Where do b students from big 3 schools go?

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

I love this post. My god what a pompous douchebag. Same colleges but the results will magically show later, because you say so. Riiight.

Different poster, but I agree that writing skills are often instilled early. That being said, I've met great writers who have graduated from MCPS magnet programs.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - Thank you for the (mostly) kind and generous responses. As I mentioned I was reaching out to the boards because sometimes the parent hive brain has good information the college counselors don't have about the big picture.

He will apply to a few SLAC's - he thinks he wants a big fun college with sports and a greek system but we are researching which SLAC's could work. He's going to try to get his ACT up- but he a really bad test taker so the person who said he
was lazy is incorrect. [i] Like I said, he's a hard working, well-liked, good kid. Feel lucky to have him- Fine with the fact that he has B's bc I know he is trying.

In hindsight grade-wise a big 3 may not have been the best way to go but he is happy, shines in his sport and socially, so it's all OK. I just really wasn't sure where the B kids go bc other parents at our school are sometimes, properly, not transparent about what kids' stats are.

Also he will be full pay OOS at the big state schools, it sounds like that is a factor which I naively wasn't giving enough weight to.

Since when does a “really bad test taker” get a 31 ACT? That is a decent score, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - Thank you for the (mostly) kind and generous responses. As I mentioned I was reaching out to the boards because sometimes the parent hive brain has good information the college counselors don't have about the big picture.

He will apply to a few SLAC's - he thinks he wants a big fun college with sports and a greek system but we are researching which SLAC's could work. He's going to try to get his ACT up- but he a really bad test taker so the person who said he
was lazy is incorrect. [i] Like I said, he's a hard working, well-liked, good kid. Feel lucky to have him- Fine with the fact that he has B's bc I know he is trying.

In hindsight grade-wise a big 3 may not have been the best way to go but he is happy, shines in his sport and socially, so it's all OK. I just really wasn't sure where the B kids go bc other parents at our school are sometimes, properly, not transparent about what kids' stats are.

Also he will be full pay OOS at the big state schools, it sounds like that is a factor which I naively wasn't giving enough weight to.

Since when does a “really bad test taker” get a 31 ACT? That is a decent score, OP.

For a truly average kid, yes, it’s good. Not for a UMC DMV kid with T-20 dreams.

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The daughter of a coworker went to a 20th ranked LAC from a big three.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

Less than 3% of the incoming class had below a 3.5 GPA per the common data set.

Common data is juked and spun. You don't know if that's weighted or unweighted. Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's unweighted: Over 15,000 admits per year, so 3% is over 500 < 3.5s? Add in the 3.6s, certainly north of a 1,000. We personally know "B" student family friends from elite preps currently at Michigan.

Each year is more competitive, so if your friends currently at Michigan are a junior or senior, then it has very little correlation to this past year or the current year. Michigan had a significant yield problem last year in that, too many kids accepted. As such, it is making it much more difficult for the 2024 cycle (ie the current senior class.)

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

Less than 3% of the incoming class had below a 3.5 GPA per the common data set.

Common data is juked and spun. You don't know if that's weighted or unweighted. Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's unweighted: Over 15,000 admits per year, so 3% is over 500 < 3.5s? Add in the 3.6s, certainly north of a 1,000. We personally know "B" student family friends from elite preps currently at Michigan.

Each year is more competitive, so if your friends currently at Michigan are a junior or senior, then it has very little correlation to this past year or the current year. Michigan had a significant yield problem last year in that, too many kids accepted. As such, it is making it much more difficult for the 2024 cycle (ie the current senior class.)

Additionally, the scale is different for in-state and OOS applicants. The scale is also different for recruited athletes, whose GPAs are likely a bit lower. Add those two groups to your 1000 and it leaves very little room for a B/3.0 "elite" school applicant to gain entry without any other hooks.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Lol.....I can spot strivers like you a mile away. You think that you’ve purchased some social capital by sending your child to private school but that’s not how it works dear. You’re still the same poorly bred, frumpy housewife and let’s just say that the Apple isn’t likely to fall far from the tree.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Lol.....I can spot strivers like you a mile away. You think that you’ve purchased some social capital by sending your child to private school but that’s not how it works dear. You’re still the same poorly bred, frumpy housewife and let’s just say that the Apple isn’t likely to fall far from the tree.

No lessons in civility at your private. Let’s hope your apples have a chance to roll as far from you as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Clearly not a parent of a Sidwell alum or Ivy student. Since 60%+ of my DC's Ivy classmates are public school graduates and about an equal proportion receive financial aid, most of DC's friends at college are "middle class public schoolers." Some are the first in their families to go to college, some are immigrants, half aren't white.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Clearly not a parent of a Sidwell alum or Ivy student. Since 60%+ of my DC's Ivy classmates are public school graduates and about an equal proportion receive financial aid, most of DC's friends at college are "middle class public schoolers." Some are the first in their families to go to college, some are immigrants, half aren't white.

+1 to this. My best friend from my Ivy went to Andover; I did not go to a school like that yet we both had a blast in college. She is and remains a very down to earth person (preppy in that New England practical way). You cant brush them all with the same brush. If anything the only insular sets I saw at the school were the super rich international students; they threw crazy parties downtown but they were not a group everyone was elbowing to join.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Clearly not a parent of a Sidwell alum or Ivy student. Since 60%+ of my DC's Ivy classmates are public school graduates and about an equal proportion receive financial aid, most of DC's friends at college are "middle class public schoolers." Some are the first in their families to go to college, some are immigrants, half aren't white.

Yeah, international "public" schools and elite domestics like Boston Latin, Stuyvesant, Scarsdale, Bronxville, TJ, Cupertino high school.

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Anonymous wrote:At our Big 3 (which has excellent college counseling), each family receives a sheet of paper which places their child into a grade cohort. The sheet then provides a list of schools where kids in that grade cohort have been accepted during the last three years.

OP - trust your school

This is excellent. What school is this?

STA

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Anonymous wrote:OP here - Thank you for the (mostly) kind and generous responses. As I mentioned I was reaching out to the boards because sometimes the parent hive brain has good information the college counselors don't have about the big picture.

He will apply to a few SLAC's - he thinks he wants a big fun college with sports and a greek system but we are researching which SLAC's could work. He's going to try to get his ACT up- but he a really bad test taker so the person who said he
was lazy is incorrect. Like I said, he's a hard working, well-liked, good kid. Feel lucky to have him- Fine with the fact that he has B's bc I know he is trying.

In hindsight grade-wise a big 3 may not have been the best way to go but he is happy, shines in his sport and socially, so it's all OK. I just really wasn't sure where the B kids go bc other parents at our school are sometimes, properly, not transparent about what kids' stats are.

Also he will be full pay OOS at the big state schools, it sounds like that is a factor which I naively wasn't giving enough weight to.

OP - Also include some sporty and slightly larger than SLAC schools like SMU on your list.

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Anonymous wrote:Fellow elite private school parent here. Remember guys this is a long term play. Private has smaller classes so our kids get more attention even if they end up at the same colleges. Writing skills, etc. tend to be stronger from private. As a lawyer, I have seen this at firms.

+1. Also soft skills and social network. Sidwell kids, for example, aren't hanging with middle class public schoolers in college. But of course all of this is over the head of hoi polloi who think their kid is the EXACT same as everyone they go to a certain college with. Campuses are stratified as hell. The playing field is never level.

Clearly not a parent of a Sidwell alum or Ivy student. Since 60%+ of my DC's Ivy classmates are public school graduates and about an equal proportion receive financial aid, most of DC's friends at college are "middle class public schoolers." Some are the first in their families to go to college, some are immigrants, half aren't white.

Yeah, international "public" schools and elite domestics like Boston Latin, Stuyvesant, Scarsdale, Bronxville, TJ, Cupertino high school.

Hilarious that you have no idea how much of a classist douche you are.

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SMU, Tulane, USC, Michigan, NYU