So, bottom line-we don’t know AND it still isn’t any of our business |
I could NOT agree more. I think it's very unfortunate and creates a false sense of "you have all the time in the world!" |
people you seen in a fertility clinic are those struggling to conceive. what you are not seeing are all the older women who conceive naturally (many of them abort). your perspective is skewed... not saying it is easy or probably that one can get pregnant at 45 but it is definitely more common than fertility industry portrays it to be. |
+1 This! |
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People really are projecting so much of their own drama on this couple. Just let them be.
And I say this as someone who dealt with infertility myself |
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Just because someone makes movies does not give the public the right to know every detail of their private lives. Rachel doesn't seem like the actress to seek media attention...she and Daniel do not owe anyone an explanation as to how they conceived their baby.
On a personal note, I have twins. Random people would ask me if I conceived them naturally -- I was dumbstruck by their audacity to ask me such a personal question. In this day and age, some people have no boundaries and respect for personal matters. |
weisz and craig certainly don't owe anyone an explanation... but they chose careers whose whole point and the mark of ultimate success is to become a household name. so yes, people are going to speculate about their lives. given the number of people who are trying to become famous it's seems that's generally perceived as a small price to pay. |
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So i looked this up out of interest.
In 2015 there were approx. 8200 babies born to women 45 and older in the US. (from CDC). That same year there were a total of 22,709 donor IVF cycles started in the US with a success rate of 60% that year so about 13,700 donor egg babies. (This is the data from SART--society assisted reproductive technology--which includes the data of 80% of US fertility clinics). How many of these are to women 45 and older? I'd estimate a half? 6850 babies. So you're talking about 1-2K naturally conceived babies over age 45 in the US. That's a very, very small number. Heck, 8K is a very, very small number when the overall number of births was 3.9 million. |
This post makes no sense. You just made up half. Lots of people under 45 need help getting pregnant! |
| My youngest sister is 52 and is still having her periods like clockwork. She has never used BC pills, and got pregnant within weeks of her husband not using condoms. If they do not use condoms, I am pretty sure they will get pregnant. She also had her kids in her late 30s. She is very fertile and she is also naturally young looking just like Rachel Weisz. |
the fertility industry has a vested interest in making women believe natural conception will be hard. I don't believe for a minute this person works at a fertility clinic though that is completely pointless anyway since a lot of people work in medical facilities with no credentials (answering phones, restocking coffee, etc.). She fails to acknowledge that half of infertile couples are there because of issues with the male. And many causes of infertility have nothing to do with age. |
So you are grouping all women who are trying to have a baby together which is a bad way to do math. Statistically, a lot of women 45 and older will not be trying for a baby which right there is sufficient to explain the low birth rate. For one, the average age of first babies in the US is I believe 26, and the average number of babies per woman is 2.4. So by the time most women are 45, they've had the babies they want. I will be one of those women 45 and older not having a baby, simply because I had the family I wanted by mid 30s and don't want any more kids. That doesn't mean the fact that I won't be trying to have a baby after 45 should mean anything. Second, there are some women who get to 45 without having kids, and those women have likely decided they don't want kids, maybe they tried earlier and couldn't have them. But anyway, I suspect not a lot of women wake up after 45 and say "I want to have kids!" Sure some do, hence the 8,200. But most don't. Further, you fail to take into account that 7,000 babies are aborted every year by women in this age group. Oopsies. |
| The most interesting facts in this thread to me are: (1) that the father is Daniel Craig - I had no idea they are a couple!; and (2) that Rachel Weisz is stillso drop dead gorgeous. I am happy for her and don’t care how this pregnancy came to be. Signed, Someone who experienced infertility and is sensitive to intrusive questions on the subject |
Meh I’m sure they want success but they aren’t like the Kardashian’s who call the tabloids or their tv crew every time they take a dump. There are celebs who are great about flying under their radar. I had no idea they were even a couple and I’m someone who follows this crap. Just because someone goes into acting doesn’t mean they want everyone to know about the intimate details of their lives. People forget that in 20 years from now this donor egg or Rachel egg or whatever will have developed and been born and grown up and be a person possibly in college or in the world. Really crappy for people to say that they have a right to know how they were conceived. We just don’t. They may have chosen a public life but their kids and future kids have not. |
what? i estimate less than 5%. a vast majority of women 45+ have completed their families a long time ago or, if infertile, have closed that chapter of their lives. very very very few 45+ old women even in places like DCUM are trying to have children. |