6 year old arrested at school. Florida, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


The officer who arrested her has now been fired. So that has been answered.


Due to public outcry and bad press.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


The officer who arrested her has now been fired. So that has been answered.


Due to public outcry and bad press.


Well there you go. Fire them all.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?


None apparently. It’s a “sleep disorder” according to her grandma who appears to be raising her.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?


None apparently. It’s a “sleep disorder” according to her grandma who appears to be raising her.


Then clearly the answer is to fire the staff.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?


None apparently. It’s a “sleep disorder” according to her grandma who appears to be raising her.


Then clearly the answer is to fire the staff.


Or put the kid in a self contained class if she can’t keep her $hit together.
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Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


It IS appalling. Those of you excusing handcuffing and treating a SIX year old like this officer did are just disgusting people.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?


None apparently. It’s a “sleep disorder” according to her grandma who appears to be raising her.


Is that why her biological parents abandoned her? I would assume the kid was wildly out of control for the officer to resort to handcuffing her. Would you have preferred they shot her with a tranquilizer dart?
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Anonymous wrote:I would assume the kid was wildly out of control for the officer to resort to handcuffing her.


You can assume til you're blue in the face - doesn't change the fact that the fool got fired for doing what he did.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


The officer who arrested her has now been fired. So that has been answered.


Due to public outcry and bad press.


Not because of his prior arrests and being told many times not to arrest little kids.
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Anonymous wrote:And an 8 year old in the same week.

This is sickening and absolutely a racial thing. School to Prison Pipeline right here.

I live in Orlando and it's very much in the news in a WTAF sort of way, so it's not like everyone down here is "what, what's the problem." The officer was suspended and the prosecutor refused to do jack about it, so the "system" is at least working there. Despite the fact that the system never should have been invoked.

The officer is black.


DP but officers of every color feel much freer to arrest and mistreat black children than white. A racial thing doesn't necessarily mean personal animus - most racism is societal. Society will bring the hammer down on a cop that arrests a little white girl, regardless of context. Meanwhile society, as expressed by DCUM, will go give us countless logical contortions about the vicious kicking beast that had to be controlled when the story is about a black girl.


Wow, that is an iron clad excuse of all excuses if you ask me. Well done!


I'm sorry you don't understand structural racism. There are approximately infinity studies on the topic showing that black people get arrested for things white people get warnings for; that black children's misbehavior is criminalized while white children get timeouts. Reality isn't usually seen as an "excuse," but I guess if you really don't want reality acknowledged you might be a tad miffed.


O.k. so the answer is to allow a little girl suffering from behavioral issues caused by sleep apnea to continue to kick the crap out of her teacher, disrupt her classroom and defy authority? You know that's crazy, right?


She didn't kick her teacher, she kicked a staffer in the principal's office. And even then, she didn't "kick the crap out of" anyone, she kicked someone once, and only after they grabbed her arms. But keep up the "vicious kicking beast" narrative. It's a great look. You're not on the wrong side of this narrative at all, with all your made up facts and demands for complete obeisance from first graders.


You are saying that the school staff mishandled the situation? If they had handled it correctly a resource officer would not have been brought in?

Believe it or not, I do find the idea of a 6 year old being arrested pretty appalling. But I also find it hard to believe that a situation with a 6 year old ever escalated to this level in the first place. I have personally never witnessed anything remotely like this and I tend to think that this was a highly unusual situation.


Yes, I am saying that the school staff mishandled the situation. The girl was having a tantrum but no one was hit or kicked until she was grabbed by a staffer. That means it was the school employee who escalated this from a tantrum to physical contact. This school had TWO different 6 year olds arrested in the same day in separate incidents, both arrests resulted in an apology from the Chief of Police and a chastisement from the State Attorney for participating in the school-to-prison pipeline. Nothing about that says "gee this school probably handled everything correctly!"

So I turn, again, to your incredulous "she must have deserved it, let me make some stuff up" positioning here. There's nothing to defend here, yet you can't seem to stop defending it. I notice you didn't even address the fact you fabricated facts to support your credulous authority uber alles nonsense. What is your end game, exactly? It's not getting to the bottom of the situation or you wouldn't be making stuff up.


In my experience the staff at the schools really care about the kids and handle them (especially the little ones) with great kindness and compassion. That is my experience with my own children and that is my experience as a parent volunteer over the years. I have student taught middle school but I have never been a teacher, myself - took a different path.

I don't think that we have all of the details as to what happened in this situation. Most of what we're getting is coming from the child's very upset parent/guardian who is relaying what she was told because she wasn't there herself.

I am not fabricating facts at all, maybe you know things that I don't. All I can say is that it would be highly unusual for so many elementary school staff members to have such a hard time dealing with a typical childhood meltdown.


This is a lie. We have also heard from the Chief of Police and the State Attorney. Nevertheless, you persist in assuming that the procedures were followed. You also said she "kicked the crap out of her teacher." That didn't happen and wasn't reported anywhere. You apparently haven't even read coverage of what happened, just a headline or two, and come on here FABRICATING a narrative that paints the girl as a monster and all the adults as reasonable. Your experience as a parent volunteer is less than meaningless. You are embarrassing yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:I am not surprised to see this is a charter school. I wonder if this is a calculated move to arrest students with discipline problems so the parents move them back to their neighborhood school. Meanwhile as the discipline problems filter back to the neighborhood school, parents looking for a school climate without all those disruptive kids will move their kids to the charter school. Once this blows over the charter school isn't going to have regrets about this incident. Someone needs to reel in the charter school practice of getting rid of difficult students.


You are calling this 6 year old child a "discipline problem" after one meltdown and after she kicked one staff member one time?


Well many of us have managed to raise children who don’t kick people ever...especially not teachers at school...so...


...so... she deserved to be arrested?


No, I am saying she IS objectively a discipline problem. You seem to object to that since you put it in quotes.


She's an innocent 6 year old girl. Maybe it's a little early to be labeling her? What kind of help was she getting for her self control issues?


None apparently. It’s a “sleep disorder” according to her grandma who appears to be raising her.


Is that why her biological parents abandoned her? I would assume the kid was wildly out of control for the officer to resort to handcuffing her. Would you have preferred they shot her with a tranquilizer dart?


Are you proud of yourself? You people are trash.
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Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


It IS appalling. Those of you excusing handcuffing and treating a SIX year old like this officer did are just disgusting people.


A PP here. Not excusing it. But to act like a school aged child kicking an adult is normal is false and not helpful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


It IS appalling. Those of you excusing handcuffing and treating a SIX year old like this officer did are just disgusting people.


A PP here. Not excusing it. But to act like a school aged child kicking an adult is normal is false and not helpful.


Didn't dude get fired?
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