US coronavirus cases top 10,000 and on the same or worse curve than Italy

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As of March 19, 2020, 15:35 GMT, we have 10,767 cases and 160 deaths.

This is a massive failure by Trump.

This is a massive failure of communism, state control, authoritarianism and a far left wing government who wanted to give the facade that they had everything under control but didn't. China is 10000% at fault for the vast majority of this. Moronic Democrats will attempt to politicize this for cheap gains, but the general public isn't stupid. We all know it was because China tried to cover it up, silenced doctors, wasted months since Nov/Dec to raise the alarm, destroyed and falsified data, and let millions of people travel from where the problem was to all over the planet.

The ability to contain and mitigate was lost all the way back when China let 5 million people leave Wuhan during Lunar New Year. Absolutely NO country on Earth can contain it at this rate. If Trump is to blame, then why is Italy suffering so bad? If Trump is to blame, then why is Iran digging mass burial graves? If Trump is to blame, why can't a country like Denmark control it? Get bent. If we enacted a no fly/banned all people from China from coming in back in Nov. Democrats would be screaming about racism.

It is a massive failure of both China and Trump. China failed to contain and Trump failed to prepare (due to his arrogance). It is not an “either / or” scenario. The only thing that really matters is finding a vaccine or other drugs that limit its impact. Once that happens, things will start to return to normal. Until then uncertainty will reign and death rates will accelerate. Isolation and testing will help slow it down, but due to Trump’s lack of preparation and arrogant messaging we are behind the testing and isolation curve. Thankfully, we are a federated nation and governors are starting to take the actions Trump has failed to do. He’s in over his head, and it’s obvious, but we’ll persevere despite him.

How does one contain a disease that can be spread by asymptomatic people?

In a small town in Italy, they tested everyone and quarantined all positives, including asymptomatic. There was no more transmission.

In South Korea, they've tested a lot, and quarantined all positives including asymptomatic.

Etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

Have you ever been to a hospital? Freaky looking stuff happens every day. It’s just not blasted in the media over and over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.

Can you provide data to back it up? Since this is a new disease, those are all new deaths. You need to carry a form to go out buy groceries in Italy. Without this type of lockdown, the number of deaths could be even higher. The death rate for Covid-19 is 1.3% for USA and 8.5% for Italy. The flu has a death rate of 0.1%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.

You didn’t watch the video did you. Confess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

So let those who are not young and in perfect health eat cake, right Trumpster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

So let those who are not young and in perfect health eat cake, right Trumpster?

+1
The heartless meanderings from ignorant magats is just so disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.

so you just don't care that people are being turned away from hospitals because there aren't enough beds. And those beds are NOT being taken by people with a cough. The doctors would not allow that. It is a problem when the number of people who need ventilators is larger than then number available. How can you not see this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a country of OLD PEOPLE. Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually. Do it surrounded by family.

It's not just old people who are dying. But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this.

You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.

Can you provide data to back it up? Since this is a new disease, those are all new deaths. You need to carry a form to go out buy groceries in Italy. Without this type of lockdown, the number of deaths could be even higher. The death rate for Covid-19 is 1.3% for USA and 8.5% for Italy. The flu has a death rate of 0.1%.

New disease does not necessarily mean new death (i.e. death that would not have happened but for corona) because there are confounders. In one Italian study 99% of deaths were patients that had one or more comorbidities.

The rates you cite are far too high. Remember, only the symptomatic and worst cases are even being tested right now due to short supply of tests. There are plenty of people walking around with CV who have not been tested for it and probably never will be. Positive tests are over represented currently, and probably rightly so.

These are released weekly. Nothing is airtight with ANY data set coming out right now, because of the mania, but this does give some pause.

https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html