Residents appeal MCPS boundary changes, challenge legality of diversity focus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

They love being on the wrong side of history.

As long as my child end up on the right side of the ever more competitive job market, I really don't care how you define history, let alone what side of it is wrong. It's your history, so you deal with it. You have a salary, feel free to pay reparations, rent out your basement to drug addicts in vain hopes of reforming them, whatever. People who are here as 1st generation immigrants have no compelling interest in correcting some historical wrong that should have self-corrected generations ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

They love being on the wrong side of history.

As long as my child end up on the right side of the ever more competitive job market, I really don't care how you define history, let alone what side of it is wrong. It's your history, so you deal with it. You have a salary, feel free to pay reparations, rent out your basement to drug addicts in vain hopes of reforming them, whatever. People who are here as 1st generation immigrants have no compelling interest in correcting some historical wrong that should have self-corrected generations ago.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what George Wallace said!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

Have you read the appeal? In Montgomery County, 87% of FARMS students are Hispanic (55%) and African American (32%). When they balance out FARMS rates, there are not enough white and Asian FARMS students to be moved around. They must move Hispanic and African American students from high FARMS schools to low FARMS schools. This is exactly what they did in Clarksburg and Germantown. They moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing. MCPS's own numbers prove it. The Superintendent may call it economic balancing but the effect is the same as racial balancing. This is using FARMS rate as a thinly-veiled proxy for race to do racial balancing. The 15-page pdf appeal goes into great detail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

They love being on the wrong side of history.

As long as my child end up on the right side of the ever more competitive job market, I really don't care how you define history, let alone what side of it is wrong. It's your history, so you deal with it. You have a salary, feel free to pay reparations, rent out your basement to drug addicts in vain hopes of reforming them, whatever. People who are here as 1st generation immigrants have no compelling interest in correcting some historical wrong that should have self-corrected generations ago.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what George Wallace said!

No, these positions are not equivalent.

[Anonymous]

Rich people who fight redistricting deserve to have the boundaries of their school doubled and then all the poor kids bussed in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

Have you read the appeal? In Montgomery County, 87% of FARMS students are Hispanic (55%) and African American (32%). When they balance out FARMS rates, there are not enough white and Asian FARMS students to be moved around. They must move Hispanic and African American students from high FARMS schools to low FARMS schools. This is exactly what they did in Clarksburg and Germantown. They moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing. MCPS's own numbers prove it. The Superintendent may call it economic balancing but the effect is the same as racial balancing. This is using FARMS rate as a thinly-veiled proxy for race to do racial balancing. The 15-page pdf appeal goes into great detail.

Have you read the superintendent's recommendation?

Also, no, they are not moving "Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way". They are moving EVERYBODY zoned for Daly ES/Fox Chapel ES to Rocky Hill MS, and EVERYBODY zoned for Gibbs ES/in Cabin Branch to Neelsville MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rich people who fight redistricting deserve to have the boundaries of their school doubled and then all the poor kids bussed in.

Um. PP. Kids from low-income families are not punishment for affluent people.

If you're trying to help - you're not helping.

If you're trolling - stop trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rich people who fight redistricting deserve to have the boundaries of their school doubled and then all the poor kids bussed in.

Um. PP. Kids from low-income families are not punishment for affluent people.

If you're trying to help - you're not helping.

If you're trolling - stop trolling.

they certainly act like it is punishment....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

They love being on the wrong side of history.

As long as my child end up on the right side of the ever more competitive job market, I really don't care how you define history, let alone what side of it is wrong. It's your history, so you deal with it. You have a salary, feel free to pay reparations, rent out your basement to drug addicts in vain hopes of reforming them, whatever. People who are here as 1st generation immigrants have no compelling interest in correcting some historical wrong that should have self-corrected generations ago.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what George Wallace said!

No, these positions are not equivalent.

No really that's what he said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rich people who fight redistricting deserve to have the boundaries of their school doubled and then all the poor kids bussed in.

Um. PP. Kids from low-income families are not punishment for affluent people.

If you're trying to help - you're not helping.

If you're trolling - stop trolling.

they certainly act like it is punishment....

Yes, they do. That doesn't mean that you have to. So don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rich people who fight redistricting deserve to have the boundaries of their school doubled and then all the poor kids bussed in.

Agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

Have you read the appeal? In Montgomery County, 87% of FARMS students are Hispanic (55%) and African American (32%). When they balance out FARMS rates, there are not enough white and Asian FARMS students to be moved around. They must move Hispanic and African American students from high FARMS schools to low FARMS schools. This is exactly what they did in Clarksburg and Germantown. They moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing. MCPS's own numbers prove it. The Superintendent may call it economic balancing but the effect is the same as racial balancing. This is using FARMS rate as a thinly-veiled proxy for race to do racial balancing. The 15-page pdf appeal goes into great detail.

Have you read the superintendent's recommendation?

Also, no, they are not moving "Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way". They are moving EVERYBODY zoned for Daly ES/Fox Chapel ES to Rocky Hill MS, and EVERYBODY zoned for Gibbs ES/in Cabin Branch to Neelsville MS.

Once you look up the racial compositions in these schools and the final results, you will see that the Superintendent's final plan increased Hispanic and African American populations and decreased white and Asian American populations in Rocky Hill MS, and he decreased Hispanic and African American populations and increased white and Asian American populations in Neelsville MS. MCPS's numbers clearly show that. In effect, he moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Once you look up the racial compositions in these schools and the final results, you will see that the Superintendent's final plan increased Hispanic and African American populations and decreased white and Asian American populations in Rocky Hill MS, and he decreased Hispanic and African American populations and increased white and Asian American populations in Neelsville MS. MCPS's numbers clearly show that. In effect, he moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing.

No, that's not the effect.

Do you think that there aren't any Hispanic or African-American students at Gibbs or living in Cabin Branch? Take a look at the percentages. Indeed, the appeal specifically mentions that the schools the students were zoned for, before the reassignment, were diverse.

The way you're talking, you're just wiping Hispanic & African-American students from Milestone and Cabin Branch out of existence, along with white and Asian-American students from Daly and Fox Chapel. Why are you doing that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

Have you read the appeal? In Montgomery County, 87% of FARMS students are Hispanic (55%) and African American (32%). When they balance out FARMS rates, there are not enough white and Asian FARMS students to be moved around. They must move Hispanic and African American students from high FARMS schools to low FARMS schools. This is exactly what they did in Clarksburg and Germantown. They moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing. MCPS's own numbers prove it. The Superintendent may call it economic balancing but the effect is the same as racial balancing. This is using FARMS rate as a thinly-veiled proxy for race to do racial balancing. The 15-page pdf appeal goes into great detail.

Have you read the superintendent's recommendation?

Also, no, they are not moving "Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way". They are moving EVERYBODY zoned for Daly ES/Fox Chapel ES to Rocky Hill MS, and EVERYBODY zoned for Gibbs ES/in Cabin Branch to Neelsville MS.

I know but it's kind of fun to read this misguided hysteria. A lot of these people need to put down the pipe and turn off fox news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Once you look up the racial compositions in these schools and the final results, you will see that the Superintendent's final plan increased Hispanic and African American populations and decreased white and Asian American populations in Rocky Hill MS, and he decreased Hispanic and African American populations and increased white and Asian American populations in Neelsville MS. MCPS's numbers clearly show that. In effect, he moved Hispanic and African American students from Neelsville MS to Rocky Hill MS and white and Asian American students the other way. This is racial balancing.

No, that's not the effect.

Do you think that there aren't any Hispanic or African-American students at Gibbs or living in Cabin Branch? Take a look at the percentages. Indeed, the appeal specifically mentions that the schools the students were zoned for, before the reassignment, were diverse.

The way you're talking, you're just wiping Hispanic & African-American students from Milestone and Cabin Branch out of existence, along with white and Asian-American students from Daly and Fox Chapel. Why are you doing that?

The effect is: According to MCPS's numbers, the Superintendent's final plan increased Hispanic and African American populations and decreased white and Asian American populations in Rocky Hill MS, and he decreased Hispanic and African American populations and increased white and Asian American populations in Neelsville MS.