Are your kids' teachers almost all white women?

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

Diversity is not strength. A destructive demoralizing myth.

You must be aware that you are in the minority, in light of most Americans (including a federal judge) favoring affirmative action in order to achieve a more diverse student body.
Please elaborate.

lol a judge?! Majority favors? lol. The masses never know anything at all. Is there a single instance in all of history when a "majority" was correct? The masses that wanted Socrates dead? The masses that wanted Alexander to stop civilizing the world? The masses that persecuted Jesus and early Christians? The masses that resisted rebelling against King George? The masses that didn't want to invade the south in the "Civil" War. The masses all across America that didn't want to fight Germany in either WW because the country is vastly a majority of German heritage? The masses that resisted the civil rights movement? The masses that thought going to the moon was a waste of money? These leaders/heretics/visionaries/brave souls were wrong because "judges" disagreed? Because in the most base form of degenerate governance (democracy) the masses voted against them or tried to humiliate them in their righteous determination? Spare the world from myopic NPCs. Spare us from affirmative actionists. Ward Connerly is a hero.

And any majority that mobilizes to eradicate its own native institutions and culture is likewise retarded.

Unity is strength. Period. Diversity is destruction. Every single culture in the world in all of history has understood this eternal and immutable reality. North American political correctness is our death. It is completely irrefutable. No single civilization has EVER succeeded or survived that was pluralistic. The Center Cannot Hold.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m Black I don’t care the racial make up of DD’s ES school. At this point I just care if they are good effective teachers. She has a large diversity of people in her life, I don’t need the school system for that. I just need them to teach.

+1 from another minority

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Anonymous wrote:We live in DC. At least 80% of teachers at our neighborhood school are black, including a couple of black male teachers. The gym teacher’s a white guy.

We switched to a private for immersion. There is not a single non-white teacher that I’ve seen at the lower school except the gym teacher, who is a black male. Pretty much all support staff are black, but no main teachers. We’re black and don’t love this, but we have a lot of black role models in our kid’s life otherwise, so we’re making do for now. I know the school is also looking at diversity among staff given recent national events. We’ll reevaluate for middle/high school.

*PE Teacher. I hope you don’t call him a gym teacher to his face.

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If you want non white role models, take your kid to a non white pediatrician. That’s a better aspirational model than a teacher.

If you want a teacher who can relate to your child’s cultural norms, that may not be based on race.

If you want a teacher who LOOKs like your kid, homeschool.

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95% of all staff in my kids school are white females.
At his last school (we moved) he had a male PE coach he LOVED but now he has a woman.
This school has a male 4th and 6th grade teacher as well as a guidance counselor who is male. There are male janitors and stuff but everyone else are white women.

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Off topic, but I'll add, my son has had female pediatricians and dentists since birth and one day when he was around 4 or so we were leaving the dentist and he says "mom, do you think a boy could be a dentist or dr?"
My heart melted because he had just assumed they all were female.

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

DP. It’s an extremely limited range of experiences.

Even if the student body was all little white girls, kids need to be exposed to a much wider variety of role models.

DP So why not encourage Black and other minorities to become teachers? Why do you have to tear down white women? Oh yes, this is the year of "Karen" and the fact that the majority of white women are the enemy

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Any person in any marginalized group can tell you that representation is important. Having role models that you identify with gives you a vision of success. In my own experience as an openly gay teacher I have had more LGBT students than you could imagine write me letters or communicate in some other way, telling me explicitly that they thought they had no future because that’s what their family told them. They had me and realized that being lgbt didn’t prevent them from having a future and a happy and fulfilled adult life.

Not only do my personal experiences show that representation matters, but it is supported by research. Black students who have one black teacher before 3rd grade are 13% more likely to graduate from college. Black students that have two black teachers are 32% more likely. https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2018-11-23/black-teachers-improve-outcomes-for-black-students?context=amp

That is hard to believe. So all we have to do is have black teachers teach black kids and that will basically solve half of the problem. Reminds me of the "studies" saying that women get paid 60% less than men. Just think of the massive profit margins if you only hired women! Cha Ching!!

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

Hey angry lady. One of those studies has major flaws. You would know that if you actually read the study. Both you and I know the one way to change this huge problem. Get your angry self off of social media and do something constructive like TEACH.

Hey Unoriginal Ignoramus, I do TEACH and have done so for the past 17 years, first at the elementary and then the graduate level. Try again.

Np If you don't share the information that you teach how is the pp an ignoramus? We aren't mind readers.

The teaching profession needs to become more valued and one way to do it is improve education by accepting the top students, improving the curriculum for teachers and pay them more.

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I think what's more harmful is the fact that they're mostly women. When I was in school, it was all women except for the science classes which were men. I feel like that did a lot to stereotype how we felt about english majors were for women and physics for men.

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

DP. It’s an extremely limited range of experiences.

Even if the student body was all little white girls, kids need to be exposed to a much wider variety of role models.

DP So why not encourage Black and other minorities to become teachers? Why do you have to tear down white women? Oh yes, this is the year of "Karen" and the fact that the majority of white women are the enemy

If only it were that easy to obtain a diversity in colleges..

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We purposely chose a school that was diverse, including both staff and students. Our kids have had teachers of all races, teachers from different countries, teachers with heavier accents, etc. They haven't had as many male teachers as I would like, but they have had some. We also try to seek out other diverse professionals- such as doctors, dentists, etc. And we keep a rotation of babysitters that include diverse sitters.

It may take a bit more purposeful behavior- but it is possible- especially in the DC metro area. If you are not exposing your children to diverse adults/children on a frequent basis, you should probably reevaluate your life.

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Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

So you’re part of the problem then.

Too many white women and so some should leave. Why don’t you go first?

hahaha perfect, you liberal suburban white women are finally getting yours. Equity now! Feel the heat from the burner you all turned on high.

I’m the mocked poster. It’s silly to not acknowledge that the fact that my 95% minority school is led by 90% white women teachers. That affects my students in myriad ways, and increasing representation among our staff would benefit our students. Our HS has a future educators branch and I’m excited to see how many of our students are going into teaching, as it is proof that my district’s focus on increasing representation in the last ten years is bearing some fruit.

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Boys suffer from no male role models in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys suffer from no male role models in schools.

That has been our experience. I wish more men were encouraged to get into education.

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

OP - use your head. The demographics of each generation is changing. Since teachers come from an older demographic, whites are still the majority. It will change in the future. But you should also understand that people can learn from someone who doesn't share their skin color.

Teaching is lagging behind in this.

My kids had a black pediatrician, black pediatric dentist, and Latina allergist but most white ES teachers. It’s harder to become a doctor than a teacher, but more minorities are chose medicine.

Those professions pay more. It’s not surprising that a group with less inherited wealth might (because I don’t know the numbers) be more motivated to go for more money.

I think there are still a fair percentage of black female teachers overall

This. White women can (on average) afford to take lower paying jobs.