Little Fires Everywhere virtual watch party SPOILERS

[Anonymous]

I also don't like what they did to the relationship between Mia and Pauline in the show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also don't like what they did to the relationship between Mia and Pauline in the show.

Were they lovers in the book? Again, I read it when the book came out. I don't remember.

[Anonymous]

Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

I mean, yes. I do agree with all of this and it makes for good discussion and a great show. So many variables. Great writing and good points made from writers and producers.

But none of that was in the book, and they’re adding a whole other layer to an already complex story.

And I don’t like Kerry Washington’s face because she crinkles her nose and lips. Not because she’s black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

I mean, yes. I do agree with all of this and it makes for good discussion and a great show. So many variables. Great writing and good points made from writers and producers.

But none of that was in the book, and they’re adding a whole other layer to an already complex story.

And I don’t like Kerry Washington’s face because she crinkles her nose and lips. Not because she’s black.

I agree with most of both of these posts. Including wishing someone other than KW had played Mia. I know Lisa Bonet was mentioned above. It would have been great to have her play 1980s Mia and her daughter Zoe play the 1970s Mia. But honestly, almost any other AA actress than KW because I can’t stop seeing Olivia Pope when she emotes with her face.

However, I didn’t find the book particularly complex and forgot that I had read it. I had to double check my Goodreads history. Mia, Pearl, and Bebe are mistreated because of social class, but the 1980s weren’t a racial paradise and few tv shows explore that. Time to strip away the feel good Benetton ads and look at what is really like to be a person of color in a predominantly white community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also don't like what they did to the relationship between Mia and Pauline in the show.

Were they lovers in the book? Again, I read it when the book came out. I don't remember.

No they weren't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

I mean, yes. I do agree with all of this and it makes for good discussion and a great show. So many variables. Great writing and good points made from writers and producers.

But none of that was in the book, and they’re adding a whole other layer to an already complex story.

And I don’t like Kerry Washington’s face because she crinkles her nose and lips. Not because she’s black.

+2

I'll add that the way the younger Mia nails KW's mannerisms is fantastic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also don't like what they did to the relationship between Mia and Pauline in the show.

Were they lovers in the book? Again, I read it when the book came out. I don't remember.

No. They weren’t. But of course Hollywood must do everything they can to normalize it. So it has to be in every show, movie, commercial.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

AA female. I don’t mind that the character is AA. I don’t care for Kerry’s overacting in this show.

[Anonymous]

When I read the book Mia and Pearl were Asian-American in my mind. Not an immigrant like Bebe, but American, with an Asian racial background.

I like Kerry Washington, and I even like the AA dynamic in the show, however Kerry is one dimensional. There is no joy, fun, or a lighthearted artistic side that Mia portrayed in the book.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

I mean, yes. I do agree with all of this and it makes for good discussion and a great show. So many variables. Great writing and good points made from writers and producers.

But none of that was in the book, and they’re adding a whole other layer to an already complex story.

And I don’t like Kerry Washington’s face because she crinkles her nose and lips. Not because she’s black.

+2

I'll add that the way the younger Mia nails KW's mannerisms is fantastic.

This!!! She did an amazing job!

[Anonymous]

The storyline with Mirabelle is so unrealistic. If she just turned one, the bio mother would have legally lost her rights long ago, especially considering she just surrendered her to a fire station.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting to read the comments. It would be interesting to know the racial breakdown of the people who dislike the series version of Mia.

As a woman of color, I LOVE her character on the show. Yes, different from the book, but felt authentic for the class/race dynamics in the series. The Mia I imagine in the book is white. Adding the racial dimension to the series, for me, changes the perspective on how Mia deals with people, particularly privileged white people. The abortion scene with Lexie and the scene where she discusses making vs. having choices were powerful and my favorites. I feel like she spoke what many women of color feel.

I do have mixed feelings about what she did to the couple for whom she was acting as a surrogate. However, it also invites conversation about the historical use of black bodies, particularly black female bodies in this country. I especially loved that the couple was black, which adds to the discourse that abuse of black bodies can also happen at the hands of other black people.

I‘m AA. I like how Mia is written in the series. I just dislike KW’s facial contortions. I disliked them on Scandal. I don’t recall her twisting her face that way in the Last King if Scotland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I also don't like what they did to the relationship between Mia and Pauline in the show.

Were they lovers in the book? Again, I read it when the book came out. I don't remember.

No. They weren’t. But of course Hollywood must do everything they can to normalize it. So it has to be in every show, movie, commercial.

Maybe you are seeing what your mind wants to see?

[Anonymous]

Who was the art dealer she called? I assumed it was Pauline but obviously not.