This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where I live in Virginia there is a pharmacy which also has a big nice gift shop. Because the pharmacy is open gift shop items can be sold. But stand alone gift shops cannot be open. There is a hardware store which also has a general merchandise section with lots of craft supplies. Because the hardware store us essential business, the craft supplies can be sold but a craft shop cannot be open.

This is arbitrary in Virginia.

What’s a stand alone gift shop? I’m guessing you’re talking about Cherrydale?

Um, any Hallmark store?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ I think you'll see landscapers, other outdoor workers (pest control, pool maintenance), low density service industry (car repair), and food spots open up soon. They will just need to ensure they have the protocols in place to maintain strict social distancing.”

Several of those services have already been open and never closed.

+1 I know for a fact that landscapers, car repair and pest control have been open this entire time. I’m in Maryland which is pretty strict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

I’m lost. Who was it who said “density is the solution to all our problems”?

Look at the Real Estate board, which seems to be an auxiliary to the GGW crowd.

This. And other boards as well. I’m in MoCo and there are some high density living supporters on the MCPS forum.

There has been a huge push for more high density housing in MoCo in the past decade. Lots of developers and others who claim that high density housing will solve the affordable housing problem and save the environment because of the focus on transit (which never pans out because nobody actually gets rid of their car - you just now end up with MORE cars).

[Anonymous]

Well it has gotten super hot in some of those states already- high 90s in Miami this week! Yuck but summer virus reprieve is fast approaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well it has gotten super hot in some of those states already- high 90s in Miami this week! Yuck but summer virus reprieve is fast approaching.

Sure. Right. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-singapore-lost-control-second-wave-2020-4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

CA-OR-WAS as one new "country"
MN-WI-IL-MI-OH as another
MA-CT-NY-NJ-DE-PA-DC-VA as another
TX has always had the right to declare its independance.

That is about 76% of the US GDP.

IF those states are all in pacts among themselves and with each other, it doesn't leave very much for the rest, right?

So sure, let's continue to divide with the rhetoric as Sen McConnell seems to want to do, and as the OP seems to want to do, and let's see where MS/LA/AL/OK/SC all end up. Especially during hurricane and tornado seasons.

I'd rather have all those above listed states join Canada as one. Make a new superpower and let the inbred hicks in red states to have what they always wanted: a neo-confederate, theocratic, economic wasteland where they are free to be as racist, misogynist, and anti-science as they want, free from the evil Socialism and government handouts that are the tax dollars from blue states propping them up.

Let's lose the vile taker states.

New multi-state 'death-pact'

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/04/21/southern-governors-create-a-covid-19-coalition-and-experts-fear-a-perfect-storm-1278753


I guess we can plan for the surrender at Appomattox. But hey, they'll dominate in football!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ I think you'll see landscapers, other outdoor workers (pest control, pool maintenance), low density service industry (car repair), and food spots open up soon. They will just need to ensure they have the protocols in place to maintain strict social distancing.”

Several of those services have already been open and never closed.

+1 I know for a fact that landscapers, car repair and pest control have been open this entire time. I’m in Maryland which is pretty strict.

In Maryland, most of this is already open, just social distancing, car pickup or delivery instead of crowding inside. Ally neighbors landscapers are still coming and blowing their infernal blowers all day long.

In Georgia, all those people who will soon be eating in restaurants, going to the movies and getting tattoos and haircuts will be taking one for the team. Good luck with that!

[Anonymous]

40% of Kentucky's GDP comes from Federal funds.

McConnell can go eff himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

I’m lost. Who was it who said “density is the solution to all our problems”?

Look at the Real Estate board, which seems to be an auxiliary to the GGW crowd.

This. And other boards as well. I’m in MoCo and there are some high density living supporters on the MCPS forum.

There has been a huge push for more high density housing in MoCo in the past decade. Lots of developers and others who claim that high density housing will solve the affordable housing problem and save the environment because of the focus on transit (which never pans out because nobody actually gets rid of their car - you just now end up with MORE cars).

Ok...and? No one claimed it’s “the solution to all our problems”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

CA-OR-WAS as one new "country"
MN-WI-IL-MI-OH as another
MA-CT-NY-NJ-DE-PA-DC-VA as another
TX has always had the right to declare its independance.

That is about 76% of the US GDP.

IF those states are all in pacts among themselves and with each other, it doesn't leave very much for the rest, right?

So sure, let's continue to divide with the rhetoric as Sen McConnell seems to want to do, and as the OP seems to want to do, and let's see where MS/LA/AL/OK/SC all end up. Especially during hurricane and tornado seasons.

I'd rather have all those above listed states join Canada as one. Make a new superpower and let the inbred hicks in red states to have what they always wanted: a neo-confederate, theocratic, economic wasteland where they are free to be as racist, misogynist, and anti-science as they want, free from the evil Socialism and government handouts that are the tax dollars from blue states propping them up.

Let's lose the vile taker states.

New multi-state 'death-pact'

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/04/21/southern-governors-create-a-covid-19-coalition-and-experts-fear-a-perfect-storm-1278753


I guess we can plan for the surrender at Appomattox. But hey, they'll dominate in football!

Wow. "
"As of Tuesday morning, the six states had collectively tested about one-tenth of 1 percent of their total populations. Mississippi, which ranks 15th nationally in testing, had the group’s best testing rate at 1.7 percent of its population. Georgia was the lowest, with a testing rate of less than one one-hundredth of 1 percent, or 42nd in the country, according to the Covid Tracking Project."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op, you post makes no sense. The states you’ve named with high infections are red states. I’m confused.

Read: Best; instead of “highest”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

I’m lost. Who was it who said “density is the solution to all our problems”?

Bookmarked!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

So who's got things under control? (I don't have death rates, sorry...)

This is week-over-week numbers from worldometer measuring the % increase in case numbers between 4/15 and 4/22. I haven't been keeping track of past death numbers however.

Losing control (at least temporarily):
NE: 47.490%
IA: 46.772%
ND: 46.244%
OH: 44.811%
RI: 39.582%
SD: 37.137%
DE: 37.063%
VA: 36.684%
KS: 35.520%

Gaining control (at least temporarily, but both states are testing extensively):
LA: 13.093%
WA: 12.678%
ID: 11.931%
HI: 10.473%
MT: 7.973%
VT: 7.776%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So who's got things under control? (I don't have death rates, sorry...)

This is week-over-week numbers from worldometer measuring the % increase in case numbers between 4/15 and 4/22. I haven't been keeping track of past death numbers however.

Losing control (at least temporarily):
NE: 47.490%
IA: 46.772%
ND: 46.244%
OH: 44.811%
RI: 39.582%
SD: 37.137%
DE: 37.063%
VA: 36.684%
KS: 35.520%

Gaining control (at least temporarily, but both states are testing extensively):
LA: 13.093%
WA: 12.678%
ID: 11.931%
HI: 10.473%
MT: 7.973%
VT: 7.776%

It would be great to see numbers that show the change in testing rates, for each state, as well.

[Anonymous]

It would be great to see numbers that show the change in testing rates, for each state, as well.

Losing control (at least temporarily):
NE: 47.490%
Positive test 11-12% and overall test rate 899.190 per 100k people (national rate 1322.345 per 100k)

IA: 46.772%
Positive test 13% or so and test rate 895.194 per 100k

ND: 46.244%
Positive test 4-5% or so and test rate 2045.634 per 100k

OH: 44.811%
Positive test 16% or so and test rate 838.371

RI: 39.582%
Positive test 17% or so and test rate 3938.412

SD: 37.137%
Positive test 15% or so and test rate 1448.581

DE: 37.063%
Positive test 19% or so and test rate 1699.899
(NB Sussex county seems to be harder hit than New Castle County - this is a rural outbreak here)

VA: 36.684%
Positive test 17% or so and test rate 712.060

KS: 35.520%
Positive test 12% or so and test rate 655.645

Gaining control (at least temporarily, but both states are testing extensively):
LA: 13.093%
Positive test rate about 14% and test rates well north of the average (3047.5 vs 1322.345 tests per 100k)

WA: 12.678%
Positive test rate 8% and overall test rates of 1942.943 per 100k

ID: 11.931%
ID has a positive test rate ~10% and a test rate a bit below the average (1012.340 vs 1322.345)

HI: 10.473%
HI has a positive test rate ~2% and a test rate above the average (1861.891)

MT: 7.973%
MT: positive test rate ~4% and a test rate slightly below the average (but with that low of a positive test rate it may not be needed) (1083.761)

VT: 7.776%
VT: positive rate ~6% and a test rate well above the average (2157.410)

Now I claim zilch about a state's ability to handle a surge in need for testing. MD with its 500k test kids on the way might be able to launch a useful trace + test routine and pull off what WA and LA have been pulling.

But I'm somewhat worried about states with low test rates and high growth trajectories. States with low positive test rates and low growth are probably fully legit.

Also a higher test rate probably means more SBD carriers are "caught" - if say my wife gets sick and in one state only she gets tested - in another state maybe me + the whole family - in yet another me + the whole family + my officemate + the other four members of my six-person team (I'm still going in). Lower test rates mean there's a higher # of SBD (silent but deadly) folks running around.

No way of knowing whether the COVID 19 variant A is harmless but gives protection against COVID 19 variant B or if variant A just means one variant B virus shows up and you're dead. Ideally if 19a gives you immunity against the other members of the family this might make vaccine production easy peasy as you just need to grow something already there as opposed to fashion entirely new molecules, antibodies, etc. (I stand to be corrected here.)

It does seem the preponderance of evidence is that there are numerous variants but not sure of how that affects vaccine production or if we'll need to focus on the deadliest variants, similar to how flu vaccines differ year over year.