6 year old arrested at school. Florida, of course.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


I trust that the teacher and the rest of the school staff attempted to bring the girl under control before they brought the officer in to handle the situation.

This is one of those you had to see it to believe it I'm sure. There is probably some sort of security footage showing what the school/the officer were dealing with.

If Dulce *just* kicked a teacher, had settled down and the officer was just trying to put the fear of God into her by arresting her - that is another story entirely.


Even if she weren’t behaving and didn’t settle down, how is arresting her the right answer? Officers are supposed to de escalate situations. How is this child helped by being sent to a juvenile detention center for having a tantrum at school? And the officer has done it twice in a week, plus he has a history of excessive force. This isn’t how we’re supposed to treat our kids.


I don't know. Apparently the school felt it was necessary to bring the resource officer into the situation? I'm sure that there is more to this story. It would be great to get the big picture as to why this happened.

Was this a first time or one of many? Did the girl calm down or was she actively defying the adults trying to settle her down? Whatever the situation was, I hope her parent/guardian takes this very seriously and gets this little girl the help that she so desperately needs.
Anonymous
A civilized society does not arrest a six-year-old (and an eight-year-old on the same day.) And civilized human beings do not condone it.
Anonymous
A sleep disorders does not cause a 6yo to throw a tantrum at school and then kick an adult. These kids seem to have no idea how to behave.. I'd be livid if my kid did this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A civilized society does not arrest a six-year-old (and an eight-year-old on the same day.) And civilized human beings do not condone it.


So just send her back to class and let her kick the sh*t out of her teacher? What if she kicks another kid in the head? What if she hurts herself while she is so out of control?

You are assuming that the resource cop was a power hungry ahole who liked pushing little kids around. Does that even make a bit of sense to you? Maybe the officer was trying to get this kid's problems documented so that she would get the help that she needs. He didn't follow procedure and get the arrest approved so he has been fired.

But was is the school supposed to do next time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


I trust that the teacher and the rest of the school staff attempted to bring the girl under control before they brought the officer in to handle the situation.

This is one of those you had to see it to believe it I'm sure. There is probably some sort of security footage showing what the school/the officer were dealing with.

If Dulce *just* kicked a teacher, had settled down and the officer was just trying to put the fear of God into her by arresting her - that is another story entirely.


Even if she weren’t behaving and didn’t settle down, how is arresting her the right answer? Officers are supposed to de escalate situations. How is this child helped by being sent to a juvenile detention center for having a tantrum at school? And the officer has done it twice in a week, plus he has a history of excessive force. This isn’t how we’re supposed to treat our kids.


I don't know. Apparently the school felt it was necessary to bring the resource officer into the situation? I'm sure that there is more to this story. It would be great to get the big picture as to why this happened.

Was this a first time or one of many? Did the girl calm down or was she actively defying the adults trying to settle her down? Whatever the situation was, I hope her parent/guardian takes this very seriously and gets this little girl the help that she so desperately needs.


Schools have disciplinary procedures in place, which include suspension or expulsion for extreme cases. Does your elementary school student handbook include cuffing and arresting children who don’t behave? My kids’ schools never listed that as an option. Even if she were behaving very poorly, adults breaking rules about discipline haven’t resulted in any of them getting arrested. The officer is suspended I believe, which seems entirely appropriate while the incident is investigated. It’s more courtesy than he gave the children.

I know I shouldn’t be so bothered by someone on the internet disagreeing with me, but the fact that some people think this is okay is troubling to me. You could be teachers or officers dealing with my kids or their friends, shaping their lives. I know everyone can’t be on the same page always, but arresting kindergarteners and first graders really shouldn’t be an option.

I agree with you that I hope she gets help for whatever issues she had or may arise from this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not sure what happened (link not working) but if the teacher/guidance/admin felt that the situation warranted an officer being brought in to handle it, I would imagine that the little girl's behavior was a danger to herself, her classmates and the staff.

I don't know if she needs medication, counseling or some other sort of intervention. Hopefully she'll get the help she needs.

Link is here: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-officer-suspended-after-arresting-two-kids-ages-6-8-n1057441
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A sleep disorders does not cause a 6yo to throw a tantrum at school and then kick an adult. These kids seem to have no idea how to behave.. I'd be livid if my kid did this.


Lack of sleep definitely causes poor behavior, as well as exacerbating mental health issues and physical health problems. Don’t you feel at least a little grouchy when you don’t sleep well? Isn’t it worse after several nights? Now imagine feeling like that with the mental abilities and impulse control of a 6 year old. It could definitely lead to a tantrum, and tantruming kids sometimes kick.

It’s not a good situation. It’s not okay behavior. But it’s not arrest-worthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only kicked someone. Gosh... that’s good to hear?



Seriously, WTF? We now expect our teachers to put up with physical abuse from their students? Come on. Let the teachers teach. This kid needs some sort of serious intervention and if her parent/guardian isn't providing it then maybe it needs to be court ordered.


So you think a kindergartner or first grader kicking someone means they should be arrested. I find that appalling.

Once a child was bothering my DD in first grade so she bit her. I guess we should have brought back the electric chair.


I trust that the teacher and the rest of the school staff attempted to bring the girl under control before they brought the officer in to handle the situation.

This is one of those you had to see it to believe it I'm sure. There is probably some sort of security footage showing what the school/the officer were dealing with.

If Dulce *just* kicked a teacher, had settled down and the officer was just trying to put the fear of God into her by arresting her - that is another story entirely.


Even if she weren’t behaving and didn’t settle down, how is arresting her the right answer? Officers are supposed to de escalate situations. How is this child helped by being sent to a juvenile detention center for having a tantrum at school? And the officer has done it twice in a week, plus he has a history of excessive force. This isn’t how we’re supposed to treat our kids.


I don't know. Apparently the school felt it was necessary to bring the resource officer into the situation? I'm sure that there is more to this story. It would be great to get the big picture as to why this happened.

Was this a first time or one of many? Did the girl calm down or was she actively defying the adults trying to settle her down? Whatever the situation was, I hope her parent/guardian takes this very seriously and gets this little girl the help that she so desperately needs.


Schools have disciplinary procedures in place, which include suspension or expulsion for extreme cases. Does your elementary school student handbook include cuffing and arresting children who don’t behave? My kids’ schools never listed that as an option. Even if she were behaving very poorly, adults breaking rules about discipline haven’t resulted in any of them getting arrested. The officer is suspended I believe, which seems entirely appropriate while the incident is investigated. It’s more courtesy than he gave the children.

I know I shouldn’t be so bothered by someone on the internet disagreeing with me, but the fact that some people think this is okay is troubling to me. You could be teachers or officers dealing with my kids or their friends, shaping their lives. I know everyone can’t be on the same page always, but arresting kindergarteners and first graders really shouldn’t be an option.

I agree with you that I hope she gets help for whatever issues she had or may arise from this.


What makes you think that the school didn't follow the procedures available to them? If they suspended the kid and the parent/guardian refused to pick her up what then?

I honestly don't know what the school would do in that situation. Call child protective services and allow the social work to get kicked by the kid? What do you do?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A sleep disorders does not cause a 6yo to throw a tantrum at school and then kick an adult. These kids seem to have no idea how to behave.. I'd be livid if my kid did this.


Lack of sleep definitely causes poor behavior, as well as exacerbating mental health issues and physical health problems. Don’t you feel at least a little grouchy when you don’t sleep well? Isn’t it worse after several nights? Now imagine feeling like that with the mental abilities and impulse control of a 6 year old. It could definitely lead to a tantrum, and tantruming kids sometimes kick.

It’s not a good situation. It’s not okay behavior. But it’s not arrest-worthy.


O.k....if the parent/guardian *knows* that the kid is suffering from sleep apnea why isn't the condition being treated? Isn't sleep apnea potentially life threatening?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And an 8 year old in the same week.

This is sickening and absolutely a racial thing. School to Prison Pipeline right here.

I live in Orlando and it's very much in the news in a WTAF sort of way, so it's not like everyone down here is "what, what's the problem." The officer was suspended and the prosecutor refused to do jack about it, so the "system" is at least working there. Despite the fact that the system never should have been invoked.


Actually, the story was updated and it was another six year old. On the same day at the same school. What a farce.
Anonymous
I would love to hear that resource officer's POV on all of this. I totally understand why the teacher and school staff aren't free to discuss the details. But it would be great to know why the officer felt the need to arrest this child and what on earth was going through his mind.

My guess is he was a good person trying to do a good thing for that kid. But maybe he is a jerk. Not enough info to know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And an 8 year old in the same week.

This is sickening and absolutely a racial thing. School to Prison Pipeline right here.

I live in Orlando and it's very much in the news in a WTAF sort of way, so it's not like everyone down here is "what, what's the problem." The officer was suspended and the prosecutor refused to do jack about it, so the "system" is at least working there. Despite the fact that the system never should have been invoked.


Actually, the story was updated and it was another six year old. On the same day at the same school. What a farce.


I saw an update stating that the officer has been terminated.
Anonymous
GMAFB... the officer has issues.

He has been arrested for beating his own 7yo child.

There is NO...NONE...NADA reason to arrest and 8 year old!
Anonymous
I am equally disturbed as other posters that some posters seem to think that there are any circumstances in which arresting a 6 YEAR OLD would be justified. Because the child is 6. I don't care if the child is the brattiest brat that ever bratted, it's not ok.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GMAFB... the officer has issues.

He has been arrested for beating his own 7yo child.

There is NO...NONE...NADA reason to arrest and 8 year old!


How was a man who was arrested for beating a child employed as a resource officer?? Crazy!

Why would the school bring a person like that in to handle a run of the mill tantrum? More questions than answers here!
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