NYC parents vs DC parents

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You do realize that the NYC schools were only open for about six weeks and are now closed right?

Thank-you. I thought OPs post was old. I also read that they are no closed.

You do realize that NYC made every effort to open schools (and did!) and then sabotaged itself by setting a low barrier to closure - 3% positivity rate? Schools should be open, DiBlasio's hubris (or wishful thinking) of setting such a low metric he could not control put him in this situation.

Parents are not united here, teachers/WTU don't understand the science and most are following along like sheep.

Parents in NYC are not united either, there is just a very vocal contingent of (mostly white, wealthy) parents agitating to open schools. Parents in poorer neighborhoods were not sending their kids to in person, largely- many schools where 70-90% of students opted for all virtual learning.

there are definitely prominent black voices supporting school opening, like Nikole Hannah Jones and Dr Uche Blackstock. They are still critical of the mayor and school district, but they are on the side of opening.

[Anonymous]

Our local health metrics were really good for quite a while, so our schools could have opened a little bit early in the summer and then closed again by right around now. That's 3.5 months from early August to mid-November, which would have given our kids almost an entire academic semester of learning. But of course all that would have taken courage on the part of the administration and not just being obstructionist on the part of the teachers ("I DON'T WANNA DIE!!!").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our local health metrics were really good for quite a while, so our schools could have opened a little bit early in the summer and then closed again by right around now. That's 3.5 months from early August to mid-November, which would have given our kids almost an entire academic semester of learning. But of course all that would have taken courage on the part of the administration and not just being obstructionist on the part of the teachers ("I DON'T WANNA DIE!!!").

yeah the lack of courage and willpower is depressing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our local health metrics were really good for quite a while, so our schools could have opened a little bit early in the summer and then closed again by right around now. That's 3.5 months from early August to mid-November, which would have given our kids almost an entire academic semester of learning. But of course all that would have taken courage on the part of the administration and not just being obstructionist on the part of the teachers ("I DON'T WANNA DIE!!!").

Yes but at best for two days a week in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do realize that the NYC schools were only open for about six weeks and are now closed right?

Thank-you. I thought OPs post was old. I also read that they are no closed.

You do realize that NYC made every effort to open schools (and did!) and then sabotaged itself by setting a low barrier to closure - 3% positivity rate? Schools should be open, DiBlasio's hubris (or wishful thinking) of setting such a low metric he could not control put him in this situation.

Parents are not united here, teachers/WTU don't understand the science and most are following along like sheep.

Parents in NYC are not united either, there is just a very vocal contingent of (mostly white, wealthy) parents agitating to open schools. Parents in poorer neighborhoods were not sending their kids to in person, largely- many schools where 70-90% of students opted for all virtual learning.

^^This.

run by a rich white former newscaster because she was doing it for the children

DC parents have been organizing for decades. They just have been poor or lower middle class and brown and black. You know people folks in Ward 3 donate to not actually be friends with. These are people who say "oh where are you from" and when I say DC they go "oh I didn't know they exist" and then I say yeah "they are mostly black so I'm not surprised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

Well, unless they plan on changing their position to supporting some school reopening, I don't see parents jumping on board with the WTU. That said, with the virus increasing and Christmas coming up, there is no possibility of schools opening before a vaccine arrives. None. The only question is how long after a vaccine will school open.

[Anonymous]

I think that some of the muted parent reaction has to do with the saturation of charters. Fewer than half the school-aged kids are enrolled in DCPS, and there isn’t a ton that individual charter schools can do to reopen when the rest of the schools are not. So there isn’t really a good place for parents at individual charter schools to organize.

I also think the time to really organize and agitate was earlier this year. I agree with PP that with the explosion of cases we are anticipating we won’t be open for a while, or at least until a vaccine.

[Anonymous]

Here is a concrete action you can take now:

Each state must submit a plan to the CDC outlining how it will distribute the vaccine and what populations will get it first.

Look up the city’s first iteration of its plan and organize parents to demand that teachers are at the front of the line!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a concrete action you can take now:

Each state must submit a plan to the CDC outlining how it will distribute the vaccine and what populations will get it first.

Look up the city’s first iteration of its plan and organize parents to demand that teachers are at the front of the line!!!

The teachers just want a perpetual vacation. Next, they’ll refuse the vaccine so that they can continue sheltering forever. Time to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

You mean updates from DCPS that 18 CAREs staff have tested positive for COVID-19 and its not public?

Remember you want these CARE classrooms for the poor black and brown kids - who now get to take COVID-19 home to their parents doing shift work because now their kids are in CARE classrooms.

Yeah DCPS has no plan to update people with the public health issues that are the cause for the CARES room to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

Since you hate everybody and everything in DC sounds to me like your time would be better spent packing and moving back to NYC (where everyone and everything are perfect) than whining on an anonymous blog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a native New Yorker, I am completely and totally sick of the Washington Teachers Union/ ELIZABETH DAVIS and her unrealistic notion of virtual school-going forever... My Kindergartener is new to her DCPS school and starting a BRAND NEW SCHOOL VIRTUALLY SUCKS. I hate everything about this. I'm beyond angry at the Mayor and "leadership" but mostly disgusted by the WTU and their complete lack of concern for how badly these new learners in elementary school are going to be behind due to the WTU's BS demands.
NYC managed to get the kids back in school in a much more complicated school district and after a Spring and Summer of MUCH worse conditions than DC but DC teachers can not? The parents in NYC are not standing for the city shutting down the schools and are FIGHTING BACK but in DC? every parent here is too Politically correct and scared to stand up to the WTU and demand we open schools. I'm so sick of this and can't believe parents are just lying down and taking this garbage.

We were at public for 3 years and left for private but I totally agree. I am horrified at the way parents here are lying down and taking it. It’s pathetic. When they tried to close our MoCo private I fought so hard and within days we had won. If parents pushed back as hard as the unions THAT would be something. But I genuinely think they care more about weird virtue signaling than the well being of their kids.

The union is tired of being blamed for this, since they can't make any headway with DCPS their next effort will be to try to mobilize parents through their propaganda. Watch. Teachers are tired of being blamed, the WTU is going to try to bring parents en masse on their side. Personally, I was pissed that our PTA/LSAT forwarded the WTU propaganda.

I hope DCPS continues to push back just as hard, weekly updates about opening of CAREs classrooms might help but as PP said upthread most people only care about their kids - if they have arranged socialization and are supplementing whatever teachers try to push out their kids will be fine.

You mean updates from DCPS that 18 CAREs staff have tested positive for COVID-19 and its not public?

Remember you want these CARE classrooms for the poor black and brown kids - who now get to take COVID-19 home to their parents doing shift work because now their kids are in CARE classrooms.

Yeah DCPS has no plan to update people with the public health issues that are the cause for the CARES room to begin with.

Prove it. And anecdotal reports to the WTU don't count, are not proof, are not reliable, etc. And if you are trying to suggest that assignment to the CARE classroom is where a person contracted the virus, please prove that too.

[Anonymous]

Just wait. The teachers will refuse the vaccine and insist on never going back.