VA Budget Salary Increases for Teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers and parents share far too much in common for all of this fighting.

Teachers are stuck in a bad spot in all of this. I genuinely believe this.

Kids are being used as leverage. Nothing new.

Teachers and parents need to focus on their SHARED concerns. The only ones who benefit from divided teachers and parents are those who profit off of controlling teachers’ availability as leverage against parents.

Focus on education. Both teachers and parents should be willing to hold out from participating in the system until the system provides teachers the resources and support that parents and teachers both expect. Stop fighting each other.

Nope. This isn't "fighting". There are no "both sides".

Teachers are busy teaching.

Administrators are busy trying to figure out how to open building for more kids.

A small group of entitled, ignorant parents are whining and trying to bully teachers because think they can get away with it.

-Parent who doesn't tolerate bullying

Is that really what you see?

Administrators haven't been working hard for six months (September until now) trying to figure out how to get students into buildings. Please.

Parents didn't go to Richmond (!) because they are entitled and ignorant. They went because they care about children and education. And were frustrated by the school boards' inability to do anything.

Yes, that's what I see. Many parents are throwing a temper tantrum because they feel they are entitled to something that just couldn't happen given our constraints. And they are misdirecting their rage towards a group of people that have very little power. They are bullies. It's been an eye-opening experience.

Re-read the post you originally quoted. It does NOT denigrate teachers. Stop trying to put parents and teachers against each other!

Uh OK. I didn't say that post denigrated teachers. ??

I said there is a small group of parent bullies. And that it isn't a "both sides" situation.

DP. You're being very selective in your thread reading and your name-calling. So good for you, I guess?

Hmmm...the mystery “group with very little power” is upset by the idea of parents and teachers working together rather than fighting. Who would that be? Who profits off of that division?

Teachers and non-bully parents *are* working together, nut job. Are you even a parent with a kid enrolled in VA public school?

[Anonymous]

Calling people “nut job” and characterizing parents as “bullies” is not the hallmark of a person/group that seeks to bring parents and teachers together. It is the methodology of someone trying to frame parents as the “enemy” against whom teachers need dues paying protection from such awful bullies.

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I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

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Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

Contrary to your narrative that schools couldn't be opened safely, Rhode Island pushed to open schools and kept them open with VERY low in-school transmission all year. And in fall our numbers were low. And they might have stayed somewhat lower if schools were open, since multiple studies have shown that kids are safer from COVID at school. Read up on some national news sources talking about COVID. This isn't hidden stuff.

This study was available back in July/August as schools were making plans?

Monday morning quarterback.

Here, more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/08/21/coronavirus-child-care-protocols/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_viruschildcare-645pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

Protection? Protection from the posts on this thread?

Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Calling people “nut job” and characterizing parents as “bullies” is not the hallmark of a person/group that seeks to bring parents and teachers together. It is the methodology of someone trying to frame parents as the “enemy” against whom teachers need dues paying protection from such awful bullies.

Whatever you say, nut job.

I’m a parent and I’m pro-teacher and pro-teachers union. All of the areas in the US with excellent school systems have strong teachers unions. Teachers having a voice in education policy is good for everyone.

Anyway, the “division” comes from the jerk parents trying to blame the pandemic on the teachers. You want to see bullying - go read the countless threads of these jerks trashing teachers. It’s disgusting.

You want to address “division”? Focus on them.

[Anonymous]

Enjoy your petty misery bubble, folks.

Only half of the students at my school are coming back. Many are happy and thriving with DL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

Protection? Protection from the posts on this thread?

Really?

Are you new to DCUM? Teacher bashing is rampant on multiple forums. It’s disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enjoy your petty misery bubble, folks.

Only half of the students at my school are coming back. Many are happy and thriving with DL.

Or something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

Protection? Protection from the posts on this thread?

Really?

Are you new to DCUM? Teacher bashing is rampant on multiple forums. It’s disgusting.

So therefore teachers need a raise? What?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

Contrary to your narrative that schools couldn't be opened safely, Rhode Island pushed to open schools and kept them open with VERY low in-school transmission all year. And in fall our numbers were low. And they might have stayed somewhat lower if schools were open, since multiple studies have shown that kids are safer from COVID at school. Read up on some national news sources talking about COVID. This isn't hidden stuff.

This study was available back in July/August as schools were making plans?

Monday morning quarterback.

Here, more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/08/21/coronavirus-child-care-protocols/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_viruschildcare-645pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

“More”? You haven’t provided anything yet.

And this study is about daycare.

Small daycare <> ES school with 700 kids <> MS with 1000 kids <> HS with 2500 kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

Protection? Protection from the posts on this thread?

Really?

Are you new to DCUM? Teacher bashing is rampant on multiple forums. It’s disgusting.

So therefore teachers need a raise? What?

There are many different topics covered over many different threads. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many teacher bashing posts can DCUM have at any given time? This board has gone to crap.

Agreed! Teachers are working 5 days a week right now! We are working just as hard as ever before. We deserve to receive cost of living and step increases AT A MINIMUM.

You have my support when all kids who want it are back in school 5 days a week.

You are ignorant trash. GTFO.

-parent

You can call me ignorant all you want. I think that says more about you than it does about me.
My spouse is a teacher and really advocating on the steps point. I tell my spouse the same thing I’m saying here - you’ll have more support for all of this once all kids are back in school. You’re the dumb one if you want to keep your head in the sand on that major public relations issue.

No, I called you ignorant because you are ignorant.

Facts:
Teachers didn't manufacture this virus that is easily spread in the air.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not wear masks.
Teachers didn't force millions of Americans to not the virus seriously.
Teachers didn't cause community spread.
Teachers didn't cause the pandemic.
Teachers didn't design or build the small classrooms.
Teachers didn't create the large class sizes.

Teachers have ZERO control over the constraints of "return to school". You should be happy that any kids are in person at all FFS.

Facts: Teachers all over the country threatened to quit when told to return to school last fall.
In other parts of the country, school administrators or governors called their bluff and schools reopened. Here, they didn't.

So teachers get the credit for keeping schools closed. Yay for teachers! It worked!

Now teachers are also getting blamed for keeping schools closed. Oh.

We - the parents and community - didn't push to open schools in the fall because we recognized that this was a deadly pandemic and we weren't able to address openly schools safely. Our schools are crazy overcrowded. There were much bigger community issues - feeding kids.

Monday morning quarterback forgets what it was like in the fall.

We have vaccines now. And more kids are heading back to the buildings. See how that works? Make it safe, kids will go back.

Contrary to your narrative that schools couldn't be opened safely, Rhode Island pushed to open schools and kept them open with VERY low in-school transmission all year. And in fall our numbers were low. And they might have stayed somewhat lower if schools were open, since multiple studies have shown that kids are safer from COVID at school. Read up on some national news sources talking about COVID. This isn't hidden stuff.

This study was available back in July/August as schools were making plans?

Monday morning quarterback.

Here, more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/08/21/coronavirus-child-care-protocols/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_viruschildcare-645pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

“More”? You haven’t provided anything yet.

And this study is about daycare.

Small daycare <> ES school with 700 kids <> MS with 1000 kids <> HS with 2500 kids

Daycare kids are closer together.

But you knew that.

The point is, you have selective amnesia and cannot remember last year. But we can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely understand why teachers need "protection" from parents. Just read this thread! Teachers suck! Teachers aren't working! No raise until 5 days in person! MY kid's teacher is horrible! I know better! Fire them if not in person!!

Most parents are understanding and show grace. The loudmouths who attack teachers are why teachers need a line of defense.

Protection? Protection from the posts on this thread?

Really?

Are you new to DCUM? Teacher bashing is rampant on multiple forums. It’s disgusting.

So therefore teachers need a raise? What?

There are many different topics covered over many different threads. Try to keep up.

This thread is about raises.

You said that someone said something mean on the internet. And teachers need protection from that. Protection in the form of a raise? Protection in the form of a union? Or protection in the form of you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love getting my deserved raise as a hero. I love more seeing fuming parents raging on these boards.

The fact that this is taking place on a snow day is the cherry on top 🥰

Should I open a Cabernet Sauvignon or a Merlot today?

Go ahead and give the raise. A 3% raise doesn’t mean much when you are paid pennies to start with.

Let this loser enjoy her Aldi wine.