Just make Jamestown an Option School Already

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The initial 800 seats for the CC are proposed for 2024-25. Those aren't the seats that will replace the Ed Center seats. Those are the other portion of the 1300 HS seats that have been TBD for two CIP processes. Building more seats at the CC to replace the Ed Center seats will happen in phase 2, which must be after 2024-25. So the SB probably plans to deal with where to move Montessori around the same time that it is planning for the new S Arlington elementary school around 2025. They probably also don't want too much attention paid to the tens of millions of dollars it's going to cost to replace the Henry seats if they tear down that building. Those costs aren't being mentioned anywhere.

This is the most ridiculous and wasteful thing. Build and tear down, build and tear down. How about STOP and think it through first. We're still paying debt service on the Reed building which is going to be torn down.

And how is punting going to make this any easier? If they build a new S Arlington ES, how will having to relocate Montessori help? They aren't going to get as many seats if they tear down one ES just to build another. So wasteful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The initial 800 seats for the CC are proposed for 2024-25. Those aren't the seats that will replace the Ed Center seats. Those are the other portion of the 1300 HS seats that have been TBD for two CIP processes. Building more seats at the CC to replace the Ed Center seats will happen in phase 2, which must be after 2024-25. So the SB probably plans to deal with where to move Montessori around the same time that it is planning for the new S Arlington elementary school around 2025. They probably also don't want too much attention paid to the tens of millions of dollars it's going to cost to replace the Henry seats if they tear down that building. Those costs aren't being mentioned anywhere.

They're not being mentioned in this elementary planning initiative, but they are being considered in the CIP process. Look at the presentation from Tuesday's work session, pages 22 and 31-32.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The initial 800 seats for the CC are proposed for 2024-25. Those aren't the seats that will replace the Ed Center seats. Those are the other portion of the 1300 HS seats that have been TBD for two CIP processes. Building more seats at the CC to replace the Ed Center seats will happen in phase 2, which must be after 2024-25. So the SB probably plans to deal with where to move Montessori around the same time that it is planning for the new S Arlington elementary school around 2025. They probably also don't want too much attention paid to the tens of millions of dollars it's going to cost to replace the Henry seats if they tear down that building. Those costs aren't being mentioned anywhere.

This is the most ridiculous and wasteful thing. Build and tear down, build and tear down. How about STOP and think it through first. We're still paying debt service on the Reed building which is going to be torn down.

And how is punting going to make this any easier? If they build a new S Arlington ES, how will having to relocate Montessori help? They aren't going to get as many seats if they tear down one ES just to build another. So wasteful!

They have to tear it down either way to make room for a fourth high school. Henry is just a way station for the Montessori program until they can develop a more permanent home for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The initial 800 seats for the CC are proposed for 2024-25. Those aren't the seats that will replace the Ed Center seats. Those are the other portion of the 1300 HS seats that have been TBD for two CIP processes. Building more seats at the CC to replace the Ed Center seats will happen in phase 2, which must be after 2024-25. So the SB probably plans to deal with where to move Montessori around the same time that it is planning for the new S Arlington elementary school around 2025. They probably also don't want too much attention paid to the tens of millions of dollars it's going to cost to replace the Henry seats if they tear down that building. Those costs aren't being mentioned anywhere.

They're not being mentioned in this elementary planning initiative, but they are being considered in the CIP process. Look at the presentation from Tuesday's work session, pages 22 and 31-32.

Nope. Those slides show the cost of tearing down Henry and separately the costs of building a new S Arlington ES around 2025. The costs for building a new facility for Montessori if they tear down Henry (either by rebuilding the Ed Center as an ES or by building another school for them elsewhere) are not shown on those slides. Please recall that a new S Arlington ES is needed even before they tear down Henry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The initial 800 seats for the CC are proposed for 2024-25. Those aren't the seats that will replace the Ed Center seats. Those are the other portion of the 1300 HS seats that have been TBD for two CIP processes. Building more seats at the CC to replace the Ed Center seats will happen in phase 2, which must be after 2024-25. So the SB probably plans to deal with where to move Montessori around the same time that it is planning for the new S Arlington elementary school around 2025. They probably also don't want too much attention paid to the tens of millions of dollars it's going to cost to replace the Henry seats if they tear down that building. Those costs aren't being mentioned anywhere.

They're not being mentioned in this elementary planning initiative, but they are being considered in the CIP process. Look at the presentation from Tuesday's work session, pages 22 and 31-32.

Nope. Those slides show the cost of tearing down Henry and separately the costs of building a new S Arlington ES around 2025. The costs for building a new facility for Montessori if they tear down Henry (either by rebuilding the Ed Center as an ES or by building another school for them elsewhere) are not shown on those slides. Please recall that a new S Arlington ES is needed even before they tear down Henry.

Another new elementary school in South Arlington can free up space elsewhere for Montessori. You are getting 725 new elementary seats in South Arlington the year after next, far more than you need. With another elementary school, even with finding space for Montessori, you will be sitting pretty.

[Anonymous]

"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

There's going to be a massive seat deficit all around the county. The School Board and County Board admit they missed the influx of students from single family home turnover over the last 10-15 years, but they are still pushing the company line that apartments and condos do not generate students in a meaningful way and continue to approve large developments with hundreds of units (both market rate and dedicated affordable). I think this will be the source of the next major miss in growth projections as the county continues to become more urban.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

Even after Reed opens, that seat shortage is expected to be disproportionately in the north, especially NE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

Even after Reed opens, that seat shortage is expected to be disproportionately in the north, especially NE.

The NE will have the most available space? I thought it was the NW?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

There's going to be a massive seat deficit all around the county. The School Board and County Board admit they missed the influx of students from single family home turnover over the last 10-15 years, but they are still pushing the company line that apartments and condos do not generate students in a meaningful way and continue to approve large developments with hundreds of units (both market rate and dedicated affordable). I think this will be the source of the next major miss in growth projections as the county continues to become more urban.

Regardless of what quadrant has the greatest deficit of seats in 7 years, I think we can agree that building a new ES at that time won't in any way provide the seats that will be missing if we tear down Henry. Nice attempt to change the subject though. The point from above was that the costs of replacing the Henry seats (either at the Ed Center or elsewhere) are not being mentioned either in thd CIP or the elementary process. They will be significant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

Even after Reed opens, that seat shortage is expected to be disproportionately in the north, especially NE.

The NE will have the most available space? I thought it was the NW?

The seat *shortage* will be disproportionately in NE. Shortage means not having as much as you need, as opposed to an excess or abundance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

There's going to be a massive seat deficit all around the county. The School Board and County Board admit they missed the influx of students from single family home turnover over the last 10-15 years, but they are still pushing the company line that apartments and condos do not generate students in a meaningful way and continue to approve large developments with hundreds of units (both market rate and dedicated affordable). I think this will be the source of the next major miss in growth projections as the county continues to become more urban.

Regardless of what quadrant has the greatest deficit of seats in 7 years, I think we can agree that building a new ES at that time won't in any way provide the seats that will be missing if we tear down Henry. Nice attempt to change the subject though. The point from above was that the costs of replacing the Henry seats (either at the Ed Center or elsewhere) are not being mentioned either in thd CIP or the elementary process. They will be significant.

The seats at Henry are going away regardless because they need the full parcel for a high school (and if you have kids old enough to be worrying about this current elementary process, you really need to be focused on the high school process as well because it will have a substantial effect on the quality of your kids' high school experience). The CIP is planning for adding as many extra elementary seats as they think they can feasibly accomplish, but I don't know what else you expect them to do.

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't that argue for any future ES seats at the Ed Center being neighborhood then, and the new school being built in S Arlington being a replacement for Henry / Montessori. Maybe on the Kenmore campus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

There's going to be a massive seat deficit all around the county. The School Board and County Board admit they missed the influx of students from single family home turnover over the last 10-15 years, but they are still pushing the company line that apartments and condos do not generate students in a meaningful way and continue to approve large developments with hundreds of units (both market rate and dedicated affordable). I think this will be the source of the next major miss in growth projections as the county continues to become more urban.

Regardless of what quadrant has the greatest deficit of seats in 7 years, I think we can agree that building a new ES at that time won't in any way provide the seats that will be missing if we tear down Henry. Nice attempt to change the subject though. The point from above was that the costs of replacing the Henry seats (either at the Ed Center or elsewhere) are not being mentioned either in thd CIP or the elementary process. They will be significant.

The seats at Henry are going away regardless because they need the full parcel for a high school (and if you have kids old enough to be worrying about this current elementary process, you really need to be focused on the high school process as well because it will have a substantial effect on the quality of your kids' high school experience). The CIP is planning for adding as many extra elementary seats as they think they can feasibly accomplish, but I don't know what else you expect them to do.

I'm very concerned about HS seats and want comprehensive planning on that. I just think we need to be up front about all the associated costs and groups that will be impacted. Kicking the can down the road just creates more problems and could delay any planned construction at the CC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"You"? It's us vs them, eh? Very nice. I'm a N Arlington resident actually. Funny that you pointed me to the slides but then say that S Arlington will have more than enough seats. Did you not see the massive ES seat deficit on the horizon? Self-serving, much?

Even after Reed opens, that seat shortage is expected to be disproportionately in the north, especially NE.

The NE will have the most available space? I thought it was the NW?

The seat *shortage* will be disproportionately in NE. Shortage means not having as much as you need, as opposed to an excess or abundance.

Jamestown has plenty of space. Once Key and ASF are true neighborhood schools we will have plenty of seats in NE.