Can we talk about the equality act?

[Anonymous]

When it comes to Title IX, the discrimination based on sex would be that there are sex profiled stereotypes (Men wear pants, women wear dresses, men have short hair, women have longer hair, etc); and if someone is not cis and is a gender fluid or FTM trans and gets fired, they can make the claim that they were fired (or denied housing, etc) because they individually weren't conforming to the sex stereotype of a dress wearing, long haired, feminine woman, thus if they had been a man dressed in pants, with short hair, macho, then they would have gotten the job.....

It's the stereotype of the what a male or female sex is. Some people feel that gender and sex are interchangeable, some say there are three sexes (male, female, intersex) but many different genders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Whether that’s the case or not is irrelevant to the comment I was responding to. But what a surprise that bigots can’t address anything on this merits and instead try to find ways of trying to degrade people who think differently.

Look lady. I grew up before Title IX. I don't think you have any idea of what went into getting this for women. Why do you think women's sports are separate from men's sports? Because women are biologically different. They cannot compete at the same level in most sports.
Since you seem unaware of how sports work, here's a little update for you: in high school, many team sports are selective. Not everyone makes the team--boys or girls. But, a transgender girl will have a great advantage on a team that requires speed and strength: soccer, lacrosse, softball, field hockey. That is just a fact. And, some girls will want to play at a college level and may lose the opportunity to get scholarships because of trans girls getting the slots. I saw a young female sprinter interviewed this week. She has a twin brother who is not a sprinter--but can still outrun her.

This is not a matter of bigotry or bathrooms. It is a principle of fairness. And, as stated earlier, women were eliminated from the Olympics for taking testosterone to get a competitive advantage. Trans women have it naturally.

Try using just a little common sense. This Equality Act needs to be rewritten.

Title IX was about far more than sports. If you think access to school athletics was the primary goal of Title IX, your understanding of history is fundamentally misinformed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are so triggered by this. The last thing you need to worry about in a women's restroom is a trans woman.

We are triggered because it is so patently unfair, and everyone just looks the other way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When it comes to Title IX, the discrimination based on sex would be that there are sex profiled stereotypes (Men wear pants, women wear dresses, men have short hair, women have longer hair, etc); and if someone is not cis and is a gender fluid or FTM trans and gets fired, they can make the claim that they were fired (or denied housing, etc) because they individually weren't conforming to the sex stereotype of a dress wearing, long haired, feminine woman, thus if they had been a man dressed in pants, with short hair, macho, then they would have gotten the job.....

It's the stereotype of the what a male or female sex is. Some people feel that gender and sex are interchangeable, some say there are three sexes (male, female, intersex) but many different genders.

No, protections are on the basis of sex, not the adherence to gender stereotypes. You are flat out making stuff up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Mmmm.....having had that experience as a grown young woman on the Paris Metro, I can tell you that it is very, very creepy. And, I wouldn't want my ten year old to experience that. And, I think we all know that it is different.
However, I don't think that is the real issue, here. It could be an "unintended consequence" that people "abuse" the privilege, but i am more concerned about its effect on equal rights for women. I am also very, very concerned about the troubling use of hormones and surgery on adolescents.

We need to step back a bit on this. Gender reassignment surgery is forever. Many 14 year olds go through adjustment processes and it is very easy for an unhappy young person to think that "I can be happy if I were............"

Oh really? How is it different? Can you explain it without relying on anti-gay stereotypes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you aware of your own homophobia and gender bigotry?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whether that’s the case or not is irrelevant to the comment I was responding to. But what a surprise that bigots can’t address anything on this merits and instead try to find ways of trying to degrade people who think differently.

Look lady. I grew up before Title IX. I don't think you have any idea of what went into getting this for women. Why do you think women's sports are separate from men's sports? Because women are biologically different. They cannot compete at the same level in most sports.
Since you seem unaware of how sports work, here's a little update for you: in high school, many team sports are selective. Not everyone makes the team--boys or girls. But, a transgender girl will have a great advantage on a team that requires speed and strength: soccer, lacrosse, softball, field hockey. That is just a fact. And, some girls will want to play at a college level and may lose the opportunity to get scholarships because of trans girls getting the slots. I saw a young female sprinter interviewed this week. She has a twin brother who is not a sprinter--but can still outrun her.

This is not a matter of bigotry or bathrooms. It is a principle of fairness. And, as stated earlier, women were eliminated from the Olympics for taking testosterone to get a competitive advantage. Trans women have it naturally.

Try using just a little common sense. This Equality Act needs to be rewritten.

+1,000,000

+2,000,000
This bill seems to be favoring transgender people over cisgender people. Especially women.
I cannot see this ever standing up in a court of law. Leave it to Nancy to push things way too far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you saying I shouldn’t be troubled if an adult man is ogling my 10 year old son for sexual gratification? What kind of pervert are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you aware of your own homophobia and gender bigotry?

It’s basically codifying Bostock, so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whether that’s the case or not is irrelevant to the comment I was responding to. But what a surprise that bigots can’t address anything on this merits and instead try to find ways of trying to degrade people who think differently.

Look lady. I grew up before Title IX. I don't think you have any idea of what went into getting this for women. Why do you think women's sports are separate from men's sports? Because women are biologically different. They cannot compete at the same level in most sports.
Since you seem unaware of how sports work, here's a little update for you: in high school, many team sports are selective. Not everyone makes the team--boys or girls. But, a transgender girl will have a great advantage on a team that requires speed and strength: soccer, lacrosse, softball, field hockey. That is just a fact. And, some girls will want to play at a college level and may lose the opportunity to get scholarships because of trans girls getting the slots. I saw a young female sprinter interviewed this week. She has a twin brother who is not a sprinter--but can still outrun her.

This is not a matter of bigotry or bathrooms. It is a principle of fairness. And, as stated earlier, women were eliminated from the Olympics for taking testosterone to get a competitive advantage. Trans women have it naturally.

Try using just a little common sense. This Equality Act needs to be rewritten.

+1,000,000

+2,000,000
This bill seems to be favoring transgender people over cisgender people. Especially women.
I cannot see this ever standing up in a court of law. Leave it to Nancy to push things way too far.

It’s basically codifying Bostock, so...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whether that’s the case or not is irrelevant to the comment I was responding to. But what a surprise that bigots can’t address anything on this merits and instead try to find ways of trying to degrade people who think differently.

Look lady. I grew up before Title IX. I don't think you have any idea of what went into getting this for women. Why do you think women's sports are separate from men's sports? Because women are biologically different. They cannot compete at the same level in most sports.
Since you seem unaware of how sports work, here's a little update for you: in high school, many team sports are selective. Not everyone makes the team--boys or girls. But, a transgender girl will have a great advantage on a team that requires speed and strength: soccer, lacrosse, softball, field hockey. That is just a fact. And, some girls will want to play at a college level and may lose the opportunity to get scholarships because of trans girls getting the slots. I saw a young female sprinter interviewed this week. She has a twin brother who is not a sprinter--but can still outrun her.

This is not a matter of bigotry or bathrooms. It is a principle of fairness. And, as stated earlier, women were eliminated from the Olympics for taking testosterone to get a competitive advantage. Trans women have it naturally.

Try using just a little common sense. This Equality Act needs to be rewritten.

+1,000,000

+2,000,000
This bill seems to be favoring transgender people over cisgender people. Especially women.
I cannot see this ever standing up in a court of law. Leave it to Nancy to push things way too far.

It’s basically codifying Bostock, so...

It goes beyond that. It also impinges on religious liberty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Whether that’s the case or not is irrelevant to the comment I was responding to. But what a surprise that bigots can’t address anything on this merits and instead try to find ways of trying to degrade people who think differently.

Look lady. I grew up before Title IX. I don't think you have any idea of what went into getting this for women. Why do you think women's sports are separate from men's sports? Because women are biologically different. They cannot compete at the same level in most sports.
Since you seem unaware of how sports work, here's a little update for you: in high school, many team sports are selective. Not everyone makes the team--boys or girls. But, a transgender girl will have a great advantage on a team that requires speed and strength: soccer, lacrosse, softball, field hockey. That is just a fact. And, some girls will want to play at a college level and may lose the opportunity to get scholarships because of trans girls getting the slots. I saw a young female sprinter interviewed this week. She has a twin brother who is not a sprinter--but can still outrun her.

This is not a matter of bigotry or bathrooms. It is a principle of fairness. And, as stated earlier, women were eliminated from the Olympics for taking testosterone to get a competitive advantage. Trans women have it naturally.

Try using just a little common sense. This Equality Act needs to be rewritten.

+1,000,000

+2,000,000
This bill seems to be favoring transgender people over cisgender people. Especially women.
I cannot see this ever standing up in a court of law. Leave it to Nancy to push things way too far.

It’s basically codifying Bostock, so...

It goes beyond that. It also impinges on religious liberty.

Except it doesn’t. But I bet you’re just itching to post the National Review article.