NYC parents vs DC parents

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

That's great if your kid is doing well. Mine is not. Neither are any of my friend's kids. Kids were not meant to learn in this manner. ESPECIALLY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

First off, its K. That means you need to work with them regardless of DL and school - reading, handwriting and basic math. Second, you need to be heavily involved with DL. You are the parent, take responsibility. And, stop having kids.

Stop having kids? As one of the millions of women who have had to quit my job as I can't afford a nanny to take over DL while I work please F off. Women Are Exiting the Labor Force En Masse due to DL and people like you legitimize this.

You piss off and grow up. How did you pay for child care 0-5? You both are working and cannot afford child care and yet you did before? I quit my job when we realized my child had special needs. It sucked but paying a nanny would have cost more than I was earning. We get it. Your kids are trophies so you just want to show them off but not take care of them. Your husband could have quit instead of you. The kids probably would have been better off.

You're gross. Why don't you go back to actually helping our kids learn instead of shaming parents for your own shortcomings. Just shameless.

I am not a teacher nor responsible for your kids but since I successfully taught. One the basics they can come stay here for a while till you decide to be a parent. No one owes you anything. You choose to have kids and you need to parent them. If you cannot, which you are clear about, then someone else needs to step in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a concrete action you can take now:

Each state must submit a plan to the CDC outlining how it will distribute the vaccine and what populations will get it first.

Look up the city’s first iteration of its plan and organize parents to demand that teachers are at the front of the line!!!

The teachers just want a perpetual vacation. Next, they’ll refuse the vaccine so that they can continue sheltering forever. Time to move.

You are wrong to make such a flip blanket statement. Teacher here and this has been as far from a vacation as you can get. It’s awful for the kids, for teachers and for parents. So take your thoughtlessness elsewhere. You are NOT helping.

You just watch. I bet there will be tons of teachers refusing to take the vaccine with the WTU egging them on all along.

Take the vaccine yourself or better stay home so we can pass through this quicker.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

That's great if your kid is doing well. Mine is not. Neither are any of my friend's kids. Kids were not meant to learn in this manner. ESPECIALLY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

First off, its K. That means you need to work with them regardless of DL and school - reading, handwriting and basic math. Second, you need to be heavily involved with DL. You are the parent, take responsibility. And, stop having kids.

Stop having kids? As one of the millions of women who have had to quit my job as I can't afford a nanny to take over DL while I work please F off. Women Are Exiting the Labor Force En Masse due to DL and people like you legitimize this.

You piss off and grow up. How did you pay for child care 0-5? You both are working and cannot afford child care and yet you did before? I quit my job when we realized my child had special needs. It sucked but paying a nanny would have cost more than I was earning. We get it. Your kids are trophies so you just want to show them off but not take care of them. Your husband could have quit instead of you. The kids probably would have been better off.

You're gross. Why don't you go back to actually helping our kids learn instead of shaming parents for your own shortcomings. Just shameless.

I am not a teacher nor responsible for your kids but since I successfully taught. One the basics they can come stay here for a while till you decide to be a parent. No one owes you anything. You choose to have kids and you need to parent them. If you cannot, which you are clear about, then someone else needs to step in.

Again, we don't need a babysitter. For us this is strictly about education. We need schools and teachers that aren't failing our kids with this stupid DL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

That's great if your kid is doing well. Mine is not. Neither are any of my friend's kids. Kids were not meant to learn in this manner. ESPECIALLY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

First off, its K. That means you need to work with them regardless of DL and school - reading, handwriting and basic math. Second, you need to be heavily involved with DL. You are the parent, take responsibility. And, stop having kids.

Stop having kids? As one of the millions of women who have had to quit my job as I can't afford a nanny to take over DL while I work please F off. Women Are Exiting the Labor Force En Masse due to DL and people like you legitimize this.

You piss off and grow up. How did you pay for child care 0-5? You both are working and cannot afford child care and yet you did before? I quit my job when we realized my child had special needs. It sucked but paying a nanny would have cost more than I was earning. We get it. Your kids are trophies so you just want to show them off but not take care of them. Your husband could have quit instead of you. The kids probably would have been better off.

You're gross. Why don't you go back to actually helping our kids learn instead of shaming parents for your own shortcomings. Just shameless.

I am not a teacher nor responsible for your kids but since I successfully taught. One the basics they can come stay here for a while till you decide to be a parent. No one owes you anything. You choose to have kids and you need to parent them. If you cannot, which you are clear about, then someone else needs to step in.

Again, we don't need a babysitter. For us this is strictly about education. We need schools and teachers that aren't failing our kids with this stupid DL.

Actually you do need a babysitter to teach as you are not willing. So, either step up and teach them or pay someone or deal with DL. DL is the way we are educating our kids during a pandemic. Teachers are teaching. Parents like you need to step up and support your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a concrete action you can take now:

Each state must submit a plan to the CDC outlining how it will distribute the vaccine and what populations will get it first.

Look up the city’s first iteration of its plan and organize parents to demand that teachers are at the front of the line!!!

The teachers just want a perpetual vacation. Next, they’ll refuse the vaccine so that they can continue sheltering forever. Time to move.

Harsh but true

[Anonymous]

As a NYC teacher, I am absolutely disgusted by the behavior of parents since the second shutdown on the 18th. If the community wanted open schools then they had a responsibility to keep the virus under control. We’re currently averaging almost 2,000 new cases a day in the city. We just had the day with the most deaths since may this past week. We haven’t even seen the impact of the holiday on the data yet.

Furthermore, there were 3,002 COVID cases among staff and students in the few weeks we were open and 9% of all school buildings were shutdown due to outbreaks the day we closed. Yet parents keep posting “schools are safe! Follow the science! Teachers can’t read!” I’ve read that NYC teachers are “the lepers of our society” and that we are “abandoning their children” and on and on. This is the thanks we get for putting ourselves at risk to open up for their children. I hope that we are DL at least through the new year. I already went to my doctor to get a medical exemption to stay home from now on, and many colleagues have said they’ll do the same now. This isn’t worth it, especially as cases continue to rise and the city threatens to reopen anyway. Any sympathy I had for these parents is gone after reading this vitriol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

NP. Why do you think European countries are keeping their schools open throughout the surge? Why do they lock down other things but not schools? Because any expert will tell you that DL does not work for the vast majority of kids and families, that kids need to be in school and parents need to be able to work without hiring childcare most cannot afford.

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

That's great if your kid is doing well. Mine is not. Neither are any of my friend's kids. Kids were not meant to learn in this manner. ESPECIALLY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

First off, its K. That means you need to work with them regardless of DL and school - reading, handwriting and basic math. Second, you need to be heavily involved with DL. You are the parent, take responsibility. And, stop having kids.

you’re absurd. everyone thinks so.

Its not absurd to work with your kids at home. Its called being a parent.

No, much of what PP described is exactly what used to be a core part of the teacher's job. If you want to roll off your job responsibilities onto parents do we then also get to share part of your salary?

This. Parents know how much work we did to support our children's education pre-pandemic vs post-pandemic. We're doing a lot of the teachers' jobs for them now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

NP. Why do you think European countries are keeping their schools open throughout the surge? Why do they lock down other things but not schools? Because any expert will tell you that DL does not work for the vast majority of kids and families, that kids need to be in school and parents need to be able to work without hiring childcare most cannot afford.

Yes, Europeans consider keeping schools open a matter of educational and generational justice.

[Anonymous]

The constant "schools aren't babysitters" poster(s) are really out of this world. I halfway belief she/they are actually clever DCPS trolls because they are so antipathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I don't "like" it because it's failing a huge proportion of kids. It's not "open" by any meaningful standard.

How do you know its failing a huge proportion of kids?

Everyone knows that.

No, we don't. Some of our kids are doing really well with it. Maybe OP is the problem, not DL.

That's great if your kid is doing well. Mine is not. Neither are any of my friend's kids. Kids were not meant to learn in this manner. ESPECIALLY FOR KINDERGARTEN.

First off, its K. That means you need to work with them regardless of DL and school - reading, handwriting and basic math. Second, you need to be heavily involved with DL. You are the parent, take responsibility. And, stop having kids.

Stop having kids? As one of the millions of women who have had to quit my job as I can't afford a nanny to take over DL while I work please F off. Women Are Exiting the Labor Force En Masse due to DL and people like you legitimize this.

You piss off and grow up. How did you pay for child care 0-5? You both are working and cannot afford child care and yet you did before? I quit my job when we realized my child had special needs. It sucked but paying a nanny would have cost more than I was earning. We get it. Your kids are trophies so you just want to show them off but not take care of them. Your husband could have quit instead of you. The kids probably would have been better off.

You're gross. Why don't you go back to actually helping our kids learn instead of shaming parents for your own shortcomings. Just shameless.

I am not a teacher nor responsible for your kids but since I successfully taught. One the basics they can come stay here for a while till you decide to be a parent. No one owes you anything. You choose to have kids and you need to parent them. If you cannot, which you are clear about, then someone else needs to step in.

Oh you’re annoying boomer aunt Karen. Your comments make so much more sense now. Sorry your one kid is not spending the holidays with you because you’re awful, and Facebook shut down all your Qanon groups, so you have nothing better to do than make constant obnoxious posts on school forums for an area you don’t even live in. Maybe try putting the phone down and going for a walk?

[Anonymous]

How do we know all these "I need my kids out of the house moms" - insert reason - their education; I need to work; its not good for the poor brown kids - aren't actually teenagers trolling on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know all these "I need my kids out of the house moms" - insert reason - their education; I need to work; its not good for the poor brown kids - aren't actually teenagers trolling on DCUM.

What is it you are trying to say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know all these "I need my kids out of the house moms" - insert reason - their education; I need to work; its not good for the poor brown kids - aren't actually teenagers trolling on DCUM.

I literally have not heard a single poster here say "I need my kids out of the house." I've heard many posters claiming that is the motivation of parents who want school to open. But posters have all almost uniformly focused on their kids social and educational needs that are not (cannot be) served in DL. "I need my kids out of the house" is a toxic WTU caricature to deflect blame.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know all these "I need my kids out of the house moms" - insert reason - their education; I need to work; its not good for the poor brown kids - aren't actually teenagers trolling on DCUM.

I literally have not heard a single poster here say "I need my kids out of the house." I've heard many posters claiming that is the motivation of parents who want school to open. But posters have all almost uniformly focused on their kids social and educational needs that are not (cannot be) served in DL. "I need my kids out of the house" is a toxic WTU caricature to deflect blame.

Look back at other threads. The reasons to send kids back as the infection rates soar, people traveling to hot zones for thanksgiving and during flu season have been shifting:
1. I need my kids out of the house
2. Think of how this is hurting poor brown kids I have never known or seen
3. Think of the moms who can't afford a nanny
4. My sped kid can't learn on DL
5. My kid isn't learning from DL
6. If private schools are open why can't we

It changes - they keep shifting the argument to see which one will stick to get them sympathy.