The St James FC Virginia vs Richmond United Scrimmages

[Anonymous]

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Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

What history? GDA is going into year 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Having a bad U Little feeder team in a crowded landscape where many clubs have a carrot to offer is exactly that drastic thing. Teams tend to stay together if they are successful and nothing is pushing them out the door.

GFR currently has a in house DA. Exactly what would be the reason for kids to leave that team for a bad team? What exactly is the lure? Did that lure work with Loudoun this year as it had in years past?

When a team gets their ass kicked at these ages an ambitious parent usually calls the winning teams coach. That is how good core teams add talent over the years.

“We killed that team 11-0, let’s call up and see if they have a spot on the roster” said no parent ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Sorry, but Arlington is much closer to MU level than to FCV's level. Arlington did not do so hot against ECNL clubs in recent scrimmages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

What history? GDA is going into year 3.

The BDA has been around for about a decade and provides the example. But you do you and keep hoping that Loudoun will become a national powerhouse because FCV U12s are ranked 34 or some crap like that. Ignore history all you want.

I am done discussing this with someone that is clueless and has no interest in learning from people have already gone through all this multiple times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Having a bad U Little feeder team in a crowded landscape where many clubs have a carrot to offer is exactly that drastic thing. Teams tend to stay together if they are successful and nothing is pushing them out the door.

GFR currently has a in house DA. Exactly what would be the reason for kids to leave that team for a bad team? What exactly is the lure? Did that lure work with Loudoun this year as it had in years past?

When a team gets their ass kicked at these ages an ambitious parent usually calls the winning teams coach. That is how good core teams add talent over the years.

“We killed that team 11-0, let’s call up and see if they have a spot on the roster” said no parent ever.

Thank you for putting your astounding ignorance on display AGAIN. Along my kids journey through youth soccer, I could count dozens of one-off teams at smaller, local clubs that put together a good squad that won blowout games like you describe only to have those kids leave a short time later for a bigger stage.

Feeder club means nothing for DAs. NOTHING. DCU has no feeder club. Bethesda draws from all across the area and even Pennsylvania. FCV has players from Williamsburg.

You really think convenience matters above all else at that level? Never mind. I should know better than asking for intelligent thought here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

What history? GDA is going into year 3.

The BDA has been around for about a decade and provides the example. But you do you and keep hoping that Loudoun will become a national powerhouse because FCV U12s are ranked 34 or some crap like that. Ignore history all you want.

I am done discussing this with someone that is clueless and has no interest in learning from people have already gone through all this multiple times.

And that is the thing. You have gone through it when it was different. Do we assume the Patriots are going to always be great because they have been for over a decade?

Things change. Many things out of FCV's control have changed around them. With the amount of dilution a single player here or there will swing the balance for the fortunes of any club team. There are also some very big changes coming in FCV's future with the eventual changing their location and their overall talent pool. Eventually heading to Springfield will certainly help Loudoun.

These things could also help FCV but it is far from certain how the move will truly help or hurt FCV. But one thing is coming pretty clear and that is the Loudoun player pool is starting to dry up for them with Loudoun getting ECNL. Loudoun coaches may not be nearly as good as FCV's but regardless, as long as the parents and players are happy it is talent that FCV will not get their hands on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Having a bad U Little feeder team in a crowded landscape where many clubs have a carrot to offer is exactly that drastic thing. Teams tend to stay together if they are successful and nothing is pushing them out the door.

GFR currently has a in house DA. Exactly what would be the reason for kids to leave that team for a bad team? What exactly is the lure? Did that lure work with Loudoun this year as it had in years past?

When a team gets their ass kicked at these ages an ambitious parent usually calls the winning teams coach. That is how good core teams add talent over the years.

“We killed that team 11-0, let’s call up and see if they have a spot on the roster” said no parent ever.

Thank you for putting your astounding ignorance on display AGAIN. Along my kids journey through youth soccer, I could count dozens of one-off teams at smaller, local clubs that put together a good squad that won blowout games like you describe only to have those kids leave a short time later for a bigger stage.

Feeder club means nothing for DAs. NOTHING. DCU has no feeder club. Bethesda draws from all across the area and even Pennsylvania. FCV has players from Williamsburg.

You really think convenience matters above all else at that level? Never mind. I should know better than asking for intelligent thought here.

Yes, but now many clubs have a golden ticket. Kids are less likely to leave. Again, how many outside kids joined FCV's 07 DA this year. Your head is in the sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^

Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Having a bad U Little feeder team in a crowded landscape where many clubs have a carrot to offer is exactly that drastic thing. Teams tend to stay together if they are successful and nothing is pushing them out the door.

GFR currently has a in house DA. Exactly what would be the reason for kids to leave that team for a bad team? What exactly is the lure? Did that lure work with Loudoun this year as it had in years past?

When a team gets their ass kicked at these ages an ambitious parent usually calls the winning teams coach. That is how good core teams add talent over the years.

“We killed that team 11-0, let’s call up and see if they have a spot on the roster” said no parent ever.

Thank you for putting your astounding ignorance on display AGAIN. Along my kids journey through youth soccer, I could count dozens of one-off teams at smaller, local clubs that put together a good squad that won blowout games like you describe only to have those kids leave a short time later for a bigger stage.

Feeder club means nothing for DAs. NOTHING. DCU has no feeder club. Bethesda draws from all across the area and even Pennsylvania. FCV has players from Williamsburg.

You really think convenience matters above all else at that level? Never mind. I should know better than asking for intelligent thought here.

FCV is far from being DCU. Please, stop right there.

Your sales pitch to an outsider has to be development. It is hard to sell that when the current team you are asking them to join is at the level of a bad NCSL team. The coach is really gonna be able to sell development when the team they are selling sucks?

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Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

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Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

What history? GDA is going into year 3.

The BDA has been around for about a decade and provides the example. But you do you and keep hoping that Loudoun will become a national powerhouse because FCV U12s are ranked 34 or some crap like that. Ignore history all you want.

I am done discussing this with someone that is clueless and has no interest in learning from people have already gone through all this multiple times.

And that is the thing. You have gone through it when it was different. Do we assume the Patriots are going to always be great because they have been for over a decade?

Things change. Many things out of FCV's control have changed around them. With the amount of dilution a single player here or there will swing the balance for the fortunes of any club team. There are also some very big changes coming in FCV's future with the eventual changing their location and their overall talent pool. Eventually heading to Springfield will certainly help Loudoun.

These things could also help FCV but it is far from certain how the move will truly help or hurt FCV. But one thing is coming pretty clear and that is the Loudoun player pool is starting to dry up for them with Loudoun getting ECNL. Loudoun coaches may not be nearly as good as FCV's but regardless, as long as the parents and players are happy it is talent that FCV will not get their hands on.

You’re so funny. Didn’t Loudoun’s best 03g ecnl player leave to play for McLean ECNL. Didn’t you lose an 05 ecnl player this past season? The ones that stayed didn’t have a choice. FCV is like a plague and I hope they go away. Unfortunately they’re staying because parents like their name and will tolerate them because their DD is the next and upcoming Rose Lavelle lol.

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Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

Come on. You cannot be this dense. Take a look at any of the top teams in ANY older age group in almost EVERY geographic area and you will find very few of those players started on that team. Most kids will play locally at first since the families have no idea how serious their child is going to be. Some will stay local a little longer for friendships or a coach but eventually the talent consolidates and it certainly doesn't consolidate equally. Great falls and vsa are not collecting talent. That is flat out stupid to say.

Again, all true 4+ years ago.

FCV teams have been steadily being primarily home grown talent over the last few years. The 07’s having added only a couple of outside kids. How many left Loudoun, VSA, McLean for FCV 07?

Years ago half a FCV roster came from outside clubs. This year only a couple. The thing that changed was players on good teams now with pathways stayed with their home club. Like it or not, the numbers and the new landscape doesn’t lie.

FCV, just like everyone else will more than ever have to rely on their U Little recruitment as later recruiting gets harder with more and more competition.

Listen. Just because you keep saying it over and over again, doesn't make what you are saying any less ignorant. You are probably the same guy will criticize a club as recruiting for having too many outside players on the roster and then criticize the same club as not attracting outside talent when they have more "homegrown" talent. Maybe every club should check with you prior to forming rosters so that they can make sure they are doing it right.

You are a dime-a-dozen arrogant ignoramus. Just be happy with your DCs team and club and leave everyone else alone.

FCV will stay great because you say so? And I’m arrogant.

You can look back all you want to or you can look at a bad team as a bad sign. The market that drove kids to FCV before is no longer the same. FCV is no longer even attracting the best overall talent in their own county.

When players stayed at Loudoun for 07 that should say volumes.

History is on the side of the DA being and staying a destination. You have no history behind your asinine rants. You are HOPING that your daughter's club (which presumably is Loudoun since you can't stop talking about them) will be relevant and atop the meaningless gotsoccer rankings. Why lock her into your hope? Be open-minded and see where things take her and let her make the decisions. Seriously.

What history? GDA is going into year 3.

The BDA has been around for about a decade and provides the example. But you do you and keep hoping that Loudoun will become a national powerhouse because FCV U12s are ranked 34 or some crap like that. Ignore history all you want.

I am done discussing this with someone that is clueless and has no interest in learning from people have already gone through all this multiple times.

And that is the thing. You have gone through it when it was different. Do we assume the Patriots are going to always be great because they have been for over a decade?

Things change. Many things out of FCV's control have changed around them. With the amount of dilution a single player here or there will swing the balance for the fortunes of any club team. There are also some very big changes coming in FCV's future with the eventual changing their location and their overall talent pool. Eventually heading to Springfield will certainly help Loudoun.

These things could also help FCV but it is far from certain how the move will truly help or hurt FCV. But one thing is coming pretty clear and that is the Loudoun player pool is starting to dry up for them with Loudoun getting ECNL. Loudoun coaches may not be nearly as good as FCV's but regardless, as long as the parents and players are happy it is talent that FCV will not get their hands on.

You’re so funny. Didn’t Loudoun’s best 03g ecnl player leave to play for McLean ECNL. Didn’t you lose an 05 ecnl player this past season? The ones that stayed didn’t have a choice. FCV is like a plague and I hope they go away. Unfortunately they’re staying because parents like their name and will tolerate them because their DD is the next and upcoming Rose Lavelle lol.

Loudoun's best 03 players left years ago when they didn't have ECNL.

How many Loudoun 07's left versus years past? How many 08's will leave, 09's?

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Nobody left for 07 and that was a good team.

Please, nobody is leaving a team with a similar pathway to play on a team worse than Loudoun Green.

No sane parent is making that move.

haha.

ok

Then why are the players not there now?

It is about the team your kid will be playing on not the logo on the jersey.

I’m sure kids on Loudoun White or silver will kick the tires at FCV but that’s about it. Good luck being a destination when you give up over 15 goals over a weekend.

See above. WHY do you think the 15 goals matter if they all came in one age group that was not playing it's A team? This is as ridiculous as the scrimmage results debate. Wait past the first weekend to make judgments.

Why do results matter at all at the youngest ages? Seriously? Anyone bragging about U12 results need to step away from the keyboard and go educate themselves on the sport. Are we really talking about soccer rankings for 2008 kids?

Exactly. From GotSoccer no less. Geez.

Funny how nearly all other previous FCV teams at these ages were all top ten and those teams continued to succeed at ECNL/DA level. And now 34th in more competitive landscape it’s all “nothing to see here” because kids on a team nearly 10 years older are good?

Nothing funny about you caring about soccer rankings at U12 and younger. That is sad not funny.

Regardless, the DA teams (STJ/FCV and Arlingtion) in any age group will continue to be among the top 3 teams every year in the area unless something drastically changes in the landscape. MU is an exception because GFR is not a DA level club. MU needs a bigger stronger partner to survive.

Having a bad U Little feeder team in a crowded landscape where many clubs have a carrot to offer is exactly that drastic thing. Teams tend to stay together if they are successful and nothing is pushing them out the door.

GFR currently has a in house DA. Exactly what would be the reason for kids to leave that team for a bad team? What exactly is the lure? Did that lure work with Loudoun this year as it had in years past?

When a team gets their ass kicked at these ages an ambitious parent usually calls the winning teams coach. That is how good core teams add talent over the years.

“We killed that team 11-0, let’s call up and see if they have a spot on the roster” said no parent ever.

Thank you for putting your astounding ignorance on display AGAIN. Along my kids journey through youth soccer, I could count dozens of one-off teams at smaller, local clubs that put together a good squad that won blowout games like you describe only to have those kids leave a short time later for a bigger stage.

Feeder club means nothing for DAs. NOTHING. DCU has no feeder club. Bethesda draws from all across the area and even Pennsylvania. FCV has players from Williamsburg.

You really think convenience matters above all else at that level? Never mind. I should know better than asking for intelligent thought here.

FCV is far from being DCU. Please, stop right there.

Your sales pitch to an outsider has to be development. It is hard to sell that when the current team you are asking them to join is at the level of a bad NCSL team. The coach is really gonna be able to sell development when the team they are selling sucks?

Today, right now, FCV is the girls DCU for this area. They are where most of them he top talent is consolidating. Not EVERY top player but DCU doesn’t have EVERY top player either.