6-Year-Old Girl in Washington DC Is Fatally Shot While Riding Scooter

[Anonymous]

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Doxing? He was arrested for the murder a 6 year old girl.
Posts and comments spanning 2011 through 2018 depict piles of cash, bags and plumes of drugs, and a gun (2014).

Holy. Effing. Hell. ^^^^^

DC residents, here is the one and only good thing that can come of this: look through his FB photos ^^ before they're taken down. Now ... contact your councilmembers (unless they're Brianne Nadeau or Charles Allen, in which case, don't bother) and demand that the system for vetting the paraprofessional adults who take care of your DCPS kids in aftercare, playground, etc.

+1 million

Make your voices heard.

Yes, can't believe he was employed by Janney aftercare!!

Well, Janney parents haven't come on here to confirm or deny that; who knows how long ago or for how long.
He was booked in June 2020 in MD for armed car-jacking and posted bond the same day. That's the booking photo on all of today's news things.
In September 2020, he was working construction (see September 15 2020 post on that builder's FB page) https://www.facebook.com/kirlinbuilds

It's on his Linked In page but, yeah, maybe not for long.

I don't live in DC. I am curious about something.....

Does DC have a rule that employers are not able to ask if someone has been convicted or charged with a felony on the employment application?

He would have had to clear a background check. There doesn't need to be a rule about asking, applicants are required to pass a criminal background check which covers everything. Either he didn't have a record when employed by Janney or they didn't run a check (unlikely.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Doxing? He was arrested for the murder a 6 year old girl.
Posts and comments spanning 2011 through 2018 depict piles of cash, bags and plumes of drugs, and a gun (2014).

Holy. Effing. Hell. ^^^^^

DC residents, here is the one and only good thing that can come of this: look through his FB photos ^^ before they're taken down. Now ... contact your councilmembers (unless they're Brianne Nadeau or Charles Allen, in which case, don't bother) and demand that the system for vetting the paraprofessional adults who take care of your DCPS kids in aftercare, playground, etc.

+1 million

Make your voices heard.

Yes, can't believe he was employed by Janney aftercare!!

Well, Janney parents haven't come on here to confirm or deny that; who knows how long ago or for how long.
He was booked in June 2020 in MD for armed car-jacking and posted bond the same day. That's the booking photo on all of today's news things.
In September 2020, he was working construction (see September 15 2020 post on that builder's FB page) https://www.facebook.com/kirlinbuilds

It's on his Linked In page but, yeah, maybe not for long.

I don't live in DC. I am curious about something.....

Does DC have a rule that employers are not able to ask if someone has been convicted or charged with a felony on the employment application?

He would have had to clear a background check. There doesn't need to be a rule about asking, applicants are required to pass a criminal background check which covers everything. Either he didn't have a record when employed by Janney or they didn't run a check (unlikely.)

His only charges are from last year, so he would have passed a criminal background check.

To answer PP's question, generally you can't ask (or look) before you make a conditional employment offer, but you can withdraw the conditional offer based on a legitimate business reason. This doesn't apply to people who work with minors (or vulnerable adults) though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Doxing? He was arrested for the murder a 6 year old girl.
Posts and comments spanning 2011 through 2018 depict piles of cash, bags and plumes of drugs, and a gun (2014).

Holy. Effing. Hell. ^^^^^

DC residents, here is the one and only good thing that can come of this: look through his FB photos ^^ before they're taken down. Now ... contact your councilmembers (unless they're Brianne Nadeau or Charles Allen, in which case, don't bother) and demand that the system for vetting the paraprofessional adults who take care of your DCPS kids in aftercare, playground, etc.

+1 million

Make your voices heard.

Yes, can't believe he was employed by Janney aftercare!!

Well, Janney parents haven't come on here to confirm or deny that; who knows how long ago or for how long.
He was booked in June 2020 in MD for armed car-jacking and posted bond the same day. That's the booking photo on all of today's news things.
In September 2020, he was working construction (see September 15 2020 post on that builder's FB page) https://www.facebook.com/kirlinbuilds

It's on his Linked In page but, yeah, maybe not for long.

You think the murderer's priority is going to be to update his Linked In page from lockup?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Doxing? He was arrested for the murder a 6 year old girl.
Posts and comments spanning 2011 through 2018 depict piles of cash, bags and plumes of drugs, and a gun (2014).

Holy. Effing. Hell. ^^^^^

DC residents, here is the one and only good thing that can come of this: look through his FB photos ^^ before they're taken down. Now ... contact your councilmembers (unless they're Brianne Nadeau or Charles Allen, in which case, don't bother) and demand that the system for vetting the paraprofessional adults who take care of your DCPS kids in aftercare, playground, etc.

+1 million

Make your voices heard.

Yes, can't believe he was employed by Janney aftercare!!

Well, Janney parents haven't come on here to confirm or deny that; who knows how long ago or for how long.
He was booked in June 2020 in MD for armed car-jacking and posted bond the same day. That's the booking photo on all of today's news things.
In September 2020, he was working construction (see September 15 2020 post on that builder's FB page) https://www.facebook.com/kirlinbuilds

It's on his Linked In page but, yeah, maybe not for long.

I don't live in DC. I am curious about something.....

Does DC have a rule that employers are not able to ask if someone has been convicted or charged with a felony on the employment application?

He would have had to clear a background check. There doesn't need to be a rule about asking, applicants are required to pass a criminal background check which covers everything. Either he didn't have a record when employed by Janney or they didn't run a check (unlikely.)

Sortof. DC is one of the jurisdictions that prohibits background checks before an offer of employment, but ALSO prohibits asking about (or using) arrest records. In most (MOST) cases, employers can only base "legitimate business" decisions on conviction records. Also, the DC Human Rights Commission is notoriously hard on employers and will hold employers responsible for "discrimination" whenever absurdly possible. So many DC employers are afraid to make decisions that could come close to the line for fear of a lawsuit and a finding against them.

In short, it is entirely possible that Janney/DCPS did a background check, knew of his behavior/arrests (if there were any), and hired him anyway (in compliance with the law).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WaPo article also states that the poor 6 year old victim’s own father is a drug dealer and in a gang, has been arrested and was already under investigation. The shooting is believed to be targeted because of him, the father, and that his gang had some sort of beef with the shooter.

So at the end of the day, this poor little girl had a drug dealing gang member for a father. She was shot because of that, not because she was riding a scooter at 11pm. Her own father’s activities. It’s terrible.

What a loser and now he’s responsible for his own child’s death. SMH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WaPo article also states that the poor 6 year old victim’s own father is a drug dealer and in a gang, has been arrested and was already under investigation. The shooting is believed to be targeted because of him, the father, and that his gang had some sort of beef with the shooter.

So at the end of the day, this poor little girl had a drug dealing gang member for a father. She was shot because of that, not because she was riding a scooter at 11pm. Her own father’s activities. It’s terrible.

What a loser and now he’s responsible for his own child’s death. SMH.

+1000. Disgusting.
These guys' neighbors (and parents and relatives) know what they're up to. Some Amish-style shunning might actually help.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to see the violence preventors lifting up the nerds, and quiet kids, and students and student athletes. Who is glorifying and protecting the kids trying to do right? Like Niayeh? Tired of seeing so much effort wasted on these fools. When they are their youth lockup, don't let them out until they meet wickets like counseling, GED and job training. Let them sit before a rlease board and demonstrate their effort, or they stay in until the last possible minute. While they are on the streets shun or make fun of them. What yokels. Killer yokels, but yokels nonetheless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to see the violence preventors lifting up the nerds, and quiet kids, and students and student athletes. Who is glorifying and protecting the kids trying to do right? Like Niayeh? Tired of seeing so much effort wasted on these fools. When they are their youth lockup, don't let them out until they meet wickets like counseling, GED and job training. Let them sit before a rlease board and demonstrate their effort, or they stay in until the last possible minute. While they are on the streets shun or make fun of them. What yokels. Killer yokels, but yokels nonetheless.

It is almost to change a culture the way you are proposing. Not sure if you are the same poster as the one talking about the Amish. It is a totally different way of life.

[Anonymous]

*almost impossible

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd like to see the violence preventors lifting up the nerds, and quiet kids, and students and student athletes. Who is glorifying and protecting the kids trying to do right? Like Niayeh? Tired of seeing so much effort wasted on these fools. When they are their youth lockup, don't let them out until they meet wickets like counseling, GED and job training. Let them sit before a rlease board and demonstrate their effort, or they stay in until the last possible minute. While they are on the streets shun or make fun of them. What yokels. Killer yokels, but yokels nonetheless.

It is almost to change a culture the way you are proposing. Not sure if you are the same poster as the one talking about the Amish. It is a totally different way of life.

Yeah, I am. I definitely would like to see a culture where the nerds and kids who get summer jobs are lifted up over thugs in terms of 'respect'. Maybe we have this violence disruptor thing all wrong - instead of wasting time beseeching the thug lives, they should be focused on building up respect for and protecting the kids who 'get it'? We need more people like recently deceased civil right leader Moses who founded the algebra project. Studies and hard work should be the role models kids see.

[Anonymous]

Sortof. DC is one of the jurisdictions that prohibits background checks before an offer of employment, but ALSO prohibits asking about (or using) arrest records. In most (MOST) cases, employers can only base "legitimate business" decisions on conviction records. Also, the DC Human Rights Commission is notoriously hard on employers and will hold employers responsible for "discrimination" whenever absurdly possible. So many DC employers are afraid to make decisions that could come close to the line for fear of a lawsuit and a finding against them.

In short, it is entirely possible that Janney/DCPS did a background check, knew of his behavior/arrests (if there were any), and hired him anyway (in compliance with the law).

AND, an employer can only withdraw an offer of employment if the convictions have relevance to the position for which you are being hired. So, e.g., you can revoke an offer of an after-care job if you find out the applicant is a pedophile, as that is reasonably related. You can revoke an offer to an applicant who was convicted of child abuse or endangerment. Then there are the gray areas . . . e.g., arguably you are not within your rights to revoke an offer if the applicant has been convicted of shoplifting (even though it is probably reasonable to think that someone light-fingered might try to rifle through teacher persons or swipe a child's cell phone), or has a conviction related to getting in a bar fight (even though that is evidence of aggressive behavior you probably don't want in childcare providers). Drug dealing? Probably legitimate to revoke offer if employment would be within a high school or middle school. Less so with respect to elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sortof. DC is one of the jurisdictions that prohibits background checks before an offer of employment, but ALSO prohibits asking about (or using) arrest records. In most (MOST) cases, employers can only base "legitimate business" decisions on conviction records. Also, the DC Human Rights Commission is notoriously hard on employers and will hold employers responsible for "discrimination" whenever absurdly possible. So many DC employers are afraid to make decisions that could come close to the line for fear of a lawsuit and a finding against them.

In short, it is entirely possible that Janney/DCPS did a background check, knew of his behavior/arrests (if there were any), and hired him anyway (in compliance with the law).

AND, an employer can only withdraw an offer of employment if the convictions have relevance to the position for which you are being hired. So, e.g., you can revoke an offer of an after-care job if you find out the applicant is a pedophile, as that is reasonably related. You can revoke an offer to an applicant who was convicted of child abuse or endangerment. Then there are the gray areas . . . e.g., arguably you are not within your rights to revoke an offer if the applicant has been convicted of shoplifting (even though it is probably reasonable to think that someone light-fingered might try to rifle through teacher persons or swipe a child's cell phone), or has a conviction related to getting in a bar fight (even though that is evidence of aggressive behavior you probably don't want in childcare providers). Drug dealing? Probably legitimate to revoke offer if employment would be within a high school or middle school. Less so with respect to elementary school.

I had no idea DC parents were dropping their kids off at aftercare centers that are forced to hire drug dealers. I guess I just don't get the draw to raise a family in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sortof. DC is one of the jurisdictions that prohibits background checks before an offer of employment, but ALSO prohibits asking about (or using) arrest records. In most (MOST) cases, employers can only base "legitimate business" decisions on conviction records. Also, the DC Human Rights Commission is notoriously hard on employers and will hold employers responsible for "discrimination" whenever absurdly possible. So many DC employers are afraid to make decisions that could come close to the line for fear of a lawsuit and a finding against them.

In short, it is entirely possible that Janney/DCPS did a background check, knew of his behavior/arrests (if there were any), and hired him anyway (in compliance with the law).

AND, an employer can only withdraw an offer of employment if the convictions have relevance to the position for which you are being hired. So, e.g., you can revoke an offer of an after-care job if you find out the applicant is a pedophile, as that is reasonably related. You can revoke an offer to an applicant who was convicted of child abuse or endangerment. Then there are the gray areas . . . e.g., arguably you are not within your rights to revoke an offer if the applicant has been convicted of shoplifting (even though it is probably reasonable to think that someone light-fingered might try to rifle through teacher persons or swipe a child's cell phone), or has a conviction related to getting in a bar fight (even though that is evidence of aggressive behavior you probably don't want in childcare providers). Drug dealing? Probably legitimate to revoke offer if employment would be within a high school or middle school. Less so with respect to elementary school.

Apparently, drug dealers can be the target of drive-bys. It seems like that would be a qualifying concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sortof. DC is one of the jurisdictions that prohibits background checks before an offer of employment, but ALSO prohibits asking about (or using) arrest records. In most (MOST) cases, employers can only base "legitimate business" decisions on conviction records. Also, the DC Human Rights Commission is notoriously hard on employers and will hold employers responsible for "discrimination" whenever absurdly possible. So many DC employers are afraid to make decisions that could come close to the line for fear of a lawsuit and a finding against them.

In short, it is entirely possible that Janney/DCPS did a background check, knew of his behavior/arrests (if there were any), and hired him anyway (in compliance with the law).

AND, an employer can only withdraw an offer of employment if the convictions have relevance to the position for which you are being hired. So, e.g., you can revoke an offer of an after-care job if you find out the applicant is a pedophile, as that is reasonably related. You can revoke an offer to an applicant who was convicted of child abuse or endangerment. Then there are the gray areas . . . e.g., arguably you are not within your rights to revoke an offer if the applicant has been convicted of shoplifting (even though it is probably reasonable to think that someone light-fingered might try to rifle through teacher persons or swipe a child's cell phone), or has a conviction related to getting in a bar fight (even though that is evidence of aggressive behavior you probably don't want in childcare providers). Drug dealing? Probably legitimate to revoke offer if employment would be within a high school or middle school. Less so with respect to elementary school.

I had no idea DC parents were dropping their kids off at aftercare centers that are forced to hire drug dealers. I guess I just don't get the draw to raise a family in DC.

This is insane to me. I want to believe it's not true because it quite literally sounds like an internet troll post. If this is really the law in DC, DC is screwed

[Anonymous]

It is not a troll post. It is how the law works and it is how DC residents have been screaming for the law to work for years.

We have been saying for years that it is not fair that one should be denied a job because of a pot conviction or a shoplifting conviction while a youth. So now we have made it so that a person cannot be denied that job...legally. And now we are complaining that they were not denied the job based on a background investigation?

What was supposed to disqualify them? The freezer bag of marijuana? Pot is legal in DC. The guns? I can't tell on the photos that the guns are illegal. So if I am Janey and doing a quick background investigation and social media lookup, what disqualified this individual? Even a pot conviction or previous carjacking has little to do with the job the young man is applying for.

We have been saying for a year now that young men of color are discriminated against when applying for jobs...and now you are surprised that he was hired with the set of rules we have created to deliberately allow him to be hired. I know he was hired prior to last year, but last years sentiments were not new. DC had been going this way for a long time.

You cannot have your cake and eat it to. The girls who killed the Uber eats driver at the waterfront. They will need jobs soon and they will get hired because no one will be able to hold their histories against them. Same with the MLK Crew banger, who decides to apply for a job. We as a city have decided and voted that he should be able to get a job without his background holding him up.

Look at your voting record. These initiatives were not close. This is who we are in DC.