Little Fires Everywhere virtual watch party SPOILERS

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Anonymous wrote:From the looks of the trailer, I think they are changing the story?

Book followers, help me. Does Elena ever figure out about Mia and pearl?

Yes

Does she use it against her?


I am SO excited to see how they play out the very end. Like, very end. I was sobbing and gasping. I’m team Bebe.

I'm empathetic, but she abandoned her baby and the mandatory waiting periods have well since passed (the baby is a year old!). Should babies left at safe haven spots be left in foster care limbo for years just in case the mom returns?

DP. I was also very empathetic regarding Bebe, but couldn't help wondering - why didn't she go to a women's shelter with her baby when she couldn't afford to feed her? Surely there were/are places that will take in women in dire straits and their children?

She was afraid because she was an undocumented immigrant.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the finale was okay, and liked that Elena actually seemed to learn something, but don't understand why Pearl wanted to see the grandparents who rejected her and her mother instead of the father who had desperately wanted her. Not that I'm totally sympathetic to the latter, given the whole issue of a rich family's "buying" a young poor black girl's body and eggs with little regard for her well being.

Find it totally implausible the adoptive parents wouldn't have had a security system installed ffs. And heartless of them not to let the bio mother at least have limited visitation rights.

Regarding the bolded, plenty of young white women are paid surrogates too - why make that about race?

Mia is white in the book.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not quite done with the series but it seems like the point of the show is that white women are unworthy of empathy and their aims at friendship are inauthentic because they are actually narcissistic psychopaths. The scene after the abortion is kind of cruel, I mean, she's a teenager. I'm waiting for Mia to point at the screen and lecture me that white women are why Hillary Clinton lost the election, and a "the more you know" rainbow to appear on the screen.

Book fan here. This was all for TV. There was no race issue in the book.

The post abortion scene was terrible. In the book, Mia comforts Lexie. Lexie walks in crying with the bag of pads and Mia knows right away. It’s a great book scene.

Well, that is pretty much how it's shown on screen too. Mia makes Lexie tea, puts clean sheets on the bed for her, and just generally comforts her. It's only when Lexie asks her if she made the right decision that Mia explodes - that seemed to come out of nowhere and was very strange to me.

In the book she comforts her through and through. Mia is generally a very good person in the book.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the finale was okay, and liked that Elena actually seemed to learn something, but don't understand why Pearl wanted to see the grandparents who rejected her and her mother instead of the father who had desperately wanted her. Not that I'm totally sympathetic to the latter, given the whole issue of a rich family's "buying" a young poor black girl's body and eggs with little regard for her well being.

Find it totally implausible the adoptive parents wouldn't have had a security system installed ffs. And heartless of them not to let the bio mother at least have limited visitation rights.

Regarding the bolded, plenty of young white women are paid surrogates too - why make that about race?

I was a college student 94-98 and our student paper had ads every week asking to buy for our eggs.

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I'm a little older - graduated college in '90 - but considered selling my eggs at one point. Glad I decided not to. (White woman, btw)

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Kerry Washington was nominated for an Emmy for her role.

HOW
WHY
WHAT

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Anonymous wrote:Kerry Washington was nominated for an Emmy for her role.

HOW
WHY
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Good grief.

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There is no way a young immigrant mom would be on her own like that. Formula is the easiest thing to get. She would have plenty of support in the community to show her how to sign up for WIC.

White people who don't know anything about poverty writing books about poverty -- so annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way a young immigrant mom would be on her own like that. Formula is the easiest thing to get. She would have plenty of support in the community to show her how to sign up for WIC.

White people who don't know anything about poverty writing books about poverty -- so annoying.

Excuse me? Who is it that you think wrote the book?

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way a young immigrant mom would be on her own like that. Formula is the easiest thing to get. She would have plenty of support in the community to show her how to sign up for WIC.

White people who don't know anything about poverty writing books about poverty -- so annoying.

Excuse me? Who is it that you think wrote the book?

Someone who has two scientist parents and who went to Harvard. Not someone who knows anything about poverty other than their own poverty porn fantasies.

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I watched the whole series, but I couldn't stand Mia. And I didn't find her sympathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way a young immigrant mom would be on her own like that. Formula is the easiest thing to get. She would have plenty of support in the community to show her how to sign up for WIC.

White people who don't know anything about poverty writing books about poverty -- so annoying.

Excuse me? Who is it that you think wrote the book?

Someone who has two scientist parents and who went to Harvard. Not someone who knows anything about poverty other than their own poverty porn fantasies.

Are you going to back pedal on your race comment as well? I’m sure Celeste is much more familiar with the Chinese immigrant experience then a racist troll like you.

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Yeah, she knows so much about poverty and the poor immigrant experience. I'm sure her wealthy parents couldn't come up with $.70 to feed her.

If people are going to tell our story it should be us. Coming from a place of understanding. Not The Help, and not this cr@p.

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Anonymous wrote:I read the book. Did you get the impression that the character looked like Kerry Washington?

I thought it was pretty obvious in the book that Mia and Pearl were black.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the finale was okay, and liked that Elena actually seemed to learn something, but don't understand why Pearl wanted to see the grandparents who rejected her and her mother instead of the father who had desperately wanted her. Not that I'm totally sympathetic to the latter, given the whole issue of a rich family's "buying" a young poor black girl's body and eggs with little regard for her well being.

Find it totally implausible the adoptive parents wouldn't have had a security system installed ffs. And heartless of them not to let the bio mother at least have limited visitation rights.

Regarding the bolded, plenty of young white women are paid surrogates too - why make that about race?

Mia is white in the book.

No, that was your perception. Her race is never clarified in the book.

In my head I pictured Asian heritage, but very much American. The book definitely didn't focus on race inequalities, it was more wealth focused.

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Did Mia become so invested in getting Bebe’s baby back to atone for stealing someone else’s child? She was a surrogate, Pearl was not her biological child.