Where do b students from big 3 schools go?

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane, Barnard, NYU, Bucknell, Colgate, Wake Forest, Northeastern, Boston College, St. Andrews, UMiami & Wisconsin

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Very surprised if B students are getting into NYU.

NYU's median GPA is 3.66.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.

What school? Not Big 3.

The average across all years, yes, that makes the chances look very good; but not the last three only -- you can't see that in Naviance, but the counselor will tell you. There has been a drastic shift.

You don’t say Big 3, presumably because you are not talking about Big 3. At our Big 3, the Naviance they show you is for last 3 years. Medium GPA for admits well below 3.7.

Are you sure it is only showing the last three years? Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

It could be 4 years. At our Big 3, they don’t let you take the Naviance data with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.

What school? Not Big 3.

The average across all years, yes, that makes the chances look very good; but not the last three only -- you can't see that in Naviance, but the counselor will tell you. There has been a drastic shift.

You don’t say Big 3, presumably because you are not talking about Big 3. At our Big 3, the Naviance they show you is for last 3 years. Medium GPA for admits well below 3.7.

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Okay, so GPA "well below 3.7" for Michigan at your Big 3. What are the corresponding test scores?

High 1400 / Low 1500.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.

What school? Not Big 3.

The average across all years, yes, that makes the chances look very good; but not the last three only -- you can't see that in Naviance, but the counselor will tell you. There has been a drastic shift.

This doesn’t make any sense. Everyone says on this board that kids at the Big 3 who are B students (apparently everyone) would have A’s at Wilson BUT wouldn’t that make their test scores equivalent? The brightest kids are not getting a 1400 on their SAT, and would never get into Michigan with those scores. We know two Wilson kids last year in the 4.2-4.5 range with 34s who didn’t get in, and none of those who scored 32 (in the friend group).

So, it sounds like it definitely is a safety for underperforming kids at the Big 3, even though the Wilson kids who are academically stronger (per the test scores) and pay full freight as well. It also sounds like it’s not adding up re grades and test scores — which is it?

I'm probably not being clear, sorry. I was responding to the comment that prep school kids with 3.3 are getting in. I was not correlating SATs to grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan. Full pay OOS, elite prep = guarantee admission

Not with a 3.0.

Why do you have to exaggerate? "B" students are 3.0 to 3.6, are they not? Full pay OOS rich kids from an elite prep school are getting into Michigan with a 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6. All day long. Especially if they display demonstrated interest and apply early. Michigan is hard up for cash, obsessed with building its endowment and cultivating donor class.

In the last three years? Not according to our prep school Naviance. No one below 1400, no one below 3.7 UW.

What school? Not Big 3.

The average across all years, yes, that makes the chances look very good; but not the last three only -- you can't see that in Naviance, but the counselor will tell you. There has been a drastic shift.

You don’t say Big 3, presumably because you are not talking about Big 3. At our Big 3, the Naviance they show you is for last 3 years. Medium GPA for admits well below 3.7.

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Okay, so GPA "well below 3.7" for Michigan at your Big 3. What are the corresponding test scores?

High 1400 / Low 1500.

3.7 is an A- average. This thread is about B students.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane, Barnard, NYU, Bucknell, Colgate, Wake Forest, Northeastern, Boston College, St. Andrews, UMiami & Wisconsin

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Very surprised if B students are getting into NYU.

NYU's median GPA is 3.66.

Median...so half are below 3.66.

And is that 3.66 median admitted or actual matriculates? Big difference at a safety like NYU. If admitted, that’s artificially high.

Same points I’d use for Michigan; median and admitted numbers distort reality. How did Obama’s daughter and her friends all know they’d get into Michigan? Because Big 3 rich kids are shoo-ins.

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“ How did Obama’s daughter and her friends all know they’d get into Michigan?”

Bad example. Sasha would get into any elite school in this country, save Tech schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane, Barnard, NYU, Bucknell, Colgate, Wake Forest, Northeastern, Boston College, St. Andrews, UMiami & Wisconsin

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Very surprised if B students are getting into NYU.

NYU's median GPA is 3.66.

Median...so half are below 3.66.

And is that 3.66 median admitted or actual matriculates? Big difference at a safety like NYU. If admitted, that’s artificially high.

Same points I’d use for Michigan; median and admitted numbers distort reality. How did Obama’s daughter and her friends all know they’d get into Michigan? Because Big 3 rich kids are shoo-ins.

In 2019, 58% of enrolled first year students had a GPA below 3.74. Nearly half had a GPA below 3.49.