out of control teens steal car and kill ANOTHER person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You assume they have (two) parents that are alive and functioning. And “elders”? Is this some sort of ancient church-based society? Or, if you meant grandparents, they’re likely dead or laying in an alley hoped up on opium. The city will not step up. The city can’t even administer itself much less solve this complex issue. Criminals have been emboldened and until an opposing force scares them into thinking twice, these incidents will escalate.

...opium?

a.k.a. Heroin. From the poppy. Or synthetic. Whatever you prefer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious that parents need help with their parenting. We can't rely on schools to fill in the gap, especially during the pandemic. Neighbors and elders and extended family need to step up. Unfortunately, there is a pervasive attitude not to get involved, which only leaves the problem of juvenile criminality to fester. I'm not sure that having well-intentioned white people here is going to help. This really has to be done neighborhood by neighborhood, and the city needs to step up and help citizens who want to help.

You assume they have (two) parents that are alive and functioning. And “elders”? Is this some sort of ancient church-based society? Or, if you meant grandparents, they’re likely dead or laying in an alley hoped up on opium. The city will not step up. The city can’t even administer itself much less solve this complex issue. Criminals have been emboldened and until an opposing force scares them into thinking twice, these incidents will escalate.

Why are you assuming that their grandparents are dead. When I grew up in Anacostia it was the Grandmas that rules the neighborhood. The biggest threat you could be told by anyone, including a police officer, was that you would be taken your grandma. I think that the PP is making lots of woke assumptions about raising kids in black neighborhoods. But I am not sure why they think that all of the grandparents are dead.

I am making assumptions just like everyone else on this forum. The assumptions are based on PP statements about the parents being the problem. Clearly the two youths involved have issues. PPs were blaming it on the parents. I was saying maybe their parents and g'parents were dead or not functional. It is all conjecture. No facts at all. Two can play at that game, so I joined in. See, I've made my point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If being tough on crime and putting perps in jail were enough to curb crime then we should be the safest country in the world....because we incarcerate more people than any other country in the world!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-05-13/10-countries-with-the-highest-incarceration-rates

I think you need to be tough on crime _and_ address the causes, not slack off on either. The US also has high income inequality -- maybe that leads to high criminality rates.

I'd bet most criminals are unemployed. I can't see a person with a decent job going out and robbing and stealing. If we focused more on that, for example vocational training (instead of deciding everyone needs to go to college), that would probably help. But we still need enforcement of those who do break the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

But they do keep the rest of us safe from dangerous people for longer. If we’re not going to address the problem, rehabilitate, etc, then at least keep law abiding citizens safe from harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

Lol wut? If teens know they can steal and kill without fear of consequence then yes are. Kids these days are doing all crime for social media. It’s not to put bread in their mouth. They have instragam accounts showing how bold they are. Catch up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

Lol wut? If teens know they can steal and kill without fear of consequence then yes are. Kids these days are doing all crime for social media. It’s not to put bread in their mouth. They have instragam accounts showing how bold they are. Catch up.

It’s called “clout.”

With absolutely no regard for the lives or well-being of other humans. It’s scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

Lol wut? If teens know they can steal and kill without fear of consequence then yes are. Kids these days are doing all crime for social media. It’s not to put bread in their mouth. They have instragam accounts showing how bold they are. Catch up.

It’s called “clout.”

With absolutely no regard for the lives or well-being of other humans. It’s scary.

And no regard for consequences to their own lives. So not going to be solved with sentencing laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we need to change sentencing laws in D.C. I'm for leniency but 5 years in prison for murder is a spit in the face for the dead victim's family.

Enough is enough. If these teens are going to be reckless enough to deliberately endanger someone's life and kill them, they should be getting 25 years in actual prison (transition them at age 21).

- a DC resident

Sentencing laws ARE NOT a deterrent.

Lol wut? If teens know they can steal and kill without fear of consequence then yes are. Kids these days are doing all crime for social media. It’s not to put bread in their mouth. They have instragam accounts showing how bold they are. Catch up.

It’s called “clout.”

With absolutely no regard for the lives or well-being of other humans. It’s scary.

And no regard for consequences to their own lives. So not going to be solved with sentencing laws.

I believe you've described a sociopath. Incarceration does greatly limit a sociopath's ability to harm innocent people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious that parents need help with their parenting. We can't rely on schools to fill in the gap, especially during the pandemic. Neighbors and elders and extended family need to step up. Unfortunately, there is a pervasive attitude not to get involved, which only leaves the problem of juvenile criminality to fester. I'm not sure that having well-intentioned white people here is going to help. This really has to be done neighborhood by neighborhood, and the city needs to step up and help citizens who want to help.

Unfortunately, there’s no way to force people to be good parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I’m all for tough on crime policing and sentencing, as long as it is accompanied by a focus on values as well. The problem with tough on crime is you have the left telling people that it’s not their fault and they are victims of various ——isms. The tough on crime thing works for a while but then people actually start believing those promoting the blameless victim narrative and the whole thing falls apart. So yes, tough on crime but values need to be hammered on.

The tough on crime thing works for a while, if you discount the staggering human cost because you're not the one paying it.

DP. If the choice is between violent criminals paying a cost or innocent citizens like me, I’m going to be okay with the violent criminals paying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If being tough on crime and putting perps in jail were enough to curb crime then we should be the safest country in the world....because we incarcerate more people than any other country in the world!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2019-05-13/10-countries-with-the-highest-incarceration-rates

Try comparing American cities and states that are tough on crime with those that aren’t. Then get back to us.