Summer pool rules

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Anonymous wrote:Our MoCo pool is requiring us to sign up for sessions again and is closing 5x a day for cleaning — meaning everyone out of pool area and grounds. Are others doing this?

No, but I am on NoVA.

Maybe your pool will change their rules. The guidance only recently changed. I’m on our club’s board and while we aren’t planning reservations we had planned on staying under the state’s 75%?capacity cap, posting 6’ distancing on deck and 10’ on the water. We haven’t met yet to discuss how the nee guidance affects operations and honestly I’m not sure how it applies to pools.

well capacity limits and distancing don't apply after May 28th. We haven't announced yet but our pool is dropping all covid restrictions- I fully expect all pools will do the same. I don't know how you justify capacity limits or telling people to stay apart when there is no such state mandate.

I know there is still some skepticism on this. It seems like bard members are used to having the screws tightened over the past year that they are waiting to be told specifically that they can lift these precautions

Our board president says nothing is going to change with our current plans until we see the new rules.

direct quote from the Gov Press release- Governor Northam also announced that Virginia will ease all distancing and capacity restrictions on Friday, May 28, two weeks earlier than planned.
https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2021/may/headline-895235-en.html

He is lifting all restrictions- there are no 'new rules' to see. I am flabbergasted that any pool would continue to set up reservations and set up COVID policies in light of this announcement. (I can kind of see it if you are already open, but for pools that open May 29th it is stunning to me.)

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Anonymous wrote:Our MoCo pool is requiring us to sign up for sessions again and is closing 5x a day for cleaning — meaning everyone out of pool area and grounds. Are others doing this?

No, but I am on NoVA.

Maybe your pool will change their rules. The guidance only recently changed. I’m on our club’s board and while we aren’t planning reservations we had planned on staying under the state’s 75%?capacity cap, posting 6’ distancing on deck and 10’ on the water. We haven’t met yet to discuss how the nee guidance affects operations and honestly I’m not sure how it applies to pools.

well capacity limits and distancing don't apply after May 28th. We haven't announced yet but our pool is dropping all covid restrictions- I fully expect all pools will do the same. I don't know how you justify capacity limits or telling people to stay apart when there is no such state mandate.

I know there is still some skepticism on this. It seems like bard members are used to having the screws tightened over the past year that they are waiting to be told specifically that they can lift these precautions

Our board president says nothing is going to change with our current plans until we see the new rules.

direct quote from the Gov Press release- Governor Northam also announced that Virginia will ease all distancing and capacity restrictions on Friday, May 28, two weeks earlier than planned.
https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2021/may/headline-895235-en.html

He is lifting all restrictions- there are no 'new rules' to see. I am flabbergasted that any pool would continue to set up reservations and set up COVID policies in light of this announcement. (I can kind of see it if you are already open, but for pools that open May 29th it is stunning to me.)

PP here. I know. I am also on the board and my thought was, “There will be nothing else. That’s the new rule”. I was talking with another pool and they are waiting for an announcement that says we are moving out of Phase 3.

Honestly, I think the pools have been under such crazy rules that it will take some time to get used to or trust that everything is being lifted. It might take someone in authority directly saying, “It is ok for outdoor pools to...”.

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One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

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I hope my pool continues with the reservation system. I thought it was great. So nice to go and have a lane and have it not be crowded

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Anonymous wrote:I hope my pool continues with the reservation system. I thought it was great. So nice to go and have a lane and have it not be crowded

Do you mean you are a lap swimmer and you enjoyed having a reserved lap lane??? Or do you mean that you enjoyed swimming with your children in one lane of the pool and having them and you not allowed to mix and talk with one another? I'm genuinely curious? I know lots of lap swimmers liked the reservation system, but my impression was that everyone else saw it as a necessary evil to operate the pool in COVID times, but yearned to return to open swim.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope my pool continues with the reservation system. I thought it was great. So nice to go and have a lane and have it not be crowded

Do you mean you are a lap swimmer and you enjoyed having a reserved lap lane??? Or do you mean that you enjoyed swimming with your children in one lane of the pool and having them and you not allowed to mix and talk with one another? I'm genuinely curious? I know lots of lap swimmers liked the reservation system, but my impression was that everyone else saw it as a necessary evil to operate the pool in COVID times, but yearned to return to open swim.

I'm hoping we land on a mix of both-- reservations for lap swim times, but still do away with the reservations and roped off squares for free swim time.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

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Anonymous wrote:Our MoCo pool is requiring us to sign up for sessions again and is closing 5x a day for cleaning — meaning everyone out of pool area and grounds. Are others doing this?

No, but I am on NoVA.

Maybe your pool will change their rules. The guidance only recently changed. I’m on our club’s board and while we aren’t planning reservations we had planned on staying under the state’s 75%?capacity cap, posting 6’ distancing on deck and 10’ on the water. We haven’t met yet to discuss how the nee guidance affects operations and honestly I’m not sure how it applies to pools.

well capacity limits and distancing don't apply after May 28th. We haven't announced yet but our pool is dropping all covid restrictions- I fully expect all pools will do the same. I don't know how you justify capacity limits or telling people to stay apart when there is no such state mandate.

I know there is still some skepticism on this. It seems like bard members are used to having the screws tightened over the past year that they are waiting to be told specifically that they can lift these precautions

Our board president says nothing is going to change with our current plans until we see the new rules.

Same- as of now it's the same as last year. It sounds like there are some people who really liked the smaller crowds and exclusive-type atmosphere last year and want to use Covid as a reason to keep it in place another year even if not required.

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Anonymous wrote:Our MoCo pool is requiring us to sign up for sessions again and is closing 5x a day for cleaning — meaning everyone out of pool area and grounds. Are others doing this?

No, but I am on NoVA.

Maybe your pool will change their rules. The guidance only recently changed. I’m on our club’s board and while we aren’t planning reservations we had planned on staying under the state’s 75%?capacity cap, posting 6’ distancing on deck and 10’ on the water. We haven’t met yet to discuss how the nee guidance affects operations and honestly I’m not sure how it applies to pools.

well capacity limits and distancing don't apply after May 28th. We haven't announced yet but our pool is dropping all covid restrictions- I fully expect all pools will do the same. I don't know how you justify capacity limits or telling people to stay apart when there is no such state mandate.

I know there is still some skepticism on this. It seems like bard members are used to having the screws tightened over the past year that they are waiting to be told specifically that they can lift these precautions

Our board president says nothing is going to change with our current plans until we see the new rules.

Same- as of now it's the same as last year. It sounds like there are some people who really liked the smaller crowds and exclusive-type atmosphere last year and want to use Covid as a reason to keep it in place another year even if not required.

ours has said the same to membership, but there is already a plan B approved by the board for Memorial Day weekend if the new rules are loose enough

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Just got an email this morning from our Maryland pool removing all restrictions, and allowing guest passes this summer.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.

Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.

The EO lifting the rules still contains a section titled "continued guidance on mask wearing" with a hyperlink to the CDC webpage. CDC guidance says the unvaccinated should continue to wear masks and social distance. I am worried our board is going to use that as an excuse to continue with the current system and blame it on the kids not being vaccinated yet-- hopefully I am wrong, but our board is super conservative about everything.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.

Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .

PP here. I am on a board that seems to have mixed interpretations. It shouldn’t be this confusing, but for some reason it is turning out to be. Short of a direct order saying “Pools don’t have to lower capacity and can lift distancing requirements”, I don’t know what else to look for.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing that can get a bit confusing is that all distancing and capacity requirements are being lifted, but those who aren't vaccinated are encouraged to continue to wear masks. How does this work in a swimming pool?

This is exactly why I am worried that the new "rules" that Northam is putting in place on May 28 won't be as liberating as people seem to be predicting. Our board is keeping reservations and roped off sections right now for open swim because they say they can't trust members to observe the 10 ft social distancing. So if the revised guidance says that unvaccinated people still have to observe 6 ft of social distancing, then I think our board will continue to take a hard line on the roped off sections for open swim because they will say that kids aren't vaccinated yet and can't be trusted to social distance. Pool boards who are taking this stance now are potentially boxing themselves into a no-win situation from a member perspective. We go to Dominion Hills, which is notorious for being one of the strictest pools in NVSL. Curious to hear what other NVSL pools are saying.

Aren’t the “new rules” all distancing and capacity requirements will be lifted on the 28th? There will be no more new rules.

As far as masks the mask mandate lifted at midnight on Saturday. Those who are unvaccinated are encouraged to wear masks.

Right- the Governor said in his press release no more rules. His Chief of Staff called out pools specifically at the press conference and said 'if you are planning a summer swim league, plan for a normal summer.' For those who are not satisfied by those statements- I don't know what to tell you.

FWIW- Dominion Hills is the ONLY pool in the NVSL that I am aware of that is still planning on roping off sections off the pool. Even prior to the most recent announcement about restrictions being lifted May 28th- numerous NVSL pools had already announced that weren't even doing reservations but simply keeping an eye on overall capacity, and telling people to distance. (e.g. Donaldson Run, Arlington Forest, Kent Gardens) .

PP here. I am on a board that seems to have mixed interpretations. It shouldn’t be this confusing, but for some reason it is turning out to be. Short of a direct order saying “Pools don’t have to lower capacity and can lift distancing requirements”, I don’t know what else to look for.

There is a VRPS webinar on May 20th with Olivia McCormack which should repeat the same message. https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=bZqwF-SVHk2F4xzg1N5_wZTwapCPIFlErLEdUvlbq5pUODU1UVBDSFlNR05WVDVPNExHWVZPQU5YRi4u&fbclid=IwAR3nNdx7WABu4l-chBIhAEzUgh-1hAOEF2Cat75CcuApcqCwosxBE3s58SM

Hopefully pools coming out and announcing their plans will help pressure recalcitrant board members to loosen up.