Pipeline to ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:There are some morons on this page. I don't know many of any ECNL players who don't play and enjoy HS soccer. Hell, you idiots, why did PDA, FC Stars, Michigan Hawks, etc. leave the DA after a year. Why did all the other ECNL clubs stay put? They all did so because there was demand from their players to play HS ball.

For all the jacka$$es poopooing HS, wake up. Look at all the DI commits from the DMV and tell me again that elite players don't enjoy HS soccer. Most all of the DI commits going to high-end schools chose HS over DA.

I don't disagree that aspects of HS soccer are horrible but you are a fool if you think most players don't enjoy it.

They play HS soccer because they almsot have no effing choice. There is no ECNL season during HS. If the don't play HS they don't play.

They like the social aspects but they hate playing with your crappy kid who can't receive a pass and can only run straight.

You should stop posting because you come across as a complete muppet. ECNL takes the HS season off because girls like playing HS. If they didn't, they would play DA and ECNL would go out of business.

Why don't you back out of this discussion and take your a$$-backward approach elsewhere?

Ironically, ECNL never liked the girls playing HS. The ECNL support of HS is a recent phenomenon to separate themselves from the DA. The added bonus was the ECNL teams could keep their rates stable while decreasing their training time. Additionally, they realized they could carry larger rosters because some of the HS girls would stick with the school sports only during that season or get injured more frequently, and they would need additional kids for their tournaments.

If you think clubs stayed in ECNL because of Kids demanding HS soccer, you are wrong. It is more profitable and less work to run an ECNL team.

Some girls do like playing HS ball, but some others (once they’ve played more competitive soccer) think it is a complete waste of time. Most D1 programs won’t care about your HS games or playing time. The commits got into the schools based upon their performance at a club (indeed a good way to lose all consideration for a school is to send a HS clip reel).

This. All of this.

Oh wise sage tell us where you acquired your wisdom regarding what college coaches look for.

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Anonymous wrote:There are some morons on this page. I don't know many of any ECNL players who don't play and enjoy HS soccer. Hell, you idiots, why did PDA, FC Stars, Michigan Hawks, etc. leave the DA after a year. Why did all the other ECNL clubs stay put? They all did so because there was demand from their players to play HS ball.

For all the jacka$$es poopooing HS, wake up. Look at all the DI commits from the DMV and tell me again that elite players don't enjoy HS soccer. Most all of the DI commits going to high-end schools chose HS over DA.

I don't disagree that aspects of HS soccer are horrible but you are a fool if you think most players don't enjoy it.

They play HS soccer because they almsot have no effing choice. There is no ECNL season during HS. If the don't play HS they don't play.

They like the social aspects but they hate playing with your crappy kid who can't receive a pass and can only run straight.

You should stop posting because you come across as a complete muppet. ECNL takes the HS season off because girls like playing HS. If they didn't, they would play DA and ECNL would go out of business.

Why don't you back out of this discussion and take your a$$-backward approach elsewhere?

Ironically, ECNL never liked the girls playing HS. The ECNL support of HS is a recent phenomenon to separate themselves from the DA. The added bonus was the ECNL teams could keep their rates stable while decreasing their training time. Additionally, they realized they could carry larger rosters because some of the HS girls would stick with the school sports only during that season or get injured more frequently, and they would need additional kids for their tournaments.

If you think clubs stayed in ECNL because of Kids demanding HS soccer, you are wrong. It is more profitable and less work to run an ECNL team.

Some girls do like playing HS ball, but some others (once they’ve played more competitive soccer) think it is a complete waste of time. Most D1 programs won’t care about your HS games or playing time. The commits got into the schools based upon their performance at a club (indeed a good way to lose all consideration for a school is to send a HS clip reel).

This. All of this.

Oh wise sage tell us where you acquired your wisdom regarding what college coaches look for.

Not any of the PPs but i agree with the poster above. I would guess the wisdom comes from having had a DD go through the recruiting process.

[Anonymous]

Too many ECNL parents who are mad that they are over paying for soccer only to train half the year, should have went the DA route <sorry>

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Anyone care to go back to the topic of whether or not Pipeline is going to ECNL? Or should we just focus on high school soccer vs DA pissing matches?

If the former: Is this girls only? Any rumors of the boys sides going ECNL?

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This is why people in the DC bubble were surprised that Trump won. Their collective heads were so far up their own a$$e$ that they couldn't tell heads from tails even though the signs were all around them.

I can post a dozen letters/interviews from established clubs explaining why they either left the DA or turned down an offer. HS is always one of the leading considerations. There are girls who live and attend HS in DC/MD but play at McLean. If they hated HS ball, they would bail on HS and just do McLean. But they don't because they like HS.

Again, HS is weak but the girls still like playing for their HS. . Don't tell me girls who play at McDonough, St. Johns, Good Counsel, Mercy, Spaulding, Sidwell, Maret, GV, Whitman, QO, etc., don't like HS. I have gone to the games. Those girls love playing for their HS teams.

If Pipeline does end up going ECNL, you can bet that one of the main considerations was that their girls wanted to play HS.

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Matchfit

In making our decision, these are the major factors we considered;

1. Condensing our ECNL teams from 6 to 3 DA teams, and then not having a quality league to provide for the remaining players, would hurt our club.
2. The DA saturated the North East by adding too many clubs. Not only does this hurt our player pool it additionally diluted the standard of the DA.
3. We feel our players should have a choice the choice play high school soccer and other HS sports. The DA would not allow this.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/match-fit-academy-fc-declines-girls-da-invite-sticks-with-ecnl/

[Anonymous]

You folks are brain dead. Please STFU with this "Elite girls don't want to play HS" stupidity. See letter below from 2016.

Hello Bethesda Soccer Club Girls Families:
I hope your soccer season and school year are off to a good start!
I’m writing to update you on a very important topic for our girls’ program. As many of you are now
aware, US Soccer announced the launch of a Girls’ Development Academy (GDA) to begin play in the
fall 2017 season.? Bethesda Soccer Club (BSC) has spent a tremendous amount of time evaluating the
potential impact of joining the GDA or staying with our current league – Elite Clubs National league
(ECNL) – for our top tier girls’ teams.
After many months of analysis, meetings with coaches at all levels, conversations with both US Soccer
and the ECNL leadership, and most importantly discussions, Q & A sessions, and survey input from
our own BSC families, we have decided to retain our coveted membership in the ECNL as we believe
the league represents the best fit for our club at this time.
As a founding member of the ECNL, we have enjoyed years of quality competition and placed 95% of
our young women at hundreds of college programs across the country. The ECNL is focused on
preparing girls for college soccer – and given that there are twice as many college soccer
opportunities for women vs. men, a college-focused league makes sense for most of our girls. In our
recent survey, “college soccer” was the most frequent response from our families when asked about
their aspirational soccer goal for their daughters. We have every reason to believe the ECNL will
remain a highly competitive league for years to come.
While we believe the ECNL is the right league for many of our girls, we’re fully aware that striving to
play at a national team-level is the goal for a segment of our club. We remain committed to exploring
every potential avenue to provide a direct pathway for our players who prefer to try to play in the
GDA as well as remain a part of Bethesda Soccer Club. Our club Board of Directors has formed a
committee specifically tasked with further exploring alliances with other local clubs and evaluating
other alternatives for providing a GDA option within BSC for our girls.
A few key points about the decision to stay in the ECNL right now:
• Desire to play high school soccer and other sports
It’s clear from conversations I’ve had with many of you over the past several months that
most of you want your daughters to have the opportunity to play soccer for her high school
and play other sports if she desires. The opportunity to play on high school teams goes far
beyond the field, as it provides many girls the chance to assume leadership positions and
gain skills in different roles that they could not get elsewhere. GDA players will not have this
opportunity except in rare cases of a waiver.
• Restrictive substitution rules and restrictions on our girls’ time
GDA players will be required to train four weekdays per week 10-months out of the year
leaving little time for anything else. The no re-entry substitution rule and maximum of five
substitutions in GDA games will restrict playing time.
• Girls’ DA vs. Boys’ DA
As you know, BSC’s boys’ program is a part of the US Development Academy. Many ask why
the decision to join on the boys-side but not the girls-side. When US Soccer started the Boys’
Development Academy there was no established national league for top-tier competition like
the girls have ECNL today. It’s a very different scenario.
We have accomplished a great deal and made enviable progress in our girls’ program in the last 15
months. In our recent survey, “playing for the best coaches” was the most important consideration
for our girls’ families. Since I have been here, we have hired a new YDP program lead in Emily Janss,
brought on Jeff Rohrman to oversee our State Cup teams’ program, and most recently hired a fulltime goalkeeper coach, Laurie Pells-George – all three are “A” licensed coaches. We have instituted a
programmatic approach to ensure all of our coaches work towards their licenses, and today we have
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a greater number of “A” and “B” licensed coaches working with your children than the majority of the
clubs in the country. I also strongly believe that soccer coaches are a sum of their education
/licensing, their managerial skills, and their life experiences. We have a unique and growing group of
coaches that are well-rounded in these categories and well-prepared to positively impact the games
and lives of our girls and young women.
In the coming weeks and months, we will be reaching out to speak with all of our teams individually
or by age groups to address questions and concerns. We know some of you are well-briefed on all of
the complexities of this decision; others who have younger daughters or whose daughters today play
in the OBSL, WAGS/NCSL or EDP may be less familiar. I encourage you to talk to your daughter’s
coach as they have all been part of this process and are supportive of our direction. We’re committed
to continuing to raise the bar on all of our programs and to educating our parents about the changing
landscape of girls competitive soccer.
Thank you for your input, patience and understanding during this ongoing process. As I’ve noted,
our evaluation of the landscape will continue. Regardless of the league we are in, you have my
commitment that we will provide the best coaching, the best programming, and the best experience
possible for your daughters.
Go BSC!

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The more I post the more you folks look like idiots. Let me know when I should stop.

PDA even had girls playing DA who also played HS. PDA leadership thought it was unfair to girls who wanted to play HS but could not get a waiver so they bailed on DA.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/article/nj-based-sky-blue-pda-girls-soccer-leaving-us-girls-development-academy/

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Well, I’ll stand corrected. If the soccer club is saying, well then it must be true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why people in the DC bubble were surprised that Trump won. Their collective heads were so far up their own a$$e$ that they couldn't tell heads from tails even though the signs were all around them.

I can post a dozen letters/interviews from established clubs explaining why they either left the DA or turned down an offer. HS is always one of the leading considerations. There are girls who live and attend HS in DC/MD but play at McLean. If they hated HS ball, they would bail on HS and just do McLean. But they don't because they like HS.

Again, HS is weak but the girls still like playing for their HS. . Don't tell me girls who play at McDonough, St. Johns, Good Counsel, Mercy, Spaulding, Sidwell, Maret, GV, Whitman, QO, etc., don't like HS. I have gone to the games. Those girls love playing for their HS teams.

If Pipeline does end up going ECNL, you can bet that one of the main considerations was that their girls wanted to play HS.

HS is weak and you can stop there. It is weak. There is no upside. It is poorly coached, poorly officiated, plays to the lowest tactical level that can be cohesively designed for a ever changing roster over 3 short months.

It is 6 days a week, multiple games per week. Training is geared mostly towards fitness with little balance or care for the overall health of the girls. The variance of experience from level of club soccer to 4 year age and playing experience difference turns the game into the simplest of styles geared solely for the quickest possible results.

It, is awful. Half the kids playing are so bad the game needs to be simplified or is automatically simplified by a unsophisticated coach just to get the most out of the weakest links on the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, I’ll stand corrected. If the soccer club is saying, well then it must be true.

You are an idiot. I held out hope but it is clear that you are comfortable in your stupidity. I am done but before leaving here is one more for you.

https://www.soccernation.com/hello-goodbye-why-crossfire-premier-is-leaving-the-girls-da/

"Then you can add to that a bigger hurdle: These girls want to play for their high schools. They want to play in front of their friends and with their friends. They want to play for their schools. [When the Girls DA started] we thought the girls would eventually not mind giving up the social aspect of high school soccer, like what happened on the boys’ DA side. That didn’t happen. They know they can still be in a very competitive league [ECNL] and be able to play high school soccer at the same time, and that’s a very attractive proposition to our players.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why people in the DC bubble were surprised that Trump won. Their collective heads were so far up their own a$$e$ that they couldn't tell heads from tails even though the signs were all around them.

I can post a dozen letters/interviews from established clubs explaining why they either left the DA or turned down an offer. HS is always one of the leading considerations. There are girls who live and attend HS in DC/MD but play at McLean. If they hated HS ball, they would bail on HS and just do McLean. But they don't because they like HS.

Again, HS is weak but the girls still like playing for their HS. . Don't tell me girls who play at McDonough, St. Johns, Good Counsel, Mercy, Spaulding, Sidwell, Maret, GV, Whitman, QO, etc., don't like HS. I have gone to the games. Those girls love playing for their HS teams.

If Pipeline does end up going ECNL, you can bet that one of the main considerations was that their girls wanted to play HS.

HS is weak and you can stop there. It is weak. There is no upside. It is poorly coached, poorly officiated, plays to the lowest tactical level that can be cohesively designed for a ever changing roster over 3 short months.

It is 6 days a week, multiple games per week. Training is geared mostly towards fitness with little balance or care for the overall health of the girls. The variance of experience from level of club soccer to 4 year age and playing experience difference turns the game into the simplest of styles geared solely for the quickest possible results.

It, is awful. Half the kids playing are so bad the game needs to be simplified or is automatically simplified by a unsophisticated coach just to get the most out of the weakest links on the team.

Yup. No upside. Just call it off. Cancel HS soccer. Also, call off most other HS sports as it's just a waste of time. I guess we can keep football and basketball, but screw the rest.

While we are at it let's call off D3 college sports. That's useless too. They aren't going pro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why people in the DC bubble were surprised that Trump won. Their collective heads were so far up their own a$$e$ that they couldn't tell heads from tails even though the signs were all around them.

I can post a dozen letters/interviews from established clubs explaining why they either left the DA or turned down an offer. HS is always one of the leading considerations. There are girls who live and attend HS in DC/MD but play at McLean. If they hated HS ball, they would bail on HS and just do McLean. But they don't because they like HS.

Again, HS is weak but the girls still like playing for their HS. . Don't tell me girls who play at McDonough, St. Johns, Good Counsel, Mercy, Spaulding, Sidwell, Maret, GV, Whitman, QO, etc., don't like HS. I have gone to the games. Those girls love playing for their HS teams.

If Pipeline does end up going ECNL, you can bet that one of the main considerations was that their girls wanted to play HS.

HS is weak and you can stop there. It is weak. There is no upside. It is poorly coached, poorly officiated, plays to the lowest tactical level that can be cohesively designed for a ever changing roster over 3 short months.

It is 6 days a week, multiple games per week. Training is geared mostly towards fitness with little balance or care for the overall health of the girls. The variance of experience from level of club soccer to 4 year age and playing experience difference turns the game into the simplest of styles geared solely for the quickest possible results.

It, is awful. Half the kids playing are so bad the game needs to be simplified or is automatically simplified by a unsophisticated coach just to get the most out of the weakest links on the team.

Yup. No upside. Just call it off. Cancel HS soccer. Also, call off most other HS sports as it's just a waste of time. I guess we can keep football and basketball, but screw the rest.

While we are at it let's call off D3 college sports. That's useless too. They aren't going pro.

A team that changes every year and only plays together 3 months a year is destined to be terrible and the lowest form of organized soccer in spite of the talent.

BSC claiming how arduous 4 days a week of DA practice is for kids yet believes 6 days a week with multiple games a week IS fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I’ll stand corrected. If the soccer club is saying, well then it must be true.

You are an idiot. I held out hope but it is clear that you are comfortable in your stupidity. I am done but before leaving here is one more for you.

https://www.soccernation.com/hello-goodbye-why-crossfire-premier-is-leaving-the-girls-da/

"Then you can add to that a bigger hurdle: These girls want to play for their high schools. They want to play in front of their friends and with their friends. They want to play for their schools. [When the Girls DA started] we thought the girls would eventually not mind giving up the social aspect of high school soccer, like what happened on the boys’ DA side. That didn’t happen. They know they can still be in a very competitive league [ECNL] and be able to play high school soccer at the same time, and that’s a very attractive proposition to our players.”

Nobody goes to girls sports. It’s just the parents in the stands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The more I post the more you folks look like idiots. Let me know when I should stop.

PDA even had girls playing DA who also played HS. PDA leadership thought it was unfair to girls who wanted to play HS but could not get a waiver so they bailed on DA.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/article/nj-based-sky-blue-pda-girls-soccer-leaving-us-girls-development-academy/

Every post is anonymous, how would we know it’s you? ??