Blair pyramid or Kennedy pyramid

[Anonymous]

suggest that if you want an even HIGHER scoring school move to Blair

Yeah right...and I'm moving to Hawaii for the great skiing and snowboarding.

[Anonymous]

You know all those news stories about Russian trolls who get paid to stir up discord and racial division on the internet? I think they have found DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.

This goes exactly to the original SAT poster's point that simple averages are misleading and by performing a more granular analysis of a single common cohort we can see how the schools stack up.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

How is it determined that Blair is the "most diverse" school in Maryland?

Thanks for remembering to include Poolesville. Although it's less than third Blair's size, it houses the other STEM magnet. Your approach is helpful because the schools are demographically very different. Poolesville is very homogenous whereas Blair is the most diverse school in Maryland. This is the best way to get a meaningful comparison between these schools with the data that is available.

I'm pretty sure Blair has been ranked the most diverse in MD by a number of places including Niche.

Diverse and high-performing. Clearly the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous]

Don't think so, the relevant scores are the ones for all the college bound students. Blair is in the top 10 but with out the magnet kids would fall below Watkins Mill and NW.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Churchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't think so, the relevant scores are the ones for all the college bound students. Blair is in the top 10 but with out the magnet kids would fall below Watkins Mill and NW.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Churchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153

Did you remove the magnet student scores from RM and Poolseville too?

[Anonymous]

The OP performed a more nuanced analysis that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up.

Their point was that simple averages like the PP posted are meaningless since they mainly tell us about an area's demographic makeup and affluence not how well kids with similar backgrounds perform.

Ultimately some people are interested in meaningful statistics while others will cling to these dated notions from the Jim Crowe era that value segregation.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/shared...c_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP performed a more nuanced analysis that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up.

Their point was that simple averages like the PP posted are meaningless since they mainly tell us about an area's demographic makeup and affluence not how well kids with similar backgrounds perform.

Ultimately some people are interested in meaningful statistics while others will cling to these dated notions from the Jim Crowe era that value segregation.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/shared...c_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

Very true but the W parents hate it when you call them on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Don't think so, the relevant scores are the ones for all the college bound students. Blair is in the top 10 but with out the magnet kids would fall below Watkins Mill and NW.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Churchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153

Did you remove the magnet student scores from RM and Poolseville too?

The above scores include the magnet kids for all schools. They are the official published scores not something made up on someone's clipboard cherry picking just a few students to be misleading. I'm surprised at how high Whitman scored. What is even more surprising is that Whitman, BCC, Churchill,WJ and Wootton all feed into the Blair SMACs program so the top STEM students from those clusters are probably in the Blair magnet program yet Blair is still WAY behind them in SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The OP performed a more nuanced analysis that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up.

Their point was that simple averages like the PP posted are meaningless since they mainly tell us about an area's demographic makeup and affluence not how well kids with similar backgrounds perform.

Ultimately some people are interested in meaningful statistics while others will cling to these dated notions from the Jim Crowe era that value segregation.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/shared...c_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You think not counting black and Latino scores in your averages even when they are the majority of the school makes you not racist? Why you acting like only the few white kids at Blair matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Don't think so, the relevant scores are the ones for all the college bound students. Blair is in the top 10 but with out the magnet kids would fall below Watkins Mill and NW.

Poolesville 1337
Whitman 1310
BCC 1258
Churchill 1276
Wootton 1240
WJ 1233
RM 1219
Blair 1174
QO 1163
Watkins Mill 1154 / Northwest 1153

Did you remove the magnet student scores from RM and Poolseville too?

The above scores include the magnet kids for all schools. They are the official published scores not something made up on someone's clipboard cherry picking just a few students to be misleading. I'm surprised at how high Whitman scored. What is even more surprising is that Whitman, BCC, Churchill,WJ and Wootton all feed into the Blair SMACs program so the top STEM students from those clusters are probably in the Blair magnet program yet Blair is still WAY behind them in SAT scores.

That is a good point

[Anonymous]

Wow I cant believe Blair is almost 50 points behind RM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NP: but that is what you are implying. If you wanted to look at all of white students scores you would have to compare them within their cohort year by year. The data that MCPS supplies only includes seniors for each reported year.

Agree plus why on earth are we focusing on 100 kids at Blair as some determining measure for the OP to buy a crappy house in the Blair cluster rather than a nicer house in the Kennedy cluster?

OP - buy the house that you love in the neighborhood that you like. For schools, give them a chance and if it doesn't work in K-8 there are less expensive parochial private schools that are very popular with people in SS. For HS wait until your child is older and knows his/hers interests and strengths and then choose the school through the consortium that best fits his/her needs.

If you want a high scoring school where everyone achieves close to the top range then move west, Blair or Kennedy is not that school. If you like the idea of a school that offers specialization then the DCC is a good option for your child to take more courses in subjects he/she is passionate about in high school.

The facts presented here suggest that if you want an even HIGHER scoring school move to Blair.

Are you assuming the OP is white?

[Anonymous]

Wow I cant believe Blair is almost 50 points behind RM

RM and QO are the real success stories in the county. RM scores keep improving and the surrounding area is super nice. There is a mix of affordable yet nice SFHs, upscale houses and renovated historic houses and some low income housing. Same with QO. Blair hasn't changed at all over the years other than getting more crowded. The performance just stagnates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.

This goes exactly to the original SAT poster's point that simple averages are misleading and by performing a more granular analysis of a single common cohort we can see how the schools stack up.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

How is it determined that Blair is the "most diverse" school in Maryland?

Thanks for remembering to include Poolesville. Although it's less than third Blair's size, it houses the other STEM magnet. Your approach is helpful because the schools are demographically very different. Poolesville is very homogenous whereas Blair is the most diverse school in Maryland. This is the best way to get a meaningful comparison between these schools with the data that is available.

I'm pretty sure Blair has been ranked the most diverse in MD by a number of places including Niche.

Diverse and high-performing. Clearly the best of both worlds.

It's amazing that Blair consistently outperforms these schools in any apples to apples comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, her post attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences across these schools by simply comparing the largest common cohort performs as a way to see how the schools actually stack up as opposed to which school has the richest or poorest demographic mix.

This goes exactly to the original SAT poster's point that simple averages are misleading and by performing a more granular analysis of a single common cohort we can see how the schools stack up.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148
Kennedy 1088

How is it determined that Blair is the "most diverse" school in Maryland?

Thanks for remembering to include Poolesville. Although it's less than third Blair's size, it houses the other STEM magnet. Your approach is helpful because the schools are demographically very different. Poolesville is very homogenous whereas Blair is the most diverse school in Maryland. This is the best way to get a meaningful comparison between these schools with the data that is available.

I'm pretty sure Blair has been ranked the most diverse in MD by a number of places including Niche.

Diverse and high-performing. Clearly the best of both worlds.

It's amazing that Blair consistently outperforms these schools in any apples to apples comparison.

True, naively looking at demographic differences creates a false narrative. Their more granular analysis which isolates for socioeconomic differences is meaningful, unlike the averages which mainly tell us about an areas affluence.