Blair pyramid or Kennedy pyramid

Anonymous
The real SAT numbers for the top 10 schools. Since QO, NW and WM are so close I included all 3.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Chruchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153


These are the 2017 scores and the scores that are published for the schools. They are also on the crazy SAT poster's link. She had basically just cherry picked out a small cohort -100 kids to get her number. Lets play het game for Poolesville and Blair with only the asian students. Poolesville scores 1420 while Blair only scores 1290. Wow- Blair really sucks as a magnet no wonder it never shows up on lists for the top schools in MD or ever gets ranked nationally with other top magnets. Let's look at AA students for Blair, Poolesville and Churchill a non magnet. Poolesville 1380, Churchill 1174 and Blair 1032. Bye bye Blair again.

You can play that game and get whatever optical results you want which is very deceptive but somehow I doubt being honest is her goal.
Anonymous
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Forgetting or trying to make the point that CAP is more restricted yet both are open to Kennedy catchment without getting bogged down in such detail? Is it oversimplifying to assume upcounty doesn't read a DCC thread for these assurances???? Feel free to start some Poolesville-thumps-Wootton thread to draw off the trolls. You don't have to feel neglected.


You call it getting bogged down in such detail, I call it being factual.


Now, I'd call it anal to the point of disfunction. This is not a thread about the magnet--you might try interacting with the world with more nuance, or at least learn to butt out. But please, since you're here, tell me the one about how 32.7 under-qualified local students are admitted into the Takoma magnet yet there is no set aside at Eastern or whatever the up county equivalents are. And wait, does Blair do that? It's all so foggy....surely OP has bought that house and put her kids thru college by now, but let's keep this thread going.


All I did was provide some accurate information. Sorry that offended you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Forgetting or trying to make the point that CAP is more restricted yet both are open to Kennedy catchment without getting bogged down in such detail? Is it oversimplifying to assume upcounty doesn't read a DCC thread for these assurances???? Feel free to start some Poolesville-thumps-Wootton thread to draw off the trolls. You don't have to feel neglected.


You call it getting bogged down in such detail, I call it being factual.


Now, I'd call it anal to the point of disfunction. This is not a thread about the magnet--you might try interacting with the world with more nuance, or at least learn to butt out. But please, since you're here, tell me the one about how 32.7 under-qualified local students are admitted into the Takoma magnet yet there is no set aside at Eastern or whatever the up county equivalents are. And wait, does Blair do that? It's all so foggy....surely OP has bought that house and put her kids thru college by now, but let's keep this thread going.


All I did was provide some accurate information. Sorry that offended you.


PP1: Blair SMACS draws from the whole county.
PP2: Actually no, it only draws from these clusters.
PP3: You dysfunctional obsessive basement-dweller!
Anonymous
AGAIN I see we have this myth that will not die that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. So I am reposting the following from an old thread. This is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. Regular as in non-CAP, non-magnet...



There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Kennedy is not well regarded. The least desirable in the DCC.


Blair isn't especially well regraded save for being the "best" school in the DCC. Even then most of that reputation is by strives pining for the Magnet program which most everyone doesn't get invited to.

Yes, only by people who are afraid of colored folks, but it's the school that put MCPS on the National stage.
Go to Stuy or Bronx Science and ask them about a school in MoCo, MD.


I am happy that you are happy, just know it takes more to make me happy. I would imagine that people at Stuy or Bronx Science would respond with a "isn't Thomas Jefferson in MoCo?, that is a good school!".

Look at those DCC rates, yuck. And people in silver spring think there isn't white flight going on. Look up the levels from 5,10 & 20 years ago, they are sky rocketing. SJWs always say that at a point that high poverty levels in schools affect the whole school, how then say that their snowflakes aren't affected? It is either one or the other at a systemic level

Northwood: 52.45%
Wheaton: 49.74%
Kennedy: 46.86%
Einstein: 39.65%
Blair: 36.26%


Oh look, it's alt-right word bingo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kennedy is not well regarded. The least desirable in the DCC.


Blair isn't especially well regraded save for being the "best" school in the DCC. Even then most of that reputation is by strives pining for the Magnet program which most everyone doesn't get invited to.

Yes, only by people who are afraid of colored folks, but it's the school that put MCPS on the National stage.
Go to Stuy or Bronx Science and ask them about a school in MoCo, MD.


I am happy that you are happy, just know it takes more to make me happy. I would imagine that people at Stuy or Bronx Science would respond with a "isn't Thomas Jefferson in MoCo?, that is a good school!".

Look at those DCC rates, yuck. And people in silver spring think there isn't white flight going on. Look up the levels from 5,10 & 20 years ago, they are sky rocketing. SJWs always say that at a point that high poverty levels in schools affect the whole school, how then say that their snowflakes aren't affected? It is either one or the other at a systemic level

Northwood: 52.45%
Wheaton: 49.74%
Kennedy: 46.86%
Einstein: 39.65%
Blair: 36.26%


Oh look, it's alt-right word bingo.


Still waiting for "virtue-signaling".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:AGAIN I see we have this myth that will not die that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. So I am reposting the following from an old thread. This is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. Regular as in non-CAP, non-magnet...



There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu


List brings shame to Tiger Mom!

Not to me, though. I didn't get into a couple of schools on that list
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AGAIN I see we have this myth that will not die that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. So I am reposting the following from an old thread. This is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. Regular as in non-CAP, non-magnet...



There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu


List brings shame to Tiger Mom!

Not to me, though. I didn't get into a couple of schools on that list


No doubt Tiger Mom would focus on the SMAC and CAP destinations. Those were nuts!

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730523.page
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730693.page

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
The real SAT numbers for the top 10 schools. Since QO, NW and WM are so close I included all 3.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Chruchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153


These are the 2017 scores and the scores that are published for the schools. They are also on the crazy SAT poster's link. She had basically just cherry picked out a small cohort -100 kids to get her number. Lets play het game for Poolesville and Blair with only the asian students. Poolesville scores 1420 while Blair only scores 1290. Wow- Blair really sucks as a magnet no wonder it never shows up on lists for the top schools in MD or ever gets ranked nationally with other top magnets. Let's look at AA students for Blair, Poolesville and Churchill a non magnet. Poolesville 1380, Churchill 1174 and Blair 1032. Bye bye Blair again.

You can play that game and get whatever optical results you want which is very deceptive but somehow I doubt being honest is her goal.


Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
These are the 2017 scores and the scores that are published for the schools. They are also on the crazy SAT poster's link. She had basically just cherry picked out a small cohort -100 kids to get her number. Lets play het game for Poolesville and Blair with only the asian students. Poolesville scores 1420 while Blair only scores 1290. Wow- Blair really sucks as a magnet no wonder it never shows up on lists for the top schools in MD or ever gets ranked nationally with other top magnets. Let's look at AA students for Blair, Poolesville and Churchill a non magnet. Poolesville 1380, Churchill 1174 and Blair 1032. Bye bye Blair again.

You can play that game and get whatever optical results you want which is very deceptive but somehow I doubt being honest is her goal.


Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.


This goes exactly to the original SAT poster's point that simple averages are misleading and by performing a more granular analysis of a single common cohort we can see how the schools stack up.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AGAIN I see we have this myth that will not die that Blair HS, beyond its two magnet programs, is filled with nothing but low-achievers. So I am reposting the following from an old thread. This is a rundown of college destinations of the REGULAR student body in Blair's Class of 2018. Regular as in non-CAP, non-magnet...



There is this persistent myth about Blair that once you remove all the SMAC and CAP kids, you're just left with MS-13 members and dead-enders. You know what you're actually left with at Blair once you remove the magnet kids? A very respectable public high school full of bright, ambitious kids who go on to college, to big public universities and SLACs, to community college and even Top 10 schools.

Below is a sampling of college destinations among the REGULAR student body (non-CAP, non-SMAC) in the Class of 2018 at Blair. A very diverse list for a very diverse high school.

In addition to dozens of kids going to all Maryland public universities, including 35 to the flagship in College Park, and well over 100 kids going on to Montgomery College, 2018 Blair Academies (i.e. regular) graduates are continuing their educations at...

Yale, Cornell, Northwestern, UC Santa Barbara, Southern Cal, Case Western Reserve, Rensselaer Polytechnic, NYU, Boston U, Syracuse, Northeastern, U of Texas, U of Illinois, U of Vermont, U of Florida, U of Colorado, U of South Florida, U of South Carolina, U of Missouri, West Virginia, U of Kentucky, Penn State, Colorado State, Oberlin, Sewanee, Warren Wilson, Tulane, Temple, DePaul, Santa Clara, The New School, Grinnell, Fordham, St. John’s Univ, Ithaca, Hampshire, Smith, Goucher, Loyola Maryland, Dickinson, Occidental, American, Catholic, Dalhousie University, Spelman, Howard, Hampton, Clark Atlanta, North Carolina Central, Loyola New Orleans, CalArts, Baldwin Wallace, Appalachian State, Barry, Mount St. Mary’s, Winthrop, Lycoming, Virginia Commonwealth, Savannah College of Art & Design, Xavier, Alma College, George Mason, Seattle Univ, Columbia College of Chicago, Slippery Rock, Montclair State, U of West Kentucky, Hofstra, Stevenson, AMDA, Maryland Institute College of Art

Entire Class of 2018 destinations can be found in this issue:
https://issuu.com/silverchipsonline/docs/combinedsilverchipsmay2018forissuu


List brings shame to Tiger Mom!

Not to me, though. I didn't get into a couple of schools on that list


No doubt Tiger Mom would focus on the SMAC and CAP destinations. Those were nuts!

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730523.page
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/730693.page



Awesome!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.


Agree - it's more honest to perform an apple to apple comparison and look at how the largest common demographic compares as opposed to naively looking at a bulk average which reflects the school's demographics given the correlation SES and its impact on test scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.


Agree - it's more honest to perform an apple to apple comparison and look at how the largest common demographic compares as opposed to naively looking at a bulk average which reflects the school's demographics given the correlation SES and its impact on test scores.


But it doesn’t factor in the amount of demographics, there is only a couple kids at Blair that is pulling from where the other schools have thousands. Because there are so few at Blair the sat speaks to the specific kids, at some of the other schools it is a real average. Where is Whitman ?
Anonymous
Since when does somebody get to pick a handful of smart kids out of a lower tier school and say “see look at how high their averages are and how good the school is”. You don’t get to pretend that Blair’s SAT and graduation averages aren’t amount the lowest in MoCo. Cherry pick the middle class white kids all you want. It is especially funny when you brag about the diversity next even when you only pull data that excludes them. Show us some diverse data that impresses us.

Bottom line it is a mostly poor and minority school with average to poor data and you can find some small sample group that looks similar to the better schools but that isn’t Blair. You are rationalizing but without the magnet and those few kids (one would hope you could find a couple out of 3,000) Blair is Kennedy. Enjoy since you are so proud
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.


Agree - it's more honest to perform an apple to apple comparison and look at how the largest common demographic compares as opposed to naively looking at a bulk average which reflects the school's demographics given the correlation SES and its impact on test scores.


Ok grated SES impacts a school’s quality, then why can’t you admit that with the huge pockets of poor kids that Blair struggles at times? Be proud they are doing the best they can with what they have? Could be worse, imagine if west count didn’t send you some of their best and brightest to help bring your score up
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