Universities and Colleges with less Cancel Culture?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

So, it was the liberals who canceled Liz Cheney?

Who canceled the environment?

Liz Cheney wasn't cancelled you dolt, she's still in her leadership position as she should be...see the DIFFERENCE!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

Maybe cancel culture is the wrong term, but if you haven't noticed the growing intolerance of diverse thought at American colleges, you have your head buried in the sand. It's constantly documented. I'm in education, so I get the Chronicle of Higher Ed, but anyone paying attention knows there's been a massive shift away from free speech, and towards a sort of liberal indoctrination on a lot of campuses.

Yes, I am aware of it. It started with banning people like Jane Fonda and pro-gay or pro-Choice speakers and has digressed to the left now. I get it, but let's not pretend this is a liberal thing. There is intolerance on both sides, but only one side has it end up with a failed coup in the US Capitol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

So, it was the liberals who canceled Liz Cheney?

Who canceled the environment?

Liz Cheney wasn't cancelled you dolt, she's still in her leadership position as she should be...see the DIFFERENCE!

They tried though, very strongly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

So, it was the liberals who canceled Liz Cheney?

Who canceled the environment?

Liz Cheney wasn't cancelled you dolt, she's still in her leadership position as she should be...see the DIFFERENCE!

Conservatives are impotent cancelers. 😂

[Anonymous]

Not sure why "cancel culture" is bad. Many of the colleges are "cancelling" things like scholarships named after slavers, or statues of KKK members. Or disinviting speakers like Ben Shapiro. I'd say some places might be more extreme in their positions about what should be cancelled, but this all just seems overblown to me, like conservatives fomenting over the renaming of Mr. Potato Head.

For the purposes of college, I'd be much more concerned about what is happening *in the classrooms*? And, even at liberal universities (professors have been more likely to be liberal for decades, this isn't new) I think classroom discussions and conversations tend to be less extreme than any of the activities that generate media coverage.

To OP's original question, a few colleges I have personal experience with that I know have republican faculty members in political science -- Elizabethtown College. Ohio State. I'd say big state colleges are probably "safest" for not confronting issues that would be uncomfortable, but I think that the interrogation of work in small classes at small colleges is better for everyone.

University of Chicago, for all of its "public facing" language doesn't have any Republicans in their poli sci department. They all are in econ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

So, it was the liberals who canceled Liz Cheney?

Who canceled the environment?

Liz Cheney wasn't cancelled you dolt, she's still in her leadership position as she should be...see the DIFFERENCE!

They tried though, very strongly.

No, the GOP base tried to vote her out of leadership because they disagreed with her position. That's a very different thing. You don't even understand what "cancel" means. It's just a cool word to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

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Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

+1. I think people are using “cancel culture” differently. I agree with you left is unwilling to hear alternative thought, even if it’s ultimately compatible with being liberal.

[Anonymous]

OP -- I have not read all the responses, but feel similar to you. Other than UChicago, I think NW, Penn, Michigan, Wisconsin, UT, Vanderbilt, UVA, Emory, Wake Forrest, UC Boulder, UC Santa Barbara, W&L, Davidson, VA Tech, MIT, Notre Dame, and Villanova are all possibilities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am following this thread with interest. My two teens are at a DC private. Earlier this year, my DS had two assignments in one week to write papers (in separate classes) about his white privilege. We are super liberal, and our kids are pretty liberal too, but they say that they just don't want everything to be about race. So for them, they are starting to look for colleges that are not over-the-top one-sided.

If you read about privilege, the is the exact definition of it. Not wanting to deal with racial issues when POC have to deal with it daily. Opting out of a discussion that affects their livelihood is privilege.

I’ve learned this through reading up on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

I would dare say you aren't liberal or conservative, just a human being that has the ability to formulate their own views...this as you said is the rub, woke culture isn't just about cool, do what you want, it is embrace my philosophy fully or you are bad. Do people not see the danger in this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

+1. I think people are using “cancel culture” differently. I agree with you left is unwilling to hear alternative thought, even if it’s ultimately compatible with being liberal.

But I think that not being able to freely speak your mind without facing dire professional consequences is the essence of cancel culture. It's scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

I would dare say you aren't liberal or conservative, just a human being that has the ability to formulate their own views...this as you said is the rub, woke culture isn't just about cool, do what you want, it is embrace my philosophy fully or you are bad. Do people not see the danger in this?

I think you can see from this thread that, no, the “woke” don’t see the danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

Cancel culture is real. How do I know this? I'm a liberal, but I do not feel free to express my opinions. Some of my opinions I don't feel free to express (except anonymously):
- I disagreed with closing schools and think schools should be 5 days a week
- I disagree with giving minors gender transforming hormones without their parent's consent because the long term health consequences are unknown, and I don't believe a 13-year-old has the wisdom to permanently transform their body in irrevocable ways
- I think that the focus on identity politics is divisive, brings out the worst in our country, and ignores huge swaths of the population that don't fit neatly into one group (my family, for example)

Were I to express these views publicly, I would probably face dire professional consequences so I sit quietly on the sidelines.

+1. I think people are using “cancel culture” differently. I agree with you left is unwilling to hear alternative thought, even if it’s ultimately compatible with being liberal.

But I think that not being able to freely speak your mind without facing dire professional consequences is the essence of cancel culture. It's scary.

Maybe I didn’t word that well, I 100% agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

Ironic. You trying to dictate how people respond to you.

The answer, OP, is most colleges and universities will have what you're looking for. If your child (and it's your CHILD who needs to be concerned about this, not you) is so put off by factions of radicals, most campuses have those too. Maybe trade school would be a better fit if they can't handle that?

Ironically, it is this type of response to OP's question that she is trying to avoid. You immediately rejected her point of view and then tried to relegate her kid to trade school. Do you see what you did there? Stop it. She's entitled to her view points and questions. You can respect that, choose not to answer, and move on.

Well, her point of view is not valid. So yes, I did that. Because I am correcting her. We don’t need to pretend like everyone’s opinion is valid just because they express it.

This is probably the most progressive, liberal response on this thread. To try to inject a bit of self-awareness, YOU are exactly who the OP is trying to avoid, and with good reason.

DP...so I guess we are ok with Nazi point of views running rampant in our culture without consequence.

OP, is not a Nazi and neither are her viewpoints. That is the exact problem. Her views are completely valid but she's being shut down and now there's a comparison to Nazis. This is the craziness she's trying to avoid.