Racist incident in downtown Bethesda yesterday?

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

Yikes. If it doesn’t cover “hate speech” why even have it? It’s not there to protect innocuous speech. Threats of violence are different of course, but I didn’t see such a threat here. I saw a loony, over-stressed, wack job yelling offensively at some lady, but no actual threat of violence. And I didn’t see what came before.

[Anonymous]

What part of ‘do you want to fight” isn’t a threat

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that when the man walked up, he suddenly lost his desire to fight.

What a POS

POS, sure. But it didn't really look like he had any intention of fighting. He said do you want to fight and took a step or two out of his car, but it looked like he stopped before the other person got involved. While one can never know how it would have played out, it did not seem like a situation where there was going to be an actual physical altercation.

Gee whiz. The solidarity amongst some white people is unmatched! Even when it's clear as day your brethren are wrong--- they are somehow still made right. If it weren't so disgusting, the unity would be admirable.

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What's up with people protecting obvious racism?

Calling some a POS shit is hardly showing solidarity with someone or protecting him. I'm assuming if someone calls you a POS or said you acted like a POS, you wouldn't be pleased or view that as approval of your behavior. I sure know that if someone is expressing solidarity or support for me, I would like them to do it in some way other than calling me a POS.

Whether said POS actually intended to or would have harmed the woman is an entirely separate question.

Calling him a POS but then turning around and rationalizing what he did voided your POS statement. You only added the POS part to make it appear that you weren't ok with what he did-- you know, in case your IP address is being tracked or something. Know one calls someone a POS and follows it up with an excuse for the person. POS is a full sentence with a period at the end.

I didn't rationalize what he did at all. Nor did I excuse what he did in any manner. You are simply making stuff up to better fit your narrative.

I am not the OP you replied to. I am not why you keep defending this racist POS. Let it go. He is a racist and a POS. End of sentence.

I haven't defended him at all. That is why I am replying.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

"hate speech" is protested by the 1st amendment, and that has been upheld by the Supreme Court numerous times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,speech%20under%20the%20First%20Amendment.

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Anonymous wrote:What part of ‘do you want to fight” isn’t a threat

What part is? He then stayed protected behind his car. She then approached him.

Again, not defending the over-stressed miscreant, but it wasn't a threat. You'd like it to be, but it wasn't.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

"hate speech" is protested by the 1st amendment, and that has been upheld by the Supreme Court numerous times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,speech%20under%20the%20First%20Amendment.

Common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury.

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Dollars to donuts this guy is a registered Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

"hate speech" is protested by the 1st amendment, and that has been upheld by the Supreme Court numerous times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,speech%20under%20the%20First%20Amendment.

Common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury.

I don't think what he said qualifies as either of those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Disgusting.

Someone send this to Popville. Track this piece of crap down. He shouldn't be hard to find. Sounds like he's drinking 6 cans a day and smoking even more.

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TRACK HIM AND SHAME HIM.

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Anonymous wrote:Dollars to donuts this guy is a registered Democrat.

Nope. He is a Republican. Trump supporter.

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Anonymous wrote:Dollars to donuts this guy is a registered Democrat.

Nope. He is a Republican. Trump supporter.

DP. In Bethesda? Based on demographics alone, the odds are against you.

The woman in central park is a democrat and in all likelihood, so is this guy.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

"hate speech" is protested by the 1st amendment, and that has been upheld by the Supreme Court numerous times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,speech%20under%20the%20First%20Amendment.

Common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury.

I don't think what he said qualifies as either of those.

Well don’t worry what you think isn’t relevant. Hopefully she’ll file a report and the appropriate authorities will make that assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Youwwwr not my mothahh!” This has so many layers of Freudian rage I can’t even handle

Mother? Is that you, Mother? I will be a good boy, Mother! Forgive me...forgive me, Mama!

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Anonymous wrote:We need to confront this kind of thing EVERY time it happens, just like the woman who was standing up for herself and her son as well as the man who told him to get in the car and go. The response needs to be swift and immediate.

Something similar happened to me in Bethesda (I'm a woman). I look like a Latina, but I'm not. I was in a crowded garage downtown Bethesda and pulled into a parking space. A man who thought the same space belonged to him although there was no physical way for him to pull into that space started SCREAMING at me, cursing, gesturing, signaling that he is going to get out of his car to attack me physically. Another man spetted in and told the guy to get in the car and leave. It was immediately done.

Two things, piss me off about both incidents. The racial component, but also men attacking women thinking that we will just back down. However, these p8ssies back down really fast when a man steps in because, as predicted, they are not brave or dangerous at all.

What should the response be? Public outcry/shaming? Him losing his job? Criminal charges? Something else.

All of the above. Laws need to be updated to include punishment for this kind of behavior.

But just like the bystanders did here, film it and publically shame these racist morons.

Thankfully we have the 1st amendment to override such laws, if they were to be passed. The government doesn't need to be policing speech, no matter how idiotic it is.

Really? The first amendment covers hate speech and threats of violence? I wasn't aware.

"hate speech" is protested by the 1st amendment, and that has been upheld by the Supreme Court numerous times:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20Supreme%20Court%20has,speech%20under%20the%20First%20Amendment.

Common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury.

I don't think what he said qualifies as either of those.

Well don’t worry what you think isn’t relevant. Hopefully she’ll file a report and the appropriate authorities will make that assessment.

DP. It's definitely not incitement. There is some USSC language that would support it being "fighting words" because it was arguably quite literally "an invitation to exchange fisticuffs." https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/491/397

But I am pretty sure that isn't how that has been interpreted. Bringing a case based on these circumstances is going to be very difficult.

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Anonymous wrote:Dollars to donuts this guy is a registered Democrat.

And a Jewish liberal... Lived in Bethesda since early 90's and the majority of the white old men are angry triggered liberals