Studies on "integrated schools"

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

Give me a school with all poor kids or minorities that have top test scores and I'd send my kid there. Unfortunately, it's like a rainbow unicorn. The fact that I want my kid with high performers doesn't make me racist or elitist. I work very hard with my kid.

So you'd be fine with poor kids or minorities, if they had top test scores. But they don't, so you're not.

I want my kids surrounded by hard working/high performing kids. I don't want my kids surrounded by kids who aren't.

But that's not how public schools work here. In the public school you're zoned for, your kids are surrounded by kids who live in the area zoned for the public school you're zoned for. Some of these kids work hard, some of them don't. Some of these kids have high test scores, some of them don't.

And that is why the OLD HGC/CES system worked. I knew my smart kid had other similarly smart kids as classmates. Now that is no longer a given.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

Give me a school with all poor kids or minorities that have top test scores and I'd send my kid there. Unfortunately, it's like a rainbow unicorn. The fact that I want my kid with high performers doesn't make me racist or elitist. I work very hard with my kid.

So you'd be fine with poor kids or minorities, if they had top test scores. But they don't, so you're not.

I want my kids surrounded by hard working/high performing kids. I don't want my kids surrounded by kids who aren't.

But that's not how public schools work here. In the public school you're zoned for, your kids are surrounded by kids who live in the area zoned for the public school you're zoned for. Some of these kids work hard, some of them don't. Some of these kids have high test scores, some of them don't.

And that is why the OLD HGC/CES system worked. I knew my smart kid had other similarly smart kids as classmates. Now that is no longer a given.

If your kid is in an application magnet program anyway, why would you even care who is zoned for your home school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

But MCPS boundaries are based on residence, not academic performance. Any boundary changes would also be based on residence, not academic performance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

But MCPS boundaries are based on residence, not academic performance. Any boundary changes would also be based on residence, not academic performance.

As of last fall, the BoE voted to prioritize diversity over the other criteria when making these decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

But MCPS boundaries are based on residence, not academic performance. Any boundary changes would also be based on residence, not academic performance.

As of last fall, the BoE voted to prioritize diversity over the other criteria when making these decisions.

No, that is not what BoE voted.

Also, BoE does not include "academic performance" as a demographic factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

But MCPS boundaries are based on residence, not academic performance. Any boundary changes would also be based on residence, not academic performance.

As of last fall, the BoE voted to prioritize diversity over the other criteria when making these decisions.

Exactly - I saw that in the paper and read about it here. However, it seems like a lot of people are in denial.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate when rich educated people pretend that poor performers will magically become top performers by getting bussed to schools with high performers. What a hoot. Where in the world has that ever happened?

I hate when people claim that this is about test scores.

It’s about academic performance.

And yes, at some point coddled kids in america are going to have to compete. There will be high performers, mediocre ones and low ones.

But MCPS boundaries are based on residence, not academic performance. Any boundary changes would also be based on residence, not academic performance.

As of last fall, the BoE voted to prioritize diversity over the other criteria when making these decisions.

Exactly - I saw that in the paper and read about it here. However, it seems like a lot of people are in denial.

You’re all just arguing about apples vs apples. Most low performers tend to cluster among certain racial groups and tend to live in certain neighborhoods. Most high performers tend to come from households in certain racial groups and neighborhoods. Yes, there are outliers outside of these norms but they don’t represent a large population. So whether the BoE says diversity or academic performance, they are targeting the SAME groups.

[Anonymous]

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You’re all just arguing about apples vs apples. Most low performers tend to cluster among certain racial groups and tend to live in certain neighborhoods. Most high performers tend to come from households in certain racial groups and neighborhoods. Yes, there are outliers outside of these norms but they don’t represent a large population. So whether the BoE says diversity or academic performance, they are targeting the SAME groups.

But it's not like it's about race/ethnicity or anything...

[Anonymous]

Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

It's 2019, not 1995, and you really need to get out more.

Also, I haven't noticed any difference between poor kids and rich kids in the saying of please and thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

Maybe they can have a rich mom take in a homeless kid and get him to be division 1 athlete at her Alma Mater.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

It's 2019, not 1995, and you really need to get out more.

Also, I haven't noticed any difference between poor kids and rich kids in the saying of please and thank you.

What about the acing of Trig Mrs. Literal ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

It's 2019, not 1995, and you really need to get out more.

Also, I haven't noticed any difference between poor kids and rich kids in the saying of please and thank you.

What about the acing of Trig Mrs. Literal ?

There is no trigonometry class. Do you even live in Montgomery County?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think they will make a Michelle Pfeiffer movie where the rich white kids show up to Kennedy and the next thing you know all the poor kids start saying please & thank you while acing trigonometry. All while McKinley learns how to braid her BFFs hair and Thad takes Laquita to prom and she teaches him how to dance. Man I can see it all now

It's 2019, not 1995, and you really need to get out more.

Also, I haven't noticed any difference between poor kids and rich kids in the saying of please and thank you.

What about the acing of Trig Mrs. Literal ?

There is no trigonometry class. Do you even live in Montgomery County?

I am just going to save you the indignation, Thad and Laquita aren’t real kids either.