Are your kids' teachers almost all white women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Any person in any marginalized group can tell you that representation is important. Having role models that you identify with gives you a vision of success. In my own experience as an openly gay teacher I have had more LGBT students than you could imagine write me letters or communicate in some other way, telling me explicitly that they thought they had no future because that’s what their family told them. They had me and realized that being lgbt didn’t prevent them from having a future and a happy and fulfilled adult life.

Not only do my personal experiences show that representation matters, but it is supported by research. Black students who have one black teacher before 3rd grade are 13% more likely to graduate from college. Black students that have two black teachers are 32% more likely. https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2018-11-23/black-teachers-improve-outcomes-for-black-students?context=amp

That is hard to believe. So all we have to do is have black teachers teach black kids and that will basically solve half of the problem. Reminds me of the "studies" saying that women get paid 60% less than men. Just think of the massive profit margins if you only hired women! Cha Ching!!

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

Hey angry lady. One of those studies has major flaws. You would know that if you actually read the study. Both you and I know the one way to change this huge problem. Get your angry self off of social media and do something constructive like TEACH.

Np here- always goes to the default of the "angry black woman"

Well said previous pp

~ signed a black woman with a daughter who wants her hair to look like Larlas straight blond ponytail everyday. Would love to have any AA representation at her school!

Why don’t you live where you are zoned for a school with black children?

[Anonymous]

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

[Anonymous]

My kids' ES teachers have been white (3), asian (1), and black (1). Their principal and vice principal are black. And almost all of the aftercare staff are black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Any person in any marginalized group can tell you that representation is important. Having role models that you identify with gives you a vision of success. In my own experience as an openly gay teacher I have had more LGBT students than you could imagine write me letters or communicate in some other way, telling me explicitly that they thought they had no future because that’s what their family told them. They had me and realized that being lgbt didn’t prevent them from having a future and a happy and fulfilled adult life.

Not only do my personal experiences show that representation matters, but it is supported by research. Black students who have one black teacher before 3rd grade are 13% more likely to graduate from college. Black students that have two black teachers are 32% more likely. https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2018-11-23/black-teachers-improve-outcomes-for-black-students?context=amp

That is hard to believe. So all we have to do is have black teachers teach black kids and that will basically solve half of the problem. Reminds me of the "studies" saying that women get paid 60% less than men. Just think of the massive profit margins if you only hired women! Cha Ching!!

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

Hey angry lady. One of those studies has major flaws. You would know that if you actually read the study. Both you and I know the one way to change this huge problem. Get your angry self off of social media and do something constructive like TEACH.

Np here- always goes to the default of the "angry black woman"

Well said previous pp

~ signed a black woman with a daughter who wants her hair to look like Larlas straight blond ponytail everyday. Would love to have any AA representation at her school!

Larla!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

Diversity is not strength. A destructive demoralizing myth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

How old are you? Give the iPad back to your parents and they should hopefully be able to explain to you why it’s a problem.
-white woman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

Diversity is not strength. A destructive demoralizing myth.

You must be aware that you are in the minority, in light of most Americans (including a federal judge) favoring affirmative action in order to achieve a more diverse student body.
Please elaborate.

[Anonymous]

We live in DC. At least 80% of teachers at our neighborhood school are black, including a couple of black male teachers. The gym teacher’s a white guy.

We switched to a private for immersion. There is not a single non-white teacher that I’ve seen at the lower school except the gym teacher, who is a black male. Pretty much all support staff are black, but no main teachers. We’re black and don’t love this, but we have a lot of black role models in our kid’s life otherwise, so we’re making do for now. I know the school is also looking at diversity among staff given recent national events. We’ll reevaluate for middle/high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in DC. At least 80% of teachers at our neighborhood school are black, including a couple of black male teachers. The gym teacher’s a white guy.

We switched to a private for immersion. There is not a single non-white teacher that I’ve seen at the lower school except the gym teacher, who is a black male. Pretty much all support staff are black, but no main teachers. We’re black and don’t love this, but we have a lot of black role models in our kid’s life otherwise, so we’re making do for now. I know the school is also looking at diversity among staff given recent national events. We’ll reevaluate for middle/high school.

I forgot to say that our kid’s teacher the last two years had been a youngish male teacher who has been great. Also love the male role model aspect—helps show that males can be nurturing, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

So you’re part of the problem then.

Too many white women and so some should leave. Why don’t you go first?

[Anonymous]

I’m Black I don’t care the racial make up of DD’s ES school. At this point I just care if they are good effective teachers. She has a large diversity of people in her life, I don’t need the school system for that. I just need them to teach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

So you’re part of the problem then.

Too many white women and so some should leave. Why don’t you go first?

hahaha perfect, you liberal suburban white women are finally getting yours. Equity now! Feel the heat from the burner you all turned on high.