Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These people are so weird. You suffer a hugely embarrassing public incident and a few months later you go back the socials like nothing really happened? I think most people would sort of bow out if the socials forever. At least for a few years. Not months. That’s weird, right?

The social media controls them, they don't control it.

I honestly feel bad for Jen. Her star rose until it didn't. Her kids aren't close to her. She's locked in a lifestyle with no way out.

I mean…she could always…get a 9-5 job like most people and fly under the radar…would t that be a way out?

It's much harder to get a 9-5 than it used to be. Especially at her age.

[Anonymous]

hope all of her praying fans are praying for her daughter’s safety as Sidney travels all over the world. The US state department issued an international travel advisory this week warning LGBTQ+ Americans to be cautious in other countries during the month of June.

Hatmaker-adjacent: Sarah Goodfellow's oldest daughter, Riley, has some severe anxiety issues and identifies as they/them. She spent a semester in college in Spain and almost had a nervous breakdown (no exaggeration) because the professors wouldn't use her preferred pronouns and she felt called out and harassed on the streets because of her sexual identity. She is fluent in Spanish, due to her time in Peru with her family for their nonprofit/missionary work with Krochet Kids, and was able to articulate well why she chose to identify as such to her teachers. I was struck by her sad inability to see that the rest of the world is not the US, and that other cultures don't necessarily agree with or accommodate your beliefs/worldview.

The street harassment is something all females unfortunately have to deal with. I lived abroad and you take lots of precautions to stay safe. I hope Sydney just keeps her eyes open and is a good tourist and gets a lot of great photos and stays safe.

[Anonymous]

Just saw on Jamie’s instagram that’s she’s stepping away from social media again.

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7R3j2UgRtA/?igsh=d2M5d3hkdjEzM3dq

[Anonymous]

https://julieroys.com/alleged-victim-worship-pastor-aaron-ivey-speaks-out-megachurchs-prior-statement/

[Anonymous]

Initially, people thought Austin Stone handled this well. Now I’m not so sure. Arguing that “outside our regular programming” doesn’t include the son of an elder is the bull-shittiest thing ever. Doesn’t seem like any further action or third party investigation is happening yet.

[Anonymous]

I feel so bad for Jamie Ivey. She thought she had all the truth of the situation, and she didn't. It sucks to feel blindsided and have the truth trickle out. Aaron clearly didn't tell her everything or she wouldn't be shell shocked all over again this week and stepping away from social media for a lengthy period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

hope all of her praying fans are praying for her daughter’s safety as Sidney travels all over the world. The US state department issued an international travel advisory this week warning LGBTQ+ Americans to be cautious in other countries during the month of June.

Hatmaker-adjacent: Sarah Goodfellow's oldest daughter, Riley, has some severe anxiety issues and identifies as they/them. She spent a semester in college in Spain and almost had a nervous breakdown (no exaggeration) because the professors wouldn't use her preferred pronouns and she felt called out and harassed on the streets because of her sexual identity. She is fluent in Spanish, due to her time in Peru with her family for their nonprofit/missionary work with Krochet Kids, and was able to articulate well why she chose to identify as such to her teachers. I was struck by her sad inability to see that the rest of the world is not the US, and that other cultures don't necessarily agree with or accommodate your beliefs/worldview.

The street harassment is something all females unfortunately have to deal with. I lived abroad and you take lots of precautions to stay safe. I hope Sydney just keeps her eyes open and is a good tourist and gets a lot of great photos and stays safe.

It’s pretty shitty to tell the story of a kid only slightly related to this thread — specifically call out that they use they/them pronouns and then repeatedly NOT use them in your story.

Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These people are so weird. You suffer a hugely embarrassing public incident and a few months later you go back the socials like nothing really happened? I think most people would sort of bow out if the socials forever. At least for a few years. Not months. That’s weird, right?

The social media controls them, they don't control it.

I honestly feel bad for Jen. Her star rose until it didn't. Her kids aren't close to her. She's locked in a lifestyle with no way out.

I mean…she could always…get a 9-5 job like most people and fly under the radar…would t that be a way out?

It's much harder to get a 9-5 than it used to be. Especially at her age.

At her age?! She so 49, not 99! She could find a 9-5 job if she wanted to, but it would involve working for someone else and not being in the spotlight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

hope all of her praying fans are praying for her daughter’s safety as Sidney travels all over the world. The US state department issued an international travel advisory this week warning LGBTQ+ Americans to be cautious in other countries during the month of June.

Hatmaker-adjacent: Sarah Goodfellow's oldest daughter, Riley, has some severe anxiety issues and identifies as they/them. She spent a semester in college in Spain and almost had a nervous breakdown (no exaggeration) because the professors wouldn't use her preferred pronouns and she felt called out and harassed on the streets because of her sexual identity. She is fluent in Spanish, due to her time in Peru with her family for their nonprofit/missionary work with Krochet Kids, and was able to articulate well why she chose to identify as such to her teachers. I was struck by her sad inability to see that the rest of the world is not the US, and that other cultures don't necessarily agree with or accommodate your beliefs/worldview.

The street harassment is something all females unfortunately have to deal with. I lived abroad and you take lots of precautions to stay safe. I hope Sydney just keeps her eyes open and is a good tourist and gets a lot of great photos and stays safe.

It’s pretty shitty to tell the story of a kid only slightly related to this thread — specifically call out that they use they/them pronouns and then repeatedly NOT use them in your story.

Do better.

If you feel you need to address people by their preferred pronouns, that's your choice, but don't come on here and try to bully others into entertaining an ideology they don't believe in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

hope all of her praying fans are praying for her daughter’s safety as Sidney travels all over the world. The US state department issued an international travel advisory this week warning LGBTQ+ Americans to be cautious in other countries during the month of June.

Hatmaker-adjacent: Sarah Goodfellow's oldest daughter, Riley, has some severe anxiety issues and identifies as they/them. She spent a semester in college in Spain and almost had a nervous breakdown (no exaggeration) because the professors wouldn't use her preferred pronouns and she felt called out and harassed on the streets because of her sexual identity. She is fluent in Spanish, due to her time in Peru with her family for their nonprofit/missionary work with Krochet Kids, and was able to articulate well why she chose to identify as such to her teachers. I was struck by her sad inability to see that the rest of the world is not the US, and that other cultures don't necessarily agree with or accommodate your beliefs/worldview.

The street harassment is something all females unfortunately have to deal with. I lived abroad and you take lots of precautions to stay safe. I hope Sydney just keeps her eyes open and is a good tourist and gets a lot of great photos and stays safe.

Who the heck is Sarah Goodfellow?? I Googled her and found nothing. I looked on Instagram and see a regular looking mom with a couple thousand followers whose profile is set to private.
That's so irrelevant.
Let's stick to Jen Hatmaker, Jamie Ivey, and people we've at least heard of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

hope all of her praying fans are praying for her daughter’s safety as Sidney travels all over the world. The US state department issued an international travel advisory this week warning LGBTQ+ Americans to be cautious in other countries during the month of June.

Hatmaker-adjacent: Sarah Goodfellow's oldest daughter, Riley, has some severe anxiety issues and identifies as they/them. She spent a semester in college in Spain and almost had a nervous breakdown (no exaggeration) because the professors wouldn't use her preferred pronouns and she felt called out and harassed on the streets because of her sexual identity. She is fluent in Spanish, due to her time in Peru with her family for their nonprofit/missionary work with Krochet Kids, and was able to articulate well why she chose to identify as such to her teachers. I was struck by her sad inability to see that the rest of the world is not the US, and that other cultures don't necessarily agree with or accommodate your beliefs/worldview.

The street harassment is something all females unfortunately have to deal with. I lived abroad and you take lots of precautions to stay safe. I hope Sydney just keeps her eyes open and is a good tourist and gets a lot of great photos and stays safe.

It’s pretty shitty to tell the story of a kid only slightly related to this thread — specifically call out that they use they/them pronouns and then repeatedly NOT use them in your story.

Do better.

If you feel you need to address people by their preferred pronouns, that's your choice, but don't come on here and try to bully others into entertaining an ideology they don't believe in.

BOOM. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
So glad someone said this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel so bad for Jamie Ivey. She thought she had all the truth of the situation, and she didn't. It sucks to feel blindsided and have the truth trickle out. Aaron clearly didn't tell her everything or she wouldn't be shell shocked all over again this week and stepping away from social media for a lengthy period.

This. She either downplayed it initially thinking those details wouldn’t be made public, or she didn’t know. What kind of husband and church leadership would be letting her find out in real time with the rest of the public?

Jen went the opposite route and made things sound drastically worse in her marital-explosion initially. As their details trickled out, it was still sad and devastating, but also a common pattern of mid-life-crisis behaviors involving alcohol and an affair. Plenty of healthy marriages have been able to survive and thrive after the same. The issue that rocked everyone with the Hatmakers wasn’t that sin happened. Sin happens. It was learning that they had no foundation underneath when the bricks crumbled. They faked having a foundation of Christ for a long time, but were revealed to be leaning on the world for truth and themselves for strength. It’s not too late for them to turn their gaze from the world and their own reflection back toward Jesus. We all have to do the same thing sometimes along this journey.

Now here’s hoping Jamie isn’t the next in line to be deconstructing her faith entirely.

[Anonymous]

The Hatmakers were social climber grifters partnered not for any gospel but for themselves. Brandon sort of knew it and he has a conscious so he self destructed, not to take any blame away from his actions or damage at all. When the Hatmaker marriage imploded there wasn’t any foundation there beyond keeping the grift going. Brandon couldn’t do it anymore and he needed, and wanted, off the treadmill. Jen is the least self aware person in the world annd is a bit of ann idiot so obviously she was blindsided.

[Anonymous]

Jamie Iveys playbook is locked and loaded. She’s going to predictably deconstruct, shift in all her positions and values, blame the patriarchy for her husbands behavior etcetera. If she doesn’t do this I’ll be honestly super surprised. I’m at the point where any “Christian” pop celebrity author from the past 20 years was a fraud all along. Sorry not sorry. Wolves in sheep’s clothing, all of them.

[Anonymous]

Who the heck is Sarah Goodfellow?? I Googled her and found nothing. I looked on Instagram and see a regular looking mom with a couple thousand followers whose profile is set to private.
That's so irrelevant.
Let's stick to Jen Hatmaker, Jamie Ivey, and people we've at least heard of

Sarah is in that group of internet besties that Howerton cobbled together, along with Bessey, Jen, Tara, and Jamie. She is the granddaughter of Gerald Ford. She married young, started her family, and had a similar discomfort with raising Christian kids in the uber-affluence of North America. She and her husband sold everything and moved their four young kids to a poor area of Lima (Pacifica)to manage a branch of Krochet Kids as a way to bring employment to the community. I found her via her blog, But Now to Live the Life, which is archived and found in bits across the internet. This was all concurrent with Jen's "Interrupted" period. Sarah blogged pretty regularly and candidly about the challenges and gifts of life as an expat in Peru. Her kids went to local schools, and that was a challenging and interesting endeavor for them on so many levels. It was a fascinating glimpse into a life few people take on willingly. I was so inspired by her actions. She even had Dooce and Jamie Wright visit her, along with Howerton, but it was criticized by many as "povvo tourism" (oh the nomenclature of the mid 2000s message boards).

Riley, as the oldest daughter, bore the brunt of the challenges of the move, and had to deal with the prejudice of being a white, affluent kid in a South American school. But she eventually thrived. Now, she is trying to find her way as a young adult, and it's a tough road.
I brought the Goodfellows up on this thread because of Jen's friendship with them and also their parallel paths in life, trying to serve the poor and marginalized. Also, I am interested to see how the kids of these mom blogger/influencers fare, as I think that atmosphere is so toxic to families.