Can we talk about the equality act?

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Why pity bigots? Maybe they are happier that way.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you saying I shouldn’t be troubled if an adult man is ogling my 10 year old son for sexual gratification? What kind of pervert are you?

I was referencing the idea of women exposing themselves as a source of sexual gratification. That is a far less common scenario than the reverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are so triggered by this. The last thing you need to worry about in a women's restroom is a trans woman.

These are not just conservatives. This is a big issue with feminists which last I checked were not conservative/republican.

I’m a feminist. I don’t care who peers where. W

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Can you please clarify what portion on pp’s statement that you find to be bigoted?

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you saying I shouldn’t be troubled if an adult man is ogling my 10 year old son for sexual gratification? What kind of pervert are you?

I was referencing the idea of women exposing themselves as a source of sexual gratification. That is a far less common scenario than the reverse.

So you agree that I should be concerned about a naked man ogling my 10 yo son for sexual gratification?

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Can you please clarify what portion on pp’s statement that you find to be bigoted?

Women can be sexual predators, and deliberately exposing your genitalia to children for sexual purposes is wrong no matter what kind of genitalia you have.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you saying I shouldn’t be troubled if an adult man is ogling my 10 year old son for sexual gratification? What kind of pervert are you?

I was referencing the idea of women exposing themselves as a source of sexual gratification. That is a far less common scenario than the reverse.

So you agree that I should be concerned about a naked man ogling my 10 yo son for sexual gratification?

Sure. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make?

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

Are not familiar with the differences between male and female sexuality?

Are you saying I shouldn’t be troubled if an adult man is ogling my 10 year old son for sexual gratification? What kind of pervert are you?

I was referencing the idea of women exposing themselves as a source of sexual gratification. That is a far less common scenario than the reverse.

So you agree that I should be concerned about a naked man ogling my 10 yo son for sexual gratification?

Sure. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make?

Then it sounds like communal changing rooms are dangerous anyway and we should do away with them for everyone's safety.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Can you please clarify what portion on pp’s statement that you find to be bigoted?

Women can be sexual predators, and deliberately exposing your genitalia to children for sexual purposes is wrong no matter what kind of genitalia you have.

Of course they CAN, and of course it would be wrong. But they almost never DO that. And if they do expose themselves then it's not crystal clear to even a prepubescent child that they're sexually aroused.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Can you please clarify what portion on pp’s statement that you find to be bigoted?

Women can be sexual predators, and deliberately exposing your genitalia to children for sexual purposes is wrong no matter what kind of genitalia you have.

Of course they CAN, and of course it would be wrong. But they almost never DO that. And if they do expose themselves then it's not crystal clear to even a prepubescent child that they're sexually aroused.

A woman sitting on a bench with her legs spread wide apart staring intently at my naked child is going to be disturbing whether I can see visible evidence of her sexual arousal or not. If you would be okay with that around your children, I think that's deeply disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Why pity bigots? Maybe they are happier that way.

Happy people don’t devote so much energy to hating and oppressing people. But it can provide some temporary relief for bigots’ own self-loathing.

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Anonymous wrote:What about locker room and public shower? If any man claim they are a woman at a given moment, she can enter a locker room for woman in public or private swim pool and gym, be naked with her penis exposed and stare at naked women, teens, and young girls. Is there any law against a man to watch women or young girls in locker room?

If you want to go down that road, then perhaps we need to reconsider the antiquated notion of sex-segregated locker rooms and bathrooms. Why do we need segregated facilities? I’ve seen penises before, they’re not inherently scary or offensive to me. Is it that someone in the locker room could be eyeing me with sexual interest? A gay or bi woman could do that too.

If you bring your 10 years old girl to a swimming pool, will you be comfortable to have her being stared by a man with exposed penis?

Why would I be any less concerned about her being stared at by a woman with an exposed vulva? And should I not be concerned about my 10 yo son being started at by a man with an exposed penis? Perhaps the answer is to get rid of communal locker rooms entirely and just have single user and family changing stalls. Then the whole issue goes away for everyone, trans people included.

People tend to be a lot more cautious when taking kids into male changing rooms or bathrooms. You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that 99.9% of pedophiles, and for that matter 99.9% of sexual predators, are men. Women's bathrooms are basically considered safe spaces. The very rare times there is an incident with someone planting a hidden camera or something like that, there is always a man behind it.

I don't think good parents want their child being exposed to male genitalia at all. It's why there are laws against flashing.

Female genitalia is not the same thing at all. That genitalia almost certainly does not belong to a sexual predator and it's also basically hidden from the front. There is also no indication about sexual arousal.

I do not believe that you're a parent because I don't believe someone can care so little about their children as to think that this is all no big deal. (And if you were a parent then you'd also understand that men can be parents too, which is basically the reason there ISN'T a communal family changing room - because parents don't want their girls being exposed to adult men when either one is potentially in a state of undress.)

I am a parent, and you are a bigot. I pity your children, because they’re probably grow up to be the same kind of bigot you are.

DP. Why pity bigots? Maybe they are happier that way.

Happy people don’t devote so much energy to hating and oppressing people. But it can provide some temporary relief for bigots’ own self-loathing.

Happy people do whatever makes them happy. Happy people also think you are funny when you tell them they are unhappy. I know this because I am happy and I don't care if you call me a bigot.

[Anonymous]

This just in!!

You can love and respect someone, and want them to have dignity and safety, but doing so doesn’t mean having to give them everything they want, or that it is a good thing for everyone to have what they want, at all times.

Also: Even though someone does not agree with everything you believe, that does not make them hateful or a bigot.

The major problem I see is the definition of “woman” being changed and erased.

I also don’t think it is a coincidence that every person I know who wants transwomen competing in women’s sports has never played a sport themselves. It’s easy to tell other people what to do when you have no skin in the game and never have.

Is it not telling that the people who tend to be the most vocal and act so entitled about these things are transwomen and not transmen? Is it just coincidence that men, particularly white men, are accustomed to being heard and getting their way? Is it just a coincidence that a much higher percentage of transwomen identify as “lesbian” than typically found among cis women?

[Anonymous]

Nobody has mentioned prisons yet. Under this new bill, men identifying as women can demand to be sent to women’s prison. Here in California, it is already happening and rape has been up as a result.

[Anonymous]

All of the arguments about sports are clearly fearmongering. Renee Richards played women's tennis over 40 years ago, with some success. Did that lead to a surge in men "pretending" to be transgender women in order to win tennis tournaments? Of course not. Yes, there are likely to be a more transgender women athletes at various levels as transgender people become more accepted in society, but there will never be a large number. The idea that men or boys will "fake" being transgender in order to win trophies is ridiculous.