US Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action in College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:America, F* yeah! Finally asians receive equal treatment under the law, not just "URM"

In synopsis I glanced, the Court summarized affirmative action is stereotypical, something to that effect, assuming all race thinks alike, are similar, etc. I guess affirmative action assumes certain people are just naturally challenged intellectually. This is a great day for URM, as they will no longer be assumed to be inferior. Those who make it will be presumed to be qualified. Finally, URMs will receive equal treatment under the law. It's a great day in America when all people, whites, brown, and blacks are judged by the content of their character.

Well said

If you're into colorblind crap that tries to pretend like systemic racism doesn't still exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If grades and scores are equal, give POC people a chance at the same opportunities as other counterparts.

Scores? As in standardized test scores?

The SAT/ACT are pretty much irrelevant going forward.

Look for the permanent test optional announcements from most of the T25 before the 2024-2025 admissions cycle.

Most are already TO for this fall.

And...no school of significance followed MIT.

MIT tends to follow what’s best for students, they didn’t jump in the TO bandwagon because they realized test scores in conjunction with other metrics are a better predictor of success at MIT. It’s one of the few top school that don’t give preference to legacy students. Kudos to them.

I agree with the Supreme Court decision. It’s fine to consider race, but in context, no box checking, no shameful personality scores.

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Some people are realy furious by the decision, they had to summon MLK.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

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Some people are realy furious by the decision, they had to summon MLK.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
MLK's dream is exactly the opposite of the current practice of affirmative action and what liberals are pursuing.

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Some people are realy furious by the decision, they had to summon MLK.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
MLK's dream is exactly the opposite of the current practice of affirmative action and what liberals are pursuing.

No question liberals are the true racists.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

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Anonymous wrote:It a great day for Asian families for sure.

. I don't see any change in outcomes for Asian families next year. One year from now, the same kids who didn't get into ivies will be denied. Not much will change...

Right. The many many posters who blamed their kid’s rejection on some AA kid out there will have to face the cruel reality that their kid just did not make the cut.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

+1

I have never seen one group so proud to have everyone against them, at once. Wow.

They don't teach common sense at the tutors?

It is the conservative rich whites behind this law suit. Racism that is part of DNA never leaves the race.

You make no sense. Oh, and you sound insane.

I don’t blame you if you can’t understand. Nor do I blame the university where you were educated at. You are on the left portion of the bell curve.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

+1
If anyone owes anything to black people, it's the white people. Now they scapegoated that blame to Asians, who did nothing bad to blacks, while they reap the benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

+1
If anyone owes anything to black people, it's the white people. Now they scapegoated that blame to Asians, who did nothing bad to blacks, while they reap the benefits.

No, despite historical injustices white people don’t owe anything to black people. That true for any race owing anything to other race. But as a society we need to find way to promote the greater good. Affirmative action tried to do that, but failed. We need to find a better approach and banning affirmative action is good because now we can focus on other ways to support the disadvantaged.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

+1
If anyone owes anything to black people, it's the white people. Now they scapegoated that blame to Asians, who did nothing bad to blacks, while they reap the benefits.

Ok, let’s all move back to our countries of origin and start over, including whites. This is a sh!tshow.

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

+1
If anyone owes anything to black people, it's the white people. Now they scapegoated that blame to Asians, who did nothing bad to blacks, while they reap the benefits.

The exchange you’re commenting wasn’t about PP “owing” anyone anything FFS.

And black people are not in charge of Harvard. You’re the one scapegoating blacks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If grades and scores are equal, give POC people a chance at the same opportunities as other counterparts.

Scores? As in standardized test scores?

The SAT/ACT are pretty much irrelevant going forward.

Look for the permanent test optional announcements from most of the T25 before the 2024-2025 admissions cycle.

Most are already TO for this fall.

And...no school of significance followed MIT.

MIT tends to follow what’s best for students, they didn’t jump in the TO bandwagon because they realized test scores in conjunction with other metrics are a better predictor of success at MIT. It’s one of the few top school that don’t give preference to legacy students. Kudos to them.

I agree with the Supreme Court decision. It’s fine to consider race, but in context, no box checking, no shameful personality scores.

HYPS are better and serve as more of a bellwether.

Thousands of colleges TO > MIT

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Anonymous wrote:The funny part is that these Asian immigrants would not be here had it not been for the people like MLK who took a bullet for everyone. Some Asians don't like to discuss this because it reminds them that they are viewed as not white.
Maybe the civil rights leaders should have only focused on what would be best for African Americans and Native Americans. Forget immigrants, including those from Africa.

Didn't know Asians started to immigrate to the US because of MLK. I know you guys are bad at math and science and didn't know you're so bad at history too. So what are you good at?

Black person here to say eff you:

“The Civil Rights Movement that culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ushered in a new age when we could envision the color of one’s skin may be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. It also led to the overhaul of our immigration system, dismantling the preferences favoring those from the Western hemisphere by offering equal opportunity to everyone to immigrate to the United States without discrimination based on one’s national origin under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.”

-On remembering the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King

https://www.houstonimmigration.org/on-remembering-the-legacy-of-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/#:~:text=It%20also%20led%20to%20the,and%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201965.

This is 21st century. We live in the age of AI and Quantum Computing.
Nobody owe anyone anything in this country, espcially Asians.
The kind of vitim mentality and 'somebody owe me something' mentality is not good for anything.

Well that’s an interesting way of admitting that you were completely wrong about what African American civil rights leaders did for immigrants from Asia

I'm DP.
Even most homogeous closed countries like Korea now accepting immigrants.
Big deal.

Now versus 1965 is a big damn deal to the immigrants it helped. The virtuous thing in this situation would be to graciously admit you were wrong. And maybe apologize for the rude jab at blacks being bad at math, science, and history. Maybe your crappy reaction here is evidence of why your own personality scores were so low.

I said I'm DP.

My Asian kids were born in the 21st cetruy in the US.
They don't owe you or anyone anything, and have the right not to be discriminated.

Your post was obnoxious. Guess what, I actually like the Supreme Court’s decision. I don’t like your shitty attitude minimizing what black people fought for in the civil rights movement that ALL AMERICANS, your kids included, should be grateful for.

Gratefull yes, cerebarate MLK day yes, respect yes.
They don't owe anyone anythingn though.

+1
If anyone owes anything to black people, it's the white people. Now they scapegoated that blame to Asians, who did nothing bad to blacks, while they reap the benefits.

No, despite historical injustices white people don’t owe anything to black people. That true for any race owing anything to other race. But as a society we need to find way to promote the greater good. Affirmative action tried to do that, but failed. We need to find a better approach and banning affirmative action is good because now we can focus on other ways to support the disadvantaged.

Nobody owes anybody. It's all good then. Why blame Asians on the Supreme Court decision then? I see a bunch of cowards.