Summer pool rules

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.


Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.


Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .


PP here. I am on a board that seems to have mixed interpretations. It shouldn’t be this confusing, but for some reason it is turning out to be. Short of a direct order saying “Pools don’t have to lower capacity and can lift distancing requirements”, I don’t know what else to look for.


There is a VRPS webinar on May 20th with Olivia McCormack which should repeat the same message. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=bZqwF-SVHk2F4xzg1N5_wZTwapCPIFlErLEdUvlbq5pUODU1UVBDSFlNR05WVDVPNExHWVZPQU5YRi4u&fbclid=IwAR3nNdx7WABu4l-chBIhAEzUgh-1hAOEF2Cat75CcuApcqCwosxBE3s58SM

Hopefully pools coming out and announcing their plans will help pressure recalcitrant board members to loosen up.


This is helpful, thank you. I participated in these last year.

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High Point Pool announced yesterday that it would be a typical summer with reservations for lap swimming only.
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Anonymous wrote:High Point Pool announced yesterday that it would be a typical summer with reservations for lap swimming only.


I saw that. At first it was more of a “If it comes true” type of message which was soon followed by the one you mention.
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Seems pretty straightforward to me. On May 28th:

https://youtu.be/FWVA2fdjtZU

“We will lift all of Virginia’s mitigation on capacity and distancing in businesses and public spaces”.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems pretty straightforward to me. On May 28th:

https://youtu.be/FWVA2fdjtZU

“We will lift all of Virginia’s mitigation on capacity and distancing in businesses and public spaces”.



So normal pool operation. And vaccinated should be allowed to go without masks. Outside.
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Any updates from any other VA swim clubs?
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Anonymous wrote:Any updates from any other VA swim clubs?


Just in the last couple of days, my Springfield area community pools have all announced they are opening with zero restrictions.
I don’t know any more from NVSL and the Swim Team reps yet.
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Any updates from various moco pools?
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Anonymous wrote:Any updates from any other VA swim clubs?


Just in the last couple of days, my Springfield area community pools have all announced they are opening with zero restrictions.
I don’t know any more from NVSL and the Swim Team reps yet.


We are in West Springfield. Our club is also opening without restrictions.

The team reps will know more after the NVSL board meets this Sunday.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.


Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.


Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .


PP here. I am on a board that seems to have mixed interpretations. It shouldn’t be this confusing, but for some reason it is turning out to be. Short of a direct order saying “Pools don’t have to lower capacity and can lift distancing requirements”, I don’t know what else to look for.


There is a VRPS webinar on May 20th with Olivia McCormack which should repeat the same message. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=bZqwF-SVHk2F4xzg1N5_wZTwapCPIFlErLEdUvlbq5pUODU1UVBDSFlNR05WVDVPNExHWVZPQU5YRi4u&fbclid=IwAR3nNdx7WABu4l-chBIhAEzUgh-1hAOEF2Cat75CcuApcqCwosxBE3s58SM

Hopefully pools coming out and announcing their plans will help pressure recalcitrant board members to loosen up.


Any clarification or update on state guidance from this webinar today?
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Anonymous wrote:Any updates from various moco pools?


We are members at Mohican.

They started the summer cautiously a few weeks back but have opened it up gradually. As of now, reservations are only on weekends (kinda like that anyway), no masks, swim team and lessons all going ahead, playground open.

Very happy with how the board have handled this summer so far. Hopefully we can get guests back in and the grills open later in the summer.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.


Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.


Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .


PP here. I am on a board that seems to have mixed interpretations. It shouldn’t be this confusing, but for some reason it is turning out to be. Short of a direct order saying “Pools don’t have to lower capacity and can lift distancing requirements”, I don’t know what else to look for.


There is a VRPS webinar on May 20th with Olivia McCormack which should repeat the same message. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=bZqwF-SVHk2F4xzg1N5_wZTwapCPIFlErLEdUvlbq5pUODU1UVBDSFlNR05WVDVPNExHWVZPQU5YRi4u&fbclid=IwAR3nNdx7WABu4l-chBIhAEzUgh-1hAOEF2Cat75CcuApcqCwosxBE3s58SM

Hopefully pools coming out and announcing their plans will help pressure recalcitrant board members to loosen up.


Any clarification or update on state guidance from this webinar today?


It's very clear, and was repeated on the webinar. After May 28th there are no COVID rules. No cleaning requirements, no social distancing, no occupancy limits, no COVID rules. (Obviously you still must comply with things like your bather load, your health dept permit.)
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


If you aren't vaccinated and that includes all kids under 11 years of age - those individuals should wear masks when ordering at the snack bar, in the locker room, playing cards with others, etc. They should also not get too close to others in the water (since they won't know who is vaccinated or not). This is very much an assumption of risk on their part. I am loving that are 12 and up population is racing to get vaccinated so that they will not be encumbered this year.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.


Dominion Hills was not strict with covid protocols in regards to their swim team. There were far stricter pools last summer - some that did not open at all.

The membership would revolt if other pools are being normal. The only "restriction" in place will be masks for the unvacccinated. And they will probably be an honor system. Although MD is allowing for a check system if a business wants to.
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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?


This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.


Dominion Hills was not strict with covid protocols in regards to their swim team. There were far stricter pools last summer - some that did not open at all.

The membership would revolt if other pools are being normal. The only "restriction" in place will be masks for the unvacccinated. And they will probably be an honor system. Although MD is allowing for a check system if a business wants to.


I hope this is true for DH, but I don't have much hope given the fact that they are only allowing 12 families at a time in the pool this weekend (out of 500 family memberships) and restricting people to roped off sections. And sending an email to the entire membership threatening to kick people out of the pool if they revolt was a little much. btw-- one of the only reasons that swim team happened last summer was because there were a number of board members with competitive year-round swimmers (including last year's board president), but most of them decided not to run for re-election. I don't think the DH swim team is as well represented on the board this year as they have been in previous years, and I expect the board may take a heavier hand this year given their conservative stance on social distancing and the fact that most swim team members are too young to be vaccinated. Hopefully I am wrong.
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