If you think Republicans are going to kill the TJ lottery....

Anonymous
Think again.

Lottery systems are an absolute staple at charter schools, many of whom rank extremely highly in US News and World Report rankings.

Republicans are generally strongly in favor of charter schools because they draw away from public schools and offer "school choice" to their constituents.
Anonymous
Lottery works. And it’s the only way to stop the madness. As long as some parents will pay to send their kids to summer-long TJ prep camps, the system is gamed against low income students.

~ Secretly Thrilled TJ Parent
Anonymous
Oh my god. Basically no one agrees with you people.

Anonymous
Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


Supreme Court opinions are laws of the land binding on everyone. Don’t cry now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


Supreme Court opinions are laws of the land binding on everyone. Don’t cry now.


ok- which one are you referring to?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Think again.

Lottery systems are an absolute staple at charter schools, many of whom rank extremely highly in US News and World Report rankings.

Republicans are generally strongly in favor of charter schools because they draw away from public schools and offer "school choice" to their constituents.


I know for sure the democrats won't kill it. They are the author of this proposal.

TJ is not a charter school. It is a school for gifted students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


It is not a race blind lottery according to fcps’ own ppt and materials submitted to the SB. Brabrand cannot be incompetent anymore. Can’t make these stuff up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


It is not a race blind lottery according to fcps’ own ppt and materials submitted to the SB. Brabrand cannot be incompetent anymore. Can’t make these stuff up.



did you receive your law degree from the Springfield Diploma Mill?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lottery works. And it’s the only way to stop the madness. As long as some parents will pay to send their kids to summer-long TJ prep camps, the system is gamed against low income students.

~ Secretly Thrilled TJ Parent


But the system became "gamed" because originally some low income student's parents decided education was the most important thing for them and did what it took and paid what it cost. And today, maybe those Asian families are no longer low income but that too should is a story in itself.

There was and is absolutely nothing stopping Black and Hispanic families from doing the same. And just like Asian families, they might not have had super success at first but they stuck with it and now their kids dominate.

Not once in the past five years, have I seen the Black or Hispanic community do anything to create test prep programs and push their kids to attend existing ones. Yes, it takes money, so yes, you have to redirect some of your budget to it and take away from other areas. This is the middle class way. So if those families are trying to get out of the low income trap they should understand and start embracing middle class ways.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


It is not a race blind lottery according to fcps’ own ppt and materials submitted to the SB. Brabrand cannot be incompetent anymore. Can’t make these stuff up.



did you receive your law degree from the Springfield Diploma Mill?


No top 50 law school. Happy now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


it's a race blind lottery. There is absolutely zero case law striking down race blind lotteries under either the 14th amendment or the civil rights act (those would presumably be the basis of any lawsuit, but then again the people screaming it's illegal haven't really pointed to any actual laws).


It is not a race blind lottery according to fcps’ own ppt and materials submitted to the SB. Brabrand cannot be incompetent anymore. Can’t make these stuff up.



did you receive your law degree from the Springfield Diploma Mill?


No top 50 law school. Happy now?


you should ask about a refund
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just repeating the same mantra doesn’t make it so keep being delusional. Conservatives really dislike racial preferences period.


A lottery is race-neutral. The fact that it is replacing a process that was NOT race-neutral doesn't have any bearing on whether or not the lottery itself is legal.

If Asians want the school to continue to be 75% Asian, which based on these boards seems like their biggest priority, then all they have to do is send enough qualified applicants to the lottery so that the pool is 75% Asian in each region.

But I'm not here for folks who will claim disparate impact once applications from all other demos spike because they're hoping that it won't be filled with racists who think they're smarter than everyone else.

Think I'm exaggerating? Go check out LITERALLY ANY TJ student Facebook groups.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Think again.

Lottery systems are an absolute staple at charter schools, many of whom rank extremely highly in US News and World Report rankings.

Republicans are generally strongly in favor of charter schools because they draw away from public schools and offer "school choice" to their constituents.


I know for sure the democrats won't kill it. They are the author of this proposal.

TJ is not a charter school. It is a school for gifted students.


Yep, but it is a Governor's school. It is a public school. And so, by classification, are charters - they receive government funding just like magnet schools do.

A court cannot strike down TJ's merit lottery system without creating MAJOR problems for school choice across the country.
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