Are your kids' teachers almost all white women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys suffer from no male role models in schools.

That has been our experience. I wish more men were encouraged to get into education.

Yeah, maybe, but out of the 10 or so problematic teachers I’ve had over my school years, 10 of them were men.

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I have a friend in education that says her male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity.

That actually explains the existence of my kids’ current principal...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend in education that says her male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity.

That actually explains the existence of my kids’ current principal...

Some say that is also true for other beneficiaries of diversity programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want non white role models, take your kid to a non white pediatrician. That’s a better aspirational model than a teacher.

If you want a teacher who can relate to your child’s cultural norms, that may not be based on race.

If you want a teacher who LOOKs like your kid, homeschool.

Why? We're supposed to aspire to a diverse student body (look at all the discussion around affirmative action) but not to a diverse body of teachers and school staff?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

OP - use your head. The demographics of each generation is changing. Since teachers come from an older demographic, whites are still the majority. It will change in the future. But you should also understand that people can learn from someone who doesn't share their skin color.

Teaching is lagging behind in this.

My kids had a black pediatrician, black pediatric dentist, and Latina allergist but most white ES teachers. It’s harder to become a doctor than a teacher, but more minorities are chose medicine.

Those professions pay more. It’s not surprising that a group with less inherited wealth might (because I don’t know the numbers) be more motivated to go for more money.

I think there are still a fair percentage of black female teachers overall

This. White women can (on average) afford to take lower paying jobs.

This is complete bullshit. Go tell white men they can afford to take lower paying jobs, see how much traction you get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want non white role models, take your kid to a non white pediatrician. That’s a better aspirational model than a teacher.

If you want a teacher who can relate to your child’s cultural norms, that may not be based on race.

If you want a teacher who LOOKs like your kid, homeschool.

Why? We're supposed to aspire to a diverse student body (look at all the discussion around affirmative action) but not to a diverse body of teachers and school staff?

Newsflash: not all kids look like their parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want non white role models, take your kid to a non white pediatrician. That’s a better aspirational model than a teacher.

If you want a teacher who can relate to your child’s cultural norms, that may not be based on race.

If you want a teacher who LOOKs like your kid, homeschool.

Why? We're supposed to aspire to a diverse student body (look at all the discussion around affirmative action) but not to a diverse body of teachers and school staff?

Newsflash: not all kids look like their parents.

Is that an answer to the question of why you should homeschool if you want a teacher who looks like your non-white kid?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

Diversity is not strength. A destructive demoralizing myth.

You must be aware that you are in the minority, in light of most Americans (including a federal judge) favoring affirmative action in order to achieve a more diverse student body.
Please elaborate.

lol a judge?! Majority favors? lol. The masses never know anything at all. Is there a single instance in all of history when a "majority" was correct? The masses that wanted Socrates dead? The masses that wanted Alexander to stop civilizing the world? The masses that persecuted Jesus and early Christians? The masses that resisted rebelling against King George? The masses that didn't want to invade the south in the "Civil" War. The masses all across America that didn't want to fight Germany in either WW because the country is vastly a majority of German heritage? The masses that resisted the civil rights movement? The masses that thought going to the moon was a waste of money? These leaders/heretics/visionaries/brave souls were wrong because "judges" disagreed? Because in the most base form of degenerate governance (democracy) the masses voted against them or tried to humiliate them in their righteous determination? Spare the world from myopic NPCs. Spare us from affirmative actionists. Ward Connerly is a hero.

And any majority that mobilizes to eradicate its own native institutions and culture is likewise retarded.

Unity is strength. Period. Diversity is destruction. Every single culture in the world in all of history has understood this eternal and immutable reality. North American political correctness is our death. It is completely irrefutable. No single civilization has EVER succeeded or survived that was pluralistic. The Center Cannot Hold.

We used to have the idea that immigrants should assimilate, speak English, adopt the culture.

UNITY.

Now that's considered racist and America is becoming lots of little, somewhat insular nations instead of one people of different colors and heritages.

If we aren't one, we won't last.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend in education that says her male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity.

That actually explains the existence of my kids’ current principal...

Some say that is also true for other beneficiaries of diversity programs.

Racist how dare you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend in education that says her male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity.

That actually explains the existence of my kids’ current principal...

This. Happens in libraries too.
Also men tend to be pursuing money more, and try for the promotions.

[Anonymous]

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Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

So you’re part of the problem then.

Too many white women and so some should leave. Why don’t you go first?

hahaha perfect, you liberal suburban white women are finally getting yours. Equity now! Feel the heat from the burner you all turned on high.

I’m the mocked poster. It’s silly to not acknowledge that the fact that my 95% minority school is led by 90% white women teachers. That affects my students in myriad ways, and increasing representation among our staff would benefit our students. Our HS has a future educators branch and I’m excited to see how many of our students are going into teaching, as it is proof that my district’s focus on increasing representation in the last ten years is bearing some fruit.

You've acknowledge it but you won't give up anything to change it.

I guess we have our answer to the reparations question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend in education that says her male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity.

That actually explains the existence of my kids’ current principal...

Some say that is also true for other beneficiaries of diversity programs.

Racist how dare you?

I'm sure you must be equally outraged at the sexism of "male coworkers and subordinates are often duds who fail upward because schools desperately want to hire them for the diversity"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

Why is it a problem that your teachers are mostly white women?

Seriously. The majority of people who go into teaching are white women. Are you saying that schools should go out of their way to favor non white females?

My own opinion (as a minority) is no but just for the sake of argument, why not?
Wouldn't a diverse teaching body merit a school the same way a diverse student body merits colleges that practice affirmative action?

Neither idea has merit.

DP
So you’re against both?

Diversity is not strength. A destructive demoralizing myth.

You must be aware that you are in the minority, in light of most Americans (including a federal judge) favoring affirmative action in order to achieve a more diverse student body.
Please elaborate.

lol a judge?! Majority favors? lol. The masses never know anything at all. Is there a single instance in all of history when a "majority" was correct? The masses that wanted Socrates dead? The masses that wanted Alexander to stop civilizing the world? The masses that persecuted Jesus and early Christians? The masses that resisted rebelling against King George? The masses that didn't want to invade the south in the "Civil" War. The masses all across America that didn't want to fight Germany in either WW because the country is vastly a majority of German heritage? The masses that resisted the civil rights movement? The masses that thought going to the moon was a waste of money? These leaders/heretics/visionaries/brave souls were wrong because "judges" disagreed? Because in the most base form of degenerate governance (democracy) the masses voted against them or tried to humiliate them in their righteous determination? Spare the world from myopic NPCs. Spare us from affirmative actionists. Ward Connerly is a hero.

And any majority that mobilizes to eradicate its own native institutions and culture is likewise retarded.

Unity is strength. Period. Diversity is destruction. Every single culture in the world in all of history has understood this eternal and immutable reality. North American political correctness is our death. It is completely irrefutable. No single civilization has EVER succeeded or survived that was pluralistic. The Center Cannot Hold.

We used to have the idea that immigrants should assimilate, speak English, adopt the culture.

UNITY.

Now that's considered racist and America is becoming lots of little, somewhat insular nations instead of one people of different colors and heritages.

If we aren't one, we won't last.

I don't want to be "one" with you or the PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why? Because you are white and have never had to think about the importance of representation where your children are concerned? Because it makes you feel more comfortable to discredit what another person has shared so that you can remain in your ignorant bubble? Your quick and easy dismissal of the facts around race and equity are why people like you will never be true allies of people of color (although perhaps that has never been an interest of yours). Simply put, it is important for a child to 'see' themselves in those who are in a position of power or authority so that they know that they too can strive to those same respectable heights. It does a Black child no good to see the only Black staff at their school represented on the janitorial crew. It does a Hispanic child no good to see only Hispanic staff on the cleaning or lunch crew (these are real life examples from my own child's school by the way, before I am accused of stereotyping). White parents have the luxury of not having to think about these issues because they are so used to having their white kids see themselves in damn near everything. It's 2020. Try and get out of your bubble and aim a bit higher when it comes to these issues. Your children will benefit from it. Also, don't come at me with any type of foolish protestation or defense because there is none to be had. Your stance and mindset is embarrassing, shameful and pathetic.

Signed, Black Woman Who Is Over White Fragility And Willful Ignorance

This. Exactly this. (I'm a white woman teacher, but I see how the makeup of my staff is incredibly problematic for my students).

So you’re part of the problem then.

Too many white women and so some should leave. Why don’t you go first?

hahaha perfect, you liberal suburban white women are finally getting yours. Equity now! Feel the heat from the burner you all turned on high.

I’m the mocked poster. It’s silly to not acknowledge that the fact that my 95% minority school is led by 90% white women teachers. That affects my students in myriad ways, and increasing representation among our staff would benefit our students. Our HS has a future educators branch and I’m excited to see how many of our students are going into teaching, as it is proof that my district’s focus on increasing representation in the last ten years is bearing some fruit.

You've acknowledge it but you won't give up anything to change it.

I guess we have our answer to the reparations question.

What exactly should she give up? Her JOB?
And what does reparations have to do with it? What form of reparations are you talking about? How does it relate to recruiting teachers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my child's ES, which is 60% minorities, almost all the teachers are caucasian women. She's been through three grades there. All 5 K teachers were white women. 4/5 of the 1st grade teachers were white women. All 5 2nd grade teachers were white women. And I know this is the same across the country. How can we, as a nation, change this?

OP - use your head. The demographics of each generation is changing. Since teachers come from an older demographic, whites are still the majority. It will change in the future. But you should also understand that people can learn from someone who doesn't share their skin color.

Teaching is lagging behind in this.

My kids had a black pediatrician, black pediatric dentist, and Latina allergist but most white ES teachers. It’s harder to become a doctor than a teacher, but more minorities are chose medicine.

Those professions pay more. It’s not surprising that a group with less inherited wealth might (because I don’t know the numbers) be more motivated to go for more money.

I think there are still a fair percentage of black female teachers overall

We also mostly marry black men who are not the highest category in regards to college graduates and earners in this country.

I make over 4 times more money than my dh. If we made equal pay, we'd definitely would not be able to switch from public to private like we just did, even with financial aid.

Versus my white friend who is cutting back work because her husband was just hired for a 300k job.

Sometimes black females have to pick up the financial slack- and a teaching salary won't cut it in those situations

Another black lady here. I outearned my black XH too who, coincidentally, was a teacher with a masters degree (I don't have post-graduate degree). He had other (all legal!) hustles to bring in more money though. Brother is a teacher and his wife (white) outearns him, too. Growing up mom was a teacher and dad was the $100K job earner.