The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this theory on another message board but do we think if Trump loses the election, he will resign so Pence can pardon him?

Pardon him for what?

Tax fraud, money laundering, all the other federal crimes he committed.

When was he charged?

You don't have to have been charged to be pardoned.

See: Ford pardons Nixon

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-pardons-nixon

Pence can't pardon him for any state crimes, though.

It's always been on the shoulders of New York state. He just can't pardon (or get pardoned) around that.

And the federal pardon requires him to admit guilt. Which NYS can use in his trial. He’s facing a catch-22.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a small business owner. Own multiple small businesses and several real estate investments. high 6 to 7 figure/annum income depending on the year. DESPISE TRUMP and am disgusted he is president. But there is nothing here. I haven't paid much tax for decades but I do pay our CPA a nice chunk of change to legally and cleanly make most of my taxes disappear. I believe most entrepreneurs, business owners and real estate investors end up paying minimal income tax. I know lot of folks earning millions a year paying less in tax than our school bus driver. Why blame trump for doing the same?

I'm just so worried that all this desperation by Dems and mainstream media to bring him down is going to blow up in our faces.

For every real estate slimeball that skirts taxes, there are 500 bus drivers who pay a lot more than $750 per year.

Guess who has more votes?

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There has to be an ethical line that pence will not cross, right?

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be an ethical line that pence will not cross, right?

Wrong. That’s the man who wanted to force women to have funerals for miscarriages. There’s something not right about him.

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be an ethical line that pence will not cross, right?

He’s all in. Irredeemable. His kids are angling to get into politics/business.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a small business owner. Own multiple small businesses and several real estate investments. high 6 to 7 figure/annum income depending on the year. DESPISE TRUMP and am disgusted he is president. But there is nothing here. I haven't paid much tax for decades but I do pay our CPA a nice chunk of change to legally and cleanly make most of my taxes disappear. I believe most entrepreneurs, business owners and real estate investors end up paying minimal income tax. I know lot of folks earning millions a year paying less in tax than our school bus driver. Why blame trump for doing the same?

I'm just so worried that all this desperation by Dems and mainstream media to bring him down is going to blow up in our faces.

For every real estate slimeball that skirts taxes, there are 500 bus drivers who pay a lot more than $750 per year.

Guess who has more votes?

We blame 45 b/c he ran on "America First". He chides undocumented workers and immigrants for "stealing jobs" when he is cheating the system. If you can't say that than you are just as callous and slimy.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this theory on another message board but do we think if Trump loses the election, he will resign so Pence can pardon him?

Pardon him for what?

Tax fraud, money laundering, all the other federal crimes he committed.

When was he charged?

You don't have to have been charged to be pardoned.

See: Ford pardons Nixon

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-pardons-nixon

Pence can't pardon him for any state crimes, though.

It's always been on the shoulders of New York state. He just can't pardon (or get pardoned) around that.

And the federal pardon requires him to admit guilt. Which NYS can use in his trial. He’s facing a catch-22.

It is a neat and tidy puzzle. Zippers together the possibility of federal pardon with the acknowledgment of culpability at state level.

It's actually kind of bizarre that it is still possible for him to be re-elected. (Don't be complacent. GOTV. Crawl over broken glass if you have to, as they say.) I can't think of any possiblility that all of this could come out about a politician in any prior decades, and not have 1/1000th of it tank them. But, here we are.

It is a lovely little fingertrap though, isn't it? Pull harder, and it just tightens. Lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be an ethical line that pence will not cross, right?

He’s all in. Irredeemable. His kids are angling to get into politics/business.

Pence may be worse b/c he can actually look the part.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this theory on another message board but do we think if Trump loses the election, he will resign so Pence can pardon him?

Pardon him for what?

Tax fraud, money laundering, all the other federal crimes he committed.

When was he charged?

What are you talking about?

I believe the PP is asking you when Trump was indicted for all these crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this theory on another message board but do we think if Trump loses the election, he will resign so Pence can pardon him?

Pardon him for what?

Tax fraud, money laundering, all the other federal crimes he committed.

When was he charged?

You don't have to have been charged to be pardoned.

See: Ford pardons Nixon

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-pardons-nixon

Pence can't pardon him for any state crimes, though.

It's always been on the shoulders of New York state. He just can't pardon (or get pardoned) around that.

And the federal pardon requires him to admit guilt. Which NYS can use in his trial. He’s facing a catch-22.

It is a neat and tidy puzzle. Zippers together the possibility of federal pardon with the acknowledgment of culpability at state level.

It's actually kind of bizarre that it is still possible for him to be re-elected. (Don't be complacent. GOTV. Crawl over broken glass if you have to, as they say.) I can't think of any possiblility that all of this could come out about a politician in any prior decades, and not have 1/1000th of it tank them. But, here we are.

It is a lovely little fingertrap though, isn't it? Pull harder, and it just tightens. Lovely.

Excellent analogy.

But this is why I think Trump is crazy dangerous and will need to be dragged out of the WH by Federal Marshalls or the military. He can never leave office, because he knows the handcuffs await him and his family whether it’s the Feds or NY state.

He will turn to violence before he ever considers stepping down. Republicans know this too and are just hoping they don’t get the pointy end of Trump’s Night of the Long Knives. Democrat leaders and elected officials need to have a plan for their safety.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this theory on another message board but do we think if Trump loses the election, he will resign so Pence can pardon him?

Pardon him for what?

Tax fraud, money laundering, all the other federal crimes he committed.

When was he charged?

What are you talking about?

I believe the PP is asking you when Trump was indicted for all these crimes.

Well people need to stop asking dumb questions. DoJ affirmed that a President is immune from charges while in office.

Why do you think Trump is promising to not respect the results of the election?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a small business owner. Own multiple small businesses and several real estate investments. high 6 to 7 figure/annum income depending on the year. DESPISE TRUMP and am disgusted he is president. But there is nothing here. I haven't paid much tax for decades but I do pay our CPA a nice chunk of change to legally and cleanly make most of my taxes disappear. I believe most entrepreneurs, business owners and real estate investors end up paying minimal income tax. I know lot of folks earning millions a year paying less in tax than our school bus driver. Why blame trump for doing the same?

I'm just so worried that all this desperation by Dems and mainstream media to bring him down is going to blow up in our faces.

Is the IRS coming after you for $73 million plus interest and penalties? We’ll that’s what it claims Trump owes. Sure seems like something to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a small business owner. Own multiple small businesses and several real estate investments. high 6 to 7 figure/annum income depending on the year. DESPISE TRUMP and am disgusted he is president. But there is nothing here. I haven't paid much tax for decades but I do pay our CPA a nice chunk of change to legally and cleanly make most of my taxes disappear. I believe most entrepreneurs, business owners and real estate investors end up paying minimal income tax. I know lot of folks earning millions a year paying less in tax than our school bus driver. Why blame trump for doing the same?

I'm just so worried that all this desperation by Dems and mainstream media to bring him down is going to blow up in our faces.

But if you, legit, use all your tricks to make your tax disappear, don't you get audited?

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be an ethical line that pence will not cross, right?

He’s all in. Irredeemable. His kids are angling to get into politics/business.

Pence may be worse b/c he can actually look the part.

I think for Pence it's an acceptable deal to get Roe overturned.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a small business owner. Own multiple small businesses and several real estate investments. high 6 to 7 figure/annum income depending on the year. DESPISE TRUMP and am disgusted he is president. But there is nothing here. I haven't paid much tax for decades but I do pay our CPA a nice chunk of change to legally and cleanly make most of my taxes disappear. I believe most entrepreneurs, business owners and real estate investors end up paying minimal income tax. I know lot of folks earning millions a year paying less in tax than our school bus driver. Why blame trump for doing the same?

I'm just so worried that all this desperation by Dems and mainstream media to bring him down is going to blow up in our faces.

Hey PP - I'm also a small biz owner with several real estate investments, high 6 to 7 figure/annum income and I think you are a scum bag.

It's people like you that make all of us respectable biz owners look bad. I pay self-employment taxes, payroll taxes, property taxes, etc. I pay them because I want a strong military, EMT, fire-fighters, good schools, good roads, good infrastructure in my community. It's people like you that do not pay your fare share of taxes that bring communities down.

I'd hate to be on of your employees. You probably don't care about them at all. Doubt you help with their healthcare too.