Looks like a new Gaza war has started

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

It’s as credible as the 40 beheaded babies. And it is becoming increasingly evident that this is a joint operation with the US, down to the PR.

Do you believe 40 babies were murdered?

[Anonymous]

Israel bombing NICU babies before they die of dehydration. Thanks, Israel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

I have seen ample evidence that this rocket came from Gaza. I have zero evidence that it came from Israel.

You have seen Israeli manufactured lies as already debunked by many credible news sources.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/misinformation-gaza-hospital-attack-1234856302/amp/

[Anonymous]

Israel caught lying again. Keep deleting videos.

https://www.newsweek.com/deleted-israeli-video-adds-confusion-around-gaza-hospital-blast-1835596

[Anonymous]

Lebanon will be dragged into this. Hamas leader in Lebanon rallying support in Beirut (see media).

And China’s big summit this week with Putin and dozens of other countries discussing a new world order is next-level troubling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

Mainstream media circulated new videos of Hamas saying their own rockets failed and hit the hospital.

So, for the sake of argument, let's just say that 100% verifiable proof that Hamas did this hospital attack for whatever reason (cynically, accidentally, whatever...) emerges. If SO, What then?

How would the people on this board condemning Israel for the attack respond?
How would the Palestinians on the ground in Gaza and the West Bank respond?
How would all the leaders of neighboring countries canceling meetings with Biden respond?

Sadly, we live in a tribal, polarized world. More directly: facts and reason don’t matter. Everyone is staunchly on their side.

There is no way to stop the violence when both sides hate each other in the name of religion and ethnicity.

PS - One side hates America and nonbelievers. Interestingly, they’ve immigrated to the west in droves and enjoy living with us…for now.

I'd love to hear there answer to this. If someone who condemned Israel is simply incapable of condemning Hamas if they were responsible for this attack and working towards Hamas' overthrow, I'm not sure there is any point to conversing about it no matter who was responsible. You can't converse with blind fanaticism.

[Anonymous]

NYC ramping up police presence per GMA. Police told to prepare for 12 hour shifts.

Increasing patrols in Jewish and Muslim communities.

ICYMI: the peaceful march the other day of thousands of Catholics marching for peace for both Israel and Gaza was lovely.

[Anonymous]

Exposing Israel's lies about the timing of the rocket attack.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1714364190985458105?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1714364190985458105%7Ctwgr%5E2f9c73c366c2afe9ba2d4b4ccc36eff38f427162%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fdeleted-israeli-video-adds-confusion-around-gaza-hospital-blast-1835596

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

I have seen ample evidence that this rocket came from Gaza. I have zero evidence that it came from Israel.

You have seen Israeli manufactured lies as already debunked by many credible news sources.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/misinformation-gaza-hospital-attack-1234856302/amp/

I just read the article you posted and his nothing to do with the evidence that Israel has. It talks about videos that have been posted on social media that are videos of earlier events. Israel has not posted those videos. They have current video showing a failed Islamic Jihad rocket. They don’t need to rely on old videos when they have current and actual footage. They also have intercepted conversations of the terrorists discussing the failed launch hitting the hospital. You obviously hate Israel and will never believe this was not caused by Israel even though it’s the truth. It is beyond me how you could believe an Iranian backed terror organization’s claims. But to each his own, I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

There is evidence. Intercepted phone calls between Hamas and ILJ admitting it wasn’t Israel. There is no crater which would evidence something coming from Israel. There is video of the failed ILJ rocket. Haters of Israel won’t believe the evidence, but there is evidence.

Israel admitted they bombed the hospital.

We've seen for 30 pages that you believe Israel committed the bombing and how you feel about it. We get it. If[i] it turns out it was a Hamas rocket misfire, how would you respond? Surprise us by answering an actual question.

It turns out the murderer is pleading innocence. As anyone who has ever visited a jail will tell you, all the murderers say they are innocent.

So IF Hamas did this, you would ignore it. Thank you for answering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

I have seen ample evidence that this rocket came from Gaza. I have zero evidence that it came from Israel.

You have seen Israeli manufactured lies as already debunked by many credible news sources.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/misinformation-gaza-hospital-attack-1234856302/amp/

Rolling Stone has not debunked anything. This is laughable that you believe this article debunks Israel’s evidence. This article has nothing to do with Israel’s evidence. Go back and reread it.

[Anonymous]

Lol Israel can’t keep up with their barrage of lies. Posting videos on their official accounts, then deleting them because journalists are questioning their veracity. Biden has no choice but to support Israel because the Arab leaders had the courage to cancel their meeting with him. How embarrassing for the U.S. president to be told we are no
longer interested in meeting with you.

Also all these posters talking about evidence, please post a link to your evidence and not the Al Jazeera video which shows nothing but a loud blast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol Israel can’t keep up with their barrage of lies. Posting videos on their official accounts, then deleting them because journalists are questioning their veracity. Biden has no choice but to support Israel because the Arab leaders had the courage to cancel their meeting with him. How embarrassing for the U.S. president to be told we are no
longer interested in meeting with you.

Also all these posters talking about evidence, please post a link to your evidence and not the Al Jazeera video which shows nothing but a loud blast.

It will come out in the mainstream news media. Don’t you worry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We’ve been showing videos from last night and images of the aftermath taken this morning to weapons experts to try to verify what happened.

While there is no overall consensus, one said the fact that hospital buildings have not collapsed, some cars are undamaged and there is no visible deep crater suggests that this was not consistent with an Israeli air strike.

We have also showed a video with the apparent sound of the impact to these experts - one said he couldn’t tell whether this was an Israeli strike or a rocket fired from inside Gaza.

Where did you get this info?

I’d like to know how a small rocket killed 500 people. That is not believable to me, but the experts will eventually be able to tell us.

Well, Biden has seen the evidence and says it was NOT Israel.

And, the number killed is from Hamas. Has any independent source confirmed it?

And, let's remember - Hamas stores munitions in hospitals and other civilian sites. So, if a rocket hit the hospital, it could cause the rockets being stored there to explode.

LOL. There is no evidence, it’s spin. Biden co-singed and co-owns this massacre, what do you expect him to say publicly?

I have seen ample evidence that this rocket came from Gaza. I have zero evidence that it came from Israel.

You have seen Israeli manufactured lies as already debunked by many credible news sources.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/misinformation-gaza-hospital-attack-1234856302/amp/

Rolling Stone has not debunked anything. This is laughable that you believe this article debunks Israel’s evidence. This article has nothing to do with Israel’s evidence. Go back and reread it.

That article is clearly saying how multiple videos posted online showing it was a misfired tickets were videos from 2022 or prior to that and the ones posted on Israeli officials media accounts had the wrong time stamp. So yes the article clearly refutes all the “video evidence” that was initially posted because none of them actually show what happened. You know what did happen? Israeli official tweeted about the bombing proudly saying they bombed Hamas in the hospital but then deleted the tweet. Why would someone take responsibility for such a heinous act and then tweet about it from an official account?

[Anonymous]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-says-islamic-jihad-rocket-misfire-caused-gaza-hospital-blast/

Here is an article explains that the blast on the hospital happened in the parking lot of the hospital.