Where do b students from big 3 schools go?

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What are Big 3 high schools? Just moved her from Iowa. Thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:What are Big 3 high schools? Just moved her from Iowa. Thank you.


High schools that are ranked in the top 3 basketball or football rankings by the Washington Post.
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Anonymous wrote:What are Big 3 high schools? Just moved her from Iowa. Thank you.


High schools that are ranked in the top 3 basketball or football rankings by the Washington Post.


But seriously. It is what this board considers to be a top local high school where parents pay 40k per kid. Generally, they are biased to the top schools in DC: Sidwell and National Cathedral/Saint Alban's (one is boys and one is girls) are considered top. There is usually a debate as to who is third. Georgetown Day and Maret are usually in the mix for third. Some non-DC folks argue that Potomac (in Maryland) is there and Maryland people argue Holton Arms (girls school) though not its brother school, Landon. Those are the ones in the usual mix. Other privates are perceived to be a notch below such as Gonzaga, Georgetown Visitation (girls school), Flint Hill, etc.

The perception is that Sidwell, NCS, Albans, Maret, Potomac, and GDS tend to do the best in college acceptances. What it doesn't account for is legacy, athletes, and underrepresented minorities. Lot of them get in because of these reasons.
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Anonymous wrote:What are Big 3 high schools? Just moved her from Iowa. Thank you.


High schools that are ranked in the top 3 basketball or football rankings by the Washington Post.


But seriously. It is what this board considers to be a top local high school where parents pay 40k per kid. Generally, they are biased to the top schools in DC: Sidwell and National Cathedral/Saint Alban's (one is boys and one is girls) are considered top. There is usually a debate as to who is third. Georgetown Day and Maret are usually in the mix for third. Some non-DC folks argue that Potomac (in Maryland) is there and Maryland people argue Holton Arms (girls school) though not its brother school, Landon. Those are the ones in the usual mix. Other privates are perceived to be a notch below such as Gonzaga, Georgetown Visitation (girls school), Flint Hill, etc.

The perception is that Sidwell, NCS, Albans, Maret, Potomac, and GDS tend to do the best in college acceptances. What it doesn't account for is legacy, athletes, and underrepresented minorities. Lot of them get in because of these reasons.


Sorry meant Virginia for Potomac not Maryland
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To PP from Iowa to answer Big 3 question there is already a thread on this. But the argument around which are Big 3 Is always about 4 schools Sidwell, GDS and St Albans and Nat Cathedral (which some people count as one). Potomac and Maret are also Top 5. Holton should probably be included in the elite as well. Best to look at college acceptances and other factors and make your own call.
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Anonymous wrote:My ds had a b average from a mom big 3 private and a 30. Got into both unass and Skidmore among many others. B students from big 3 with 31 ish scores will get into many of the schools mentioned. Ignore all stats on gpa or class rank other than your school’s Naviance and talk to your counselor.


EXACTLY! School context really matters here, and solid Bs at Sidwell/STA/NCS/GDS is not the same as solid Bs at my kid's public school.

The kid should continue to discuss target schools with the counselor and applying to 6-7, not 3.


Many of these kids would be A students in public. The top DC private schools are very demanding.


Baloney re these kids being A students at public.


You are wrong. You should see the level of work that is asked of 8th graders at my kid’s school. As are a dime a dozen in public but much harder to get in these schools.


NP: While the kids at the top of public and private may be equally strong, and while the academic content may be similar, grading is very different. Only 9 students will come close to straight As by the end of senior year at our private school, and the head of school referred to that as unprecedented, an exceptionally strong class. No grade weighting, so the #10 student in the class has lower than 4.0, and also probably took the equivalent of 11 AP classes.
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Anonymous wrote:A lot, but by all means not all, GDS students are accepted at an Ivy/Stanford/Chicago/Michigan/Amherst.



LOL, no.

I have a lot of friends whose kids went to GDS and are there now. None of the recent graduates are at the caliber of schools you list. Great kids at wonderful schools, but really, no.


PP, I have a B student now at GDS. Which schools did the recent graduates go to?
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Anonymous wrote:My ds had a b average from a mom big 3 private and a 30. Got into both unass and Skidmore among many others. B students from big 3 with 31 ish scores will get into many of the schools mentioned. Ignore all stats on gpa or class rank other than your school’s Naviance and talk to your counselor.


EXACTLY! School context really matters here, and solid Bs at Sidwell/STA/NCS/GDS is not the same as solid Bs at my kid's public school.

The kid should continue to discuss target schools with the counselor and applying to 6-7, not 3.


Many of these kids would be A students in public. The top DC private schools are very demanding.


Baloney re these kids being A students at public.


You are wrong. You should see the level of work that is asked of 8th graders at my kid’s school. As are a dime a dozen in public but much harder to get in these schools.


NP: While the kids at the top of public and private may be equally strong, and while the academic content may be similar, grading is very different. Only 9 students will come close to straight As by the end of senior year at our private school, and the head of school referred to that as unprecedented, an exceptionally strong class. No grade weighting, so the #10 student in the class has lower than 4.0, and also probably took the equivalent of 11 AP classes.


We had only ten with straight A’s at our public after 11th grade, for those in the heavy-AP, highest rigor cohort. The private school parent perspective that public schools offer easy A’s is silly. (Though I grant it’s undoubtedly much easier to glide for those not choosing to challenge themselves. “Reg” classes are dumb-easy for kids who are capable of more advanced work.) As an aside, acceptances we’ve heard about so far from the top kids: Penn (Wharton), Stanford, Swarthmore, MIT, Georgia Tech.
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Anonymous wrote:Get him an ACT tutor. He still has time to increase his score.


That really won't make much of a difference in admissions for a solid B student. The pool of schools becomes wide and varied at this level.
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission


Not with a 3.0.


Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.


In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.
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Then your prep school has a problem.
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission


Not with a 3.0.


Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.


In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.


What school? Not Big 3.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you imbeciles constantly post how many applicants a college receives? The quality of those applicants is the relevant statistic.


Okay. Let’s talk quality in the DMV. My TJ kid with a mix of As and Bs in core classes (4.05W). Nothing below a B, except a B- in Chemistry (not a strong suit) and C+ in a semester math class freshman year. Upward trend in grades. Also male. Also a nice kid. Also strong (nonacademic) ECs. 1520 (749/780) SAT, 3 subject tests in Math 2, physics and Lit, all 740 or over (Math is an 800j.

My kid was deferred by Case Western and we expect a deferral by Northeastern in a couple weeks. Probably stands a 50/50 shot at both in the RD pool. Stronger for Case because they have a great program in his area of senior research that he want to continue and good demonstrated interest so he’s an actual good fit. In at Pitt with some merit and a 25-50 SLACs with great merit. Is most interested in RD schools, so we are waiting. One is WM where he stands a great chance with demonstrated interest and the “boy bump”. Is not competitive for UNC.


That's insane that your DS is not getting in at more places. He sounds incredible! I have a DS who's getting in at respectable places, but has nowhere near the motivation of your kid. I'm quite sure your DS will thrive in whatever he does.
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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission


Not with a 3.0.


Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.


In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.


What school? Not Big 3.


The average across all years, yes, that makes the chances look very good; but not the last three only -- you can't see that in Naviance, but the counselor will tell you. There has been a drastic shift.
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States are pressuring their schools to take more and more in state students, so the stats required for full pay out of state students has risen a lot in the last three years.

Also, look at private schools like NYU, where four years ago the medial sat was in the 1300s and last year it was 1500. Naviance becomes far less helpful when you have drastic admissions shift like this at a given school.
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