDF.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-says-islamic-jihad-rocket-misfire-caused-gaza-hospital-blast/

Here is an article explains that the blast on the hospital happened in the parking lot of the hospital.


From the Times of Israel. Nice objective source.


The pictures alone suggest that it wasn't a JDAM from the sky. There is basically no evidence to suggest that events went as Hamas claimed. Also, the damage was in the adjacent parking lot, not the hospital itself. People can claim whatever they want, but the facts as presented speak for itself.


There are no facts when videos are posted and then deleted, or when claims of responsibility are deleted or modified. You and your arm chair expertise are in no position to determine what the facts are.
Anonymous
This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.
Anonymous


There is NO "JDAM" crater. Most damage was in a parking lot and is consistent with the type of damage caused by Hamas rockets.



Add this to the released audio where Hamas acknowledges it was one of their own



And additional footage from other angles that clearly show it was a misfired Islamic Jihad missile



Seems pretty conclusive to me that it wasn't the IDF.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Forget the hospital. Regardless of who is responsible, Israel is still vowing to destroy Hamas and doesn't care if they kills thousands of innocent people to do it. Not to mention decimating the tiny sliver of homeland that the occupied Palestinians were "granted." Living occupied is not living. And now they'll have no homes to return to anyway. Israel's behavior is abominable.


Israel has repeatedly stated that it cares. They have repeatedly stated they are only targeting Hamas and have urged civilians to move south. It’s interesting that you don’t talk about Hamas impeding the ability of its civilians to move into safer areas and you don’t discuss Jordans and Egypt’s refusals to allow civilians to take refuge in their countries. What kind of response do you think would be appropriate for Israel to take against Hamas for the slaughter of at least 1300 people? Should Israel just say, “OK that was a really bad thing to do?” In all seriousness, how should Israel respond to this attack?


People keep answering this and you keep not liking the answer you’re hearing: Israel should respond to Hamas in a fashion that doesn’t include committing war crimes.

Yes, Israel did say people should evacuate south— then they bombed southern cities including where foreign nationals, and U.S. Citizens, are trying to escape. That’s knowingly targeting civilians who are following your own instructions.

The reason you don’t hear people talk about Hamas is the same reason no one wrings their hands over the educational standards of Al-Quaeda: we don’t have high expectations of terrorist groups. Israel is a state, seeking and receiving billions in U.S tax dollars. We therefore have a responsibility as citizens to know what our money supports. Personally I don’t want it supporting the killing of children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.


BBC reported that at the time of blast 4000 people were taking shelter in that hospital and casualties were much higher than 600. However, U.S media is singing a different tune but that’s to be expected. Truth is the first casualty of war.
Anonymous
Biden agrees that's it was the moron Islamic terrorists that did it, case closed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-heads-middle-east-inflamed-by-gaza-hospital-blast-2023-10-18/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The people screeching for blood is now like forget the hospital. No, there was so much outrage over it and misinformation and anger and handwringing and it was misguided. You hypocrites.

There are still women and children hostages possibly out there that are tortured by Hamas. I want to see the outrage over that.


We won't see any outrage because Jews don't count.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem at this point is that the Hamas misinformation sparked a tinderbox that has now spilled to several other countries in the form of protests and attacks at different Embassys.

It is pretty hard to put the genie back in the bottle.


That was no doubt Hamas's intentions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.


BBC reported that at the time of blast 4000 people were taking shelter in that hospital and casualties were much higher than 600. However, U.S media is singing a different tune but that’s to be expected. Truth is the first casualty of war.


Every video points to that it wasn’t the IDF. Now seems like a few cars were burnt instead of that 600 number. Digging in on this doesn’t help your cause.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Biden agrees that's it was the moron Islamic terrorists that did it, case closed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-heads-middle-east-inflamed-by-gaza-hospital-blast-2023-10-18/


Of course he HAD to say that, how else would he justify standing next to Netanyahu???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was also reprehensible reporting. It caused protests around embassies and possible peace discussions with Arab leaders to be scuttled. Turns out no blast and not even casualties. The media needs to be ashamed of itself.


BBC reported that at the time of blast 4000 people were taking shelter in that hospital and casualties were much higher than 600. However, U.S media is singing a different tune but that’s to be expected. Truth is the first casualty of war.


Every video points to that it wasn’t the IDF. Now seems like a few cars were burnt instead of that 600 number. Digging in on this doesn’t help your cause.


We’re you this nonchalant in dismissing the number of Israelis killed by Hamas or is it because in your mind Palestinian lives are not of importance so numbers don’t matter.
Anonymous
^Were
Anonymous
Monitoring Russian media. Propaganda news not mentioning the possibility of Hamas rockets misfiring. More mainstream Russian media “Biden claims it was the “other team””.
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