Residents appeal MCPS boundary changes, challenge legality of diversity focus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Here is an NC study - https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brown-center-chalkboard/2019/07/15/can-school-districts-achieve-racial-integration-by-pursuing-socioeconomic-integration/

Brookings is left of center, but the article is balanced.

Under this policy, the district set a target of no school having more than 40% of its student body eligible for free or reduced-price lunch and no more than 25% of students performing below grade level.

This wasn't addressed in the findings.

Well, the story is a bit complicated. On one hand, on average, racial and ethnic segregation levels were not meaningfully different under the SES-based assignment policy compared to a scenario in which all students would have attended their neighborhood school. For example, over the time period we study, the average black student attended a school where 46.5% of students were white. If all students had attended their neighborhood school, the average black student would have attended a school where 45.8% of students were white, a number that is slightly lower but not meaningfully different from segregation levels under the SES-based assignment policy.

On the other hand, for students who would have attended majority-minority schools under residence-based school assignment, the SES-based assignment policy dramatically changed their schooling context. For example, in schools where 75% of the student body would have been nonwhite under a residence-based school assignment policy, the average black student would have attended a school where only 14.3% of students were white. Under the SES-based assignment policy, they attended a school where 37.5% of students were white—a considerably more diverse school environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants their children to be a social experiment and that’s just what MCPS is doing to the student body at these schools.

Reassigning students from one school to the next school over is not a social experiment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Google "Appeal Filed in Response to Board of Education's Boundary Changes" with the double quotes and read the pdf appeal yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At this point the people from clarksburg should be scared- they are making such a fuss their kids will definitely get jumped now.

This is the most truthful comment on this thread. Thanks.

Well, now, there's a quandary. Because to read it, I'd have to click on the blog of the person who lives in Potomac, has long acted on the principle that whatever MCPS does is wrong, and blow up every on-line dialogue with a mix of goalpost-shifting, basic illogic, and misrepresentation of facts. What to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Google "Appeal Filed in Response to Board of Education's Boundary Changes" with the double quotes and read the pdf appeal yourself.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At this point the people from clarksburg should be scared- they are making such a fuss their kids will definitely get jumped now.

This is the most truthful comment on this thread. Thanks.

Does not mean they won’t get beat up for it.

But then again, they did come in swinging.

Behold the true face of social justice warriors, delighting that their useless offspring may "jump" our kids prior to going to their predictable final destination of state prison and life of crime.

But then again, those of us who come from Communist countries are familiar with your type from our grandparents' experiences.

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers...call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Behold the true face of social justice warriors, delighting that their useless offspring may "jump" our kids prior to going to their predictable final destination of state prison and life of crime.

But then again, those of us who come from Communist countries are familiar with your type from our grandparents' experiences.

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers...call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

It's 7 am, and somebody on DCUM is calling Superintendent Jack Smith a Nazi because he reassigned one area of Clarksburg from Rocky Hill MS/Clarksburg HS to Neelsville MS/Seneca Valley HS.

DCUM's gonna DCUM, I guess.

PP, here's the speech you're quoting from. FDR delivered it at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner on March 15, 1941.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/fdr24.htm

He was talking about the Lend-Lease Act.

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=71

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Then it's a good thing MCPS isn't doing "racial balancing."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Then it's a good thing MCPS isn't doing "racial balancing."

Yep. Quoting from the superintendent's recommendation:

Demographic Characteristics of Student Population
Analyses of options should take into account the impact of various options on the overall populations of affectedschools. Options especially should strive to create a diverse student body in each of the affected schools in alignment with Board of Education Policy ACD, Quality Integrated Education. Demographic data displaying the impact of various options include the following: racial/ethniccomposition of the student population, socioeconomic composition of the student population, level of English language learners, and other reliable demographic indicators and participation in specific educational programs

and

With regard to the demographic profiles of the schools, my goal was to reduce the disparity of the FARMS percentage at the high schools, as the three high schools are racially and ethnically diverse. The disparity in the FARMS population range among the three schools is 16.5 percent. It is important to note that although Option 4 brought the disparity among the three schools closest together (5.9 percent), however, this option is not effective at advancing the geography factor. Option 4would require busing walkers from Little Bennett Elementary School and busing the Northwest High School students who live furthest away in the Darnestown Elementary School service area to Seneca Valley High School. Both of these points contradict my goal to maximize walkers and would have a negative impact on students and families, as well as requiring additional transportation resources and negatively impacting the environment. Therefore, I examined options that could reduce the impact on the FARMS disparity while also advancing the geography factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants their children to be a social experiment and that’s just what MCPS is doing to the student body at these schools.

The whole existence of outer ring suburbs serviced by extensive highway infrastructure is a social experiment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Behold the true face of social justice warriors, delighting that their useless offspring may "jump" our kids prior to going to their predictable final destination of state prison and life of crime.

But then again, those of us who come from Communist countries are familiar with your type from our grandparents' experiences.

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers...call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

It's 7 am, and somebody on DCUM is calling Superintendent Jack Smith a Nazi because he reassigned one area of Clarksburg from Rocky Hill MS/Clarksburg HS to Neelsville MS/Seneca Valley HS.

DCUM's gonna DCUM, I guess.

PP, here's the speech you're quoting from. FDR delivered it at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner on March 15, 1941.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/fdr24.htm

He was talking about the Lend-Lease Act.

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=71

PP: I don't think that the BOE and social justice warrior types are like Nazis, actually. They remind me much more closely of the people who ran both the Russian revolution in 2017 and the Chinese cultural revolution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Behold the true face of social justice warriors, delighting that their useless offspring may "jump" our kids prior to going to their predictable final destination of state prison and life of crime.

But then again, those of us who come from Communist countries are familiar with your type from our grandparents' experiences.

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers...call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

It's 7 am, and somebody on DCUM is calling Superintendent Jack Smith a Nazi because he reassigned one area of Clarksburg from Rocky Hill MS/Clarksburg HS to Neelsville MS/Seneca Valley HS.

DCUM's gonna DCUM, I guess.

PP, here's the speech you're quoting from. FDR delivered it at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner on March 15, 1941.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/fdr24.htm

He was talking about the Lend-Lease Act.

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=71

PP: I don't think that the BOE and social justice warrior types are like Nazis, actually. They remind me much more closely of the people who ran both the Russian revolution in 2017 and the Chinese cultural revolution.

Then, in the small picture, find a more suitable quote.

And, in the big picture - you're comparing people who want to change public-school boundaries in Montgomery County, Maryland, to the Russian Revolution and the Cultural Revolution. I'm speechless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody wants their children to be a social experiment and that’s just what MCPS is doing to the student body at these schools.

Reassigning students from one school to the next school over is not a social experiment.

don't tell the rabid segregationists that it's fun watching them get worked up into a lather over fictions and conspiracy theories

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come on. People are defending their constitutional rights. Have all of you read the appeal?

Which constitution grants them the right not to be reassigned to a different school within their school district?

Did you read the appeal?

The United States Supreme Court ruled that racial balancing is unconstitutional, in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

Well, it's a darn good thing MCPS didn't engage in racial balancing, then. Rather, they engaged in economic balancing while trying to maximize walkers.

This appeal will go nowhere, but the folks involved will be known as anti-integration types for as long as Google exists.

They love being on the wrong side of history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Behold the true face of social justice warriors, delighting that their useless offspring may "jump" our kids prior to going to their predictable final destination of state prison and life of crime.

But then again, those of us who come from Communist countries are familiar with your type from our grandparents' experiences.

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers...call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order" - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

It's 7 am, and somebody on DCUM is calling Superintendent Jack Smith a Nazi because he reassigned one area of Clarksburg from Rocky Hill MS/Clarksburg HS to Neelsville MS/Seneca Valley HS.

DCUM's gonna DCUM, I guess.

PP, here's the speech you're quoting from. FDR delivered it at the White House Correspondents' Association dinner on March 15, 1941.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/WorldWar2/fdr24.htm

He was talking about the Lend-Lease Act.

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=71

PP: I don't think that the BOE and social justice warrior types are like Nazis, actually. They remind me much more closely of the people who ran both the Russian revolution in 2017 and the Chinese cultural revolution.

Then, in the small picture, find a more suitable quote.

And, in the big picture - you're comparing people who want to change public-school boundaries in Montgomery County, Maryland, to the Russian Revolution and the Cultural Revolution. I'm speechless.

PP: I think that FDR's quote has transcended the initial setting of his speech, especially once it was emblazoned on the FDR memorial. While you, as a scholar, may see it differently, most people passing by the memorial and/or reading my post do not think of the Lend-Lease Act, but rather understand the greater impact of FDR's vision.

The comparison is not baseless. The BOE, while being very cute about it "not being about real estate values", is proposing to take $100K-$200K per FAMILY in well regarded school districts on the vacuous premise that somehow this mixing of the students will result in closing the achievement gap. Multiple previous experiments demonstrate that no such thing occurs for any long-term outcomes, and especially not in STEM. The problem lies in substandard curricula in American schools, especially at elementary and middle school level. The reason middle class students do well in STEM areas is that parents have to teach them independently of the schools, either in person or by hiring tutors, Saturday schools, enrichment activities, whatever. Parents that are not able to do that get kids that don't know anything. It's not rocket science. This latest redistricting initiative is redistribution of wealth, pure and simple. There is no educational component here. Next step is obviously jumping our kids when they are vulnerable and alone in school, because idiots beat up on smart people since time immemorial, it's normal and natural. Next step is getting the smart people to leave, so that your people can take over our devalued property and run it into the ground. What else is new. Every single revolution in the world is built along those basic value systems.

In the meantime, parents who invested their lives into their children are encouraged not to worry because their students' state testing scores stay steady under such redistricting reforms in other jurisdictions. I would certainly hope so, since state exams are written for the lowest possible denominator. By the time our children start failing state exams, clearly we have failed as their parents unless the children have a clear learning disability.

[Anonymous]

PP - seriously, please, just stop. Please.