VA Budget Salary Increases for Teachers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

Nobody gives a crap about your "support" or lack thereof.

That’s fine. But if they ask, I’ll let them know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

I know it’s larger than any one teacher - but I do think kids should have been in school starting in August and staffing issues were a big part of not going back. I don’t blame the school system for the closure from March - June but I do after Northam said schools could open in person and FCPS didn’t until now.

Vote however you all want - including on this issue if relevant, but I also knew there were no WMD in Iraq either and voted for other Ds for a while after that (who didn’t support going to war). I’m over it now. But it’s one reason I voted Barack v Hilary in the 2008 primary. It will take me a while to get over this schools thing too.

[Anonymous]

Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

I know it’s larger than any one teacher - but I do think kids should have been in school starting in August and staffing issues were a big part of not going back. I don’t blame the school system for the closure from March - June but I do after Northam said schools could open in person and FCPS didn’t until now.

Vote however you all want - including on this issue if relevant, but I also knew there were no WMD in Iraq either and voted for other Ds for a while after that (who didn’t support going to war). I’m over it now. But it’s one reason I voted Barack v Hilary in the 2008 primary. It will take me a while to get over this schools thing too.

You are equating the school board not opening schools immediately in mid-January 2021 to......Bush lying about WMDs to put us in a war that killed thousands of Americans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Really? How is anything in that post “bullying”? Looks to me like you would rather call names and stoke the flames of division between parents and teachers than seek positive change for the education of children.

- Parent who foolishly thought the purpose of public schools was to educate children (when it is really meant to pit two parties (parents and teachers) against each other to obtain and hold power for a third party (guess who)).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

Re-read the post you originally quoted. It does NOT denigrate teachers. Stop trying to put parents and teachers against each other!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Really? How is anything in that post “bullying”? Looks to me like you would rather call names and stoke the flames of division between parents and teachers than seek positive change for the education of children.

- Parent who foolishly thought the purpose of public schools was to educate children (when it is really meant to pit two parties (parents and teachers) against each other to obtain and hold power for a third party (guess who)).

I didn't say that post was bullying. There are countless threads though that are full of bullies hating on teachers - take your pick.

Schools are educating kids.

Most parents & teachers are working together.

A small subset of entitled, ignorant parents have decided to throw a temper tantrum because they didn't get their (unrealistic) way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

Re-read the post you originally quoted. It does NOT denigrate teachers. Stop trying to put parents and teachers against each other!

Uh OK. I didn't say that post denigrated teachers. ??

I said there is a small group of parent bullies. And that it isn't a "both sides" situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

Re-read the post you originally quoted. It does NOT denigrate teachers. Stop trying to put parents and teachers against each other!

Uh OK. I didn't say that post denigrated teachers. ??

I said there is a small group of parent bullies. And that it isn't a "both sides" situation.

DP. You're being very selective in your thread reading and your name-calling. So good for you, I guess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

A very telling, willful misinterpretation of a post that suggests working together to obtain support and resources for teachers. It is a shame that some folks profit off of dividing teachers and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

Re-read the post you originally quoted. It does NOT denigrate teachers. Stop trying to put parents and teachers against each other!

Uh OK. I didn't say that post denigrated teachers. ??

I said there is a small group of parent bullies. And that it isn't a "both sides" situation.

DP. You're being very selective in your thread reading and your name-calling. So good for you, I guess?

Hmmm...the mystery “group with very little power” is upset by the idea of parents and teachers working together rather than fighting. Who would that be? Who profits off of that division?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

A very telling, willful misinterpretation of a post that suggests working together to obtain support and resources for teachers. It is a shame that some folks profit off of dividing teachers and parents.

Don't "both sides" this. There is a small group of bullies that wants to harm teachers. Focus your attention on them.