Universities and Colleges with less Cancel Culture?

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My DS is at University of Dayton and he was really surprised his freshman year to encounter a real mix of political views. Our family would be considered liberal leaning but there is definitely voices on noth sides of the fence.

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

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Anonymous wrote:Freedom fries and Dixie Chicks? That’s your evidence for cancel culture on the right?

Jane Fonda
Elmo
Tele Tubbies

it goes a ways back

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

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Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

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I understand what you are saying, OP. And I am liberal and agree that some of these SLAC are just so over the top trying to overcompensate with their constant drumbeat of white privilege. And canceling speakers (literally canceling) who have a different political point of view.

It's too bad, they have become kind of parodies of themselves.

I would look at flagship schools -- like UMD, UVA, Penn State -- I feel like these schools have a nice healthy mix of liberals, conservatives and people who could give two shits. I happen to think they are more diverse in general, and better prepare graduates for the real world. I do get that many kids need a smaller environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

Maybe cancel culture is the wrong term, but if you haven't noticed the growing intolerance of diverse thought at American colleges, you have your head buried in the sand. It's constantly documented. I'm in education, so I get the Chronicle of Higher Ed, but anyone paying attention knows there's been a massive shift away from free speech, and towards a sort of liberal indoctrination on a lot of campuses.

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Anonymous wrote:Purdue

Yes to Purdue. Most of the other schools listed are too conservative for OP. Do not dismiss the Catholic schools so quickly, OP, and look at Niche rankings of most liberal Vs most conservative schools.

Ya, those Catholic school's don't cancel pro-choice or gender fluid topics

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Anonymous wrote:Freedom fries and Dixie Chicks? That’s your evidence for cancel culture on the right?

Liz Cheney, Trump's boycott XYZ company, demand Fox News fire xyz conservative who doesn't agree wiith Trump.... the list is endless.

Do you think Liberty U would not cancel a speaker if they found out that the speaker was gay or had antifa beliefs? give me a break. Why have they never invited Ivanka to speak at Liberty? I'm curious. Not reallly.

Colin Kaepernick, Kathy Gifford, that Arthur episode, any store that doesn't say "Merry Christmas"... I mean, the list goes on...

But none of your examples were actually cancelled...there may have been people calling for it but stay with me here, it's business as usual for these examples minus CK. CK is a whole different dynamic, he had a few good seasons (life long Niner fan here) but he simply is not good enough to overcome his baggage. The NFL has plenty of examples of players that are still playing in spite of some pretty horrific things....manslaughter, spousal abuse, rape etc. The League is purely money driven, if you have the talent to overcome and sell tickets than the door is open. CK has leveraged his status well, he has made more money not playing and playing the victim than he would have playing and most likely shortening his life span. Additionally he grew up in an UMC family with white parents so his whole persona at this point is a contrived sales pitch which is why you have seen the majority of players abandon ship. There are much more worthy ambassadors for the cause.

On to the rest of this...CC is a slippery slope, even Bill Maher has recently vociferously called it out. As I said, it is one thing to call for it and another to action it, actions always speak louder than words. When people get demonetized or kicked off of platforms, when people with actual power can silence speech or art that is scary territory. If you think for one second that the Dr. Seuss foundations decision to stop publication of those 6 books wasn't simply to get in front of a CC landslide than you are intellectually dishonest. It was bow to the masses for 6 or risk Dr. Seuss forever.

None of this will sway you or anyone of your ideological persuasion but again, it is about the power to do and the principal to not do it. Our country is unique because we can cry, whine and scream...it is healthy for the nation and humanity as a whole. There are many in power that lack the principal to not do it and it can happen to anyone, that is the problem.

It's about the power to do it, not calling for it! People in power (Big Tech, Media, political super majorities) are actually doing it, that is the rub.

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Anonymous wrote:Team OP. I’m pretty liberal but it’s become a bit much. We lost the working-class and need to figure out a way to reach a swath of folks, not just focus on identity politics. I’m in favor of most of the ideas but not the dogmatism (as a PP noted, I’ve had my fill of that from the right). If we don’t want this country to completely fracture, as it almost did in this past election, we have to figure out a better way. Pronouns are not the problem here. And the economic elite like those at area privates being smug and hyper about cancel culture is not the way. Maybe private s should be canceled, since they propagate economic disparity and school inequality, despite whatever scholarships they dole out. Siphoning kids away from the public school system is worse than being careless about pronouns or reading Dr. Seuss.

You are buying into the Fox News hype. "Cancel Culture" is a product of the Fox/right wing echo machine.

+1

Way to go propagating a RWNJ talking point.

DP. I don't even watch or read RWNJ outlets. I'm a liberal. You don't have to subscribe to RWNJ theories to recognize that today's progressivism is vicious and that the right to non-offensive speech is undermining the free exchange of ideas that is essential to a college education, and our democracy, but that's another story.

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Anonymous wrote:Purdue

Yes to Purdue. Most of the other schools listed are too conservative for OP. Do not dismiss the Catholic schools so quickly, OP, and look at Niche rankings of most liberal Vs most conservative schools.

Ya, those Catholic school's don't cancel pro-choice or gender fluid topics

Unfortunately, we're not Catholic but I find this very appealing.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

Ironic. You trying to dictate how people respond to you.

The answer, OP, is most colleges and universities will have what you're looking for. If your child (and it's your CHILD who needs to be concerned about this, not you) is so put off by factions of radicals, most campuses have those too. Maybe trade school would be a better fit if they can't handle that?

Ironically, it is this type of response to OP's question that she is trying to avoid. You immediately rejected her point of view and then tried to relegate her kid to trade school. Do you see what you did there? Stop it. She's entitled to her view points and questions. You can respect that, choose not to answer, and move on.

Well, her point of view is not valid. So yes, I did that. Because I am correcting her. We don’t need to pretend like everyone’s opinion is valid just because they express it.

This is probably the most progressive, liberal response on this thread. To try to inject a bit of self-awareness, YOU are exactly who the OP is trying to avoid, and with good reason.

DP...so I guess we are ok with Nazi point of views running rampant in our culture without consequence.

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op, I share your values/concerns. The whole point of higher education is open debate. I agree with the poster who said southern state flagships.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

So, it was the liberals who canceled Liz Cheney?

Who canceled the environment?

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People mix up the notions of open debate and accountability. Take all the broad views you want, but own your views turn into policy or action (which they often do), you should expect to be held accountable for the outcome

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Anonymous wrote:University of Texas made their football players sing the "eyes of texas" to top donor's like a minstrel show. that might be a good fit.

OP HERE- Please stop. I asked for no snark. WE ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE!! We are liberal- we just want a place that allows for dialogue!!!

The irony, you are more conservative than you think. Liberals don't want dialogue, it is why they push cancel culture. CC is a product/tactic of your ilk not conservatives, own it.

I wonder where liberals learned it? Remember when anyone not supporting endless wars was considered unAmerican and against the troops? Before that, remember the ostracism you faced for not being sufficiently Christian/strait/capitalist?

No, I don't.

OP, we're in the same boat and I look forward to serious responses here. DC is at a Big 3/5 - we ARE a conservative family and are seriously considering a school like Hillsdale.

Got to keep the snowflakes in a bubble, lest they get any ideas of their own.

No, I just prefer that my child be educated, versus indoctrinated.

No, you are choosing to block an important part of their education that will enable them to become functioning members of the workforce.

Pro-tip: Fortune 500 companies are extremely “woke” and committed to diversity and inclusiveness. Trying to shield them from this reality will only hamstring their professional prospects.

Says little you, now, today. Wait til the backlash hits.

Backlash like the Insurrection?

Black lash like trump being re-elected in 2024. I think this is 100% possible.