APS Return to School Presentation Posted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

That is heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pediatric psych beds are always full. Everywhere. They are impossible to find. Pandemic or no. DL or no. That is a very disingenuous statement if they are trying to connect that to the APS back to school situation.

I work in the behavioral health field, and this is real. I see more parents distress these days because their kids are not coping with DL. Have you seen Bidens pick for the Department of Education, let me ensure you he will make sure ALL kids are back. If you dont believe just check what Connecticut schools are doing where he is coming from. They were hit much harder than little old Arlington.......They will ensure funding is there for supplies and Testing then the excuses run out including the not using the rest room in my own classroom as is the case for pre-k and Kindergarten teachers and some 1st grade, leaving only 2nd grade teachers to share restrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

[Anonymous]

Duran sees the writing on the wall and knows the day is coming where he will need to justify not putting action plans into play,and this is why teachers have to return. Connecticut schools opened in August, and you are right they got hit hard last year.

[Anonymous]

Like many people I don’t have my own classroom and share a tiny office. My hope is that they will have enough spaces available for me to work in a quiet place but I’m not sure they will. Schools with countywide SPED programs have so many employees sharing space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I’m a teacher. I’m not scared of getting CoVID in an empty classroom or worried about the restroom. I feel like Duran wants to do what’s best for the community at this point, so I will teach from home, go in-person, whatever the plan is.

I will say- in my building- I’m wearing a mask when I go back. Custodians, colleagues, whomever will walk in and out of your class whenever, and the HVAC system is useless. I think it’s silly to have to do that without kids in front of me, because it’s going to affect communication. But if it satisfies the “get your ass back to work crowd”...

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I’m a teacher. I’m not scared of getting CoVID in an empty classroom or worried about the restroom. I feel like Duran wants to do what’s best for the community at this point, so I will teach from home, go in-person, whatever the plan is.

I will say- in my building- I’m wearing a mask when I go back. Custodians, colleagues, whomever will walk in and out of your class whenever, and the HVAC system is useless. I think it’s silly to have to do that without kids in front of me, because it’s going to affect communication. But if it satisfies the “get your ass back to work crowd”...

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

Sorry- I was responding to the bathroom post. That wasn’t mine. I have to pee constantly, that would never work for me.

On a more serious note, we have to help these kids, but, when this is all over, I really think we need to get serious in talking about why some of this stuff is happening. I saw it even before the pandemic- this rise in mental health issues among kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I’m a teacher. I’m not scared of getting CoVID in an empty classroom or worried about the restroom. I feel like Duran wants to do what’s best for the community at this point, so I will teach from home, go in-person, whatever the plan is.

I will say- in my building- I’m wearing a mask when I go back. Custodians, colleagues, whomever will walk in and out of your class whenever, and the HVAC system is useless. I think it’s silly to have to do that without kids in front of me, because it’s going to affect communication. But if it satisfies the “get your ass back to work crowd”...

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

Sorry- I was responding to the bathroom post. That wasn’t mine. I have to pee constantly, that would never work for me.

On a more serious note, we have to help these kids, but, when this is all over, I really think we need to get serious in talking about why some of this stuff is happening. I saw it even before the pandemic- this rise in mental health issues among kids.

I’m an adult- look at me on the social media- and even as an educated adult- this is toxic. It gets to me, and it’s compulsive. I’d like to throw that in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

Whatever “ped er”. Increase in child mental health problems could be from parents sick with COVID, economic stresses from job loss, parents fighting over appropriate Covid protocols, and ok and on. Going back to school fixes little of that. Kids aren’t curfewed, parents who are comfortable can have their kids meet up with other kids; parents who aren’t won’t send their kids to school. Correlation is not causation, if the increase in ped mental health is even real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

It’s not about the toilet plume. It’s about the airborne exhalation lingering on a poorly vented space.

As t least teachers have their own bathrooms b/c I would not want to use a student bathroom, i guarantee kids will be taking off their masks in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are always very long waitlists for in patient psyche treatment. Always. Attributing that to APS distance learning is a misleading leap. But that is consistent with the way open schools now advocates employ data.

+1

Remember this case? https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-state-sen-creigh-deeds-files-6m-suit-son-suicide-article-1.2486661

It is insincere and scammy.

Peds ER here. We usually can find a temp bed for kids in normal times until one opens up nearby. We are now sending kids about 600 miles away before we find a spot. The bigger issue though is setting kids up with a provider after presenting in crisis. That is almost impossible to find in a timely manner even where the family has the means to pay. Much younger patients are presenting with suicidal ideation than I’ve ever seen.

I teach in a school in the area that is and has been fully open in person. Some of the strongest advocates for opening were nurses and pediatrician parents, who have seen the many harmful effects on the children.

That is heartbreaking.

??? I don't know a single doctor or nurse, pediatrics or otherwise, advocating for schools to open. All the doctors and nurses I know are refusing to send their kids to school in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a teacher but having teachers in the building without students is dumb as F.

It increases their risk of exposure from other teachers (shared bathrooms, who knows how HVAC works, etc). For freaking theater.

WTF muscle memory? When they can go back safely and teach to students in person, they won’t forget how to stand in front of a whiteboard

Unless they haven't left their house since the pandemic began, this is no more risky than their every day activities.

BS. Shared bathrooms alone make it way way higher. Have you ever used a school bathroom?

DP. I use the school bathroom virtually every time I’m at the school. School bathrooms are about the same as other public bathrooms. Have you not used a public bathroom since March?

I've only used a public bathroom twice since March. Is that weird? I thought most people were avoiding public bathrooms.

Its really not that risky. Its a potential, albeit unlikely path. There are no known cases of toilet plume transmission- but it has been theoretically studied. I think focusing on the bathroom is kind of like washing your groceries- yes there is a theoretical possibility of covid transmission in all the right circumstances- but it extremely unlikely.
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/infectious-disease/COVID-19-bathroom/98/i38

It’s not about the toilet plume. It’s about the airborne exhalation lingering on a poorly vented space.

As t least teachers have their own bathrooms b/c I would not want to use a student bathroom, i guarantee kids will be taking off their masks in there.

I understand that. I’m also a teacher. I’ll be wearing my mask the whole time!