Just make Jamestown an Option School Already

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the key in thinking which school they recommend, if they do, cause right who knows what APS will do, is thinking about future capacity for the school switching. The APS CIP plan is saying all choice to go above 700 in less than 4 years so it must be a place with that capacity or it doesn't make sense. Also remember parents APS' proposal may very well be for a double swap - schools not school to be moved language is used both in regards to the choice programs and neighborhood schools. And something else I know my school missed at first is this switch could happen fall of 2021 or 2020 so any k-2 in any of the 20 neighborhood schools mentioned could be impacted.

Here is the updated facilities optimization report: https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apsva.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F11%2FFacilities-Optimization-Study.pdf&h=ATN0MaUHE5huQ3mMHn8ADvzU9Muv4V2z9neHasDJl7FELTbXkNfUFuVapETp8-UqZZnj5WVw5yTdDc1BFp84IFDqUIhClkVKg7CgWBMXxjjXDt0

They have to match also with the county's CIP choice enrollment wishes. I would say the ship has sailed on keeping ATS small, the board made that overwhelmingly clear at the last meeting. Further you can now look at the responses for the Choice consideration survey when trying to determine where these swaps should take place.

Choice Consideration Responses: chrome-extension://bpmcpldpdmajfigpchkicefoigmkfalc/views/app.html?uuid=10c4d566-57a5-47be-d388-c00b902526f1

The APS staff will release it's list of criteria they will use to make the April 12 recommendation next week.

Link? How/why do they propose to do that? Not every school has the depth of a wait-list to grow to that size. And the building they vacate would be left to be overcrowded neighborhood schools? Are you just making stuff up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

If they want to grow the option programs to those sizes, shouldn't they be moved into buildings that already have that capacity? Like Reed or Fleet? Wasn't that what APS planned to do before the neighborhoods said they wouldn't support those schools being built unless they were neighborhood seats?

[Anonymous]

https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/arlington/Board.nsf/files/AWNTX67973BE/$file/E-3%20AFSAP%20%26%20CIP%20Framework.pdf

They are going to add a K at campbell and ATS next year and then keep steady at that level of classes as it increases per year. Soooo in five years there will be that new extra class in all grades. Given current numbers of 24 kids per class, it's simple math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

In such a scenario, my child would go to Discovery with a bunch of other Nottingham kids, but far from all of them. A lot of those Nottingham kids would go to Tuckahoe, some would go to Reed, and a handful probably to Glebe. So it's no different from how Tuckahoe would be divided; if anything, Tuckahoe probably gets divided among only three schools rather than four.

The only real difference is that I believe my child has the ability to cope whereas you apparently believe yours don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

In such a scenario, my child would go to Discovery with a bunch of other Nottingham kids, but far from all of them. A lot of those Nottingham kids would go to Tuckahoe, some would go to Reed, and a handful probably to Glebe. So it's no different from how Tuckahoe would be divided; if anything, Tuckahoe probably gets divided among only three schools rather than four.

The only real difference is that I believe my child has the ability to cope whereas you apparently believe yours don't.

Oh yes, your child is better than hers!!!!! I'm sure that's what you meant. I can see how Nottingham got such a great reputation for being inclusive of kids with special needs. Did you learn that from your principal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

In such a scenario, my child would go to Discovery with a bunch of other Nottingham kids, but far from all of them. A lot of those Nottingham kids would go to Tuckahoe, some would go to Reed, and a handful probably to Glebe. So it's no different from how Tuckahoe would be divided; if anything, Tuckahoe probably gets divided among only three schools rather than four.

The only real difference is that I believe my child has the ability to cope whereas you apparently believe yours don't.

Oh yes, your child is better than hers!!!!! I'm sure that's what you meant. I can see how Nottingham got such a great reputation for being inclusive of kids with special needs. Did you learn that from your principal?

I have a child with special needs at Nottingham, we've had a very good experience there. I recognize that some people haven't, but that's true of any school.

[Anonymous]

Tuckahoe brings "moral cohesion" to EFC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t have kids in either school and therefore will not be affected, but I just wanted to throw out there that I thought one additional thing they are trying to consider when choosing an option school is accessibility by public transportation. Tuckahoe is easily accessible whereas Jamestown is not. A school that is not easily accessible may discourage lower income families - who may rely on public transport - from applying. It’s not just getting the kids to/from school but also having a way for parents to get there for conferences, picking up and dropping off kids outside of normal arrival/dismissal times, etc...

Nowhere has anyone mentioned accessibility to public transport as weighing in favor of an option school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

If they want to grow the option programs to those sizes, shouldn't they be moved into buildings that already have that capacity? Like Reed or Fleet? Wasn't that what APS planned to do before the neighborhoods said they wouldn't support those schools being built unless they were neighborhood seats?

F#ck you. You aren’t getting Fleet.
Xo,
South Arlington

[Anonymous]

What is it folks are afraid of? Out with it. Is option code for something?

[Anonymous]

Jamestown in its present state should cease to exist. The miserable striver culture is at full peak and I’m tired of dealing with moms who have nothing better to do than try to orchestrate their children’s social lives. I’m all for it becoming an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jamestown in its present state should cease to exist. The miserable striver culture is at full peak and I’m tired of dealing with moms who have nothing better to do than try to orchestrate their children’s social lives. I’m all for it becoming an option.

Oh Sarah, are you sad none of the other families will let their children play with yours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jamestown in its present state should cease to exist. The miserable striver culture is at full peak and I’m tired of dealing with moms who have nothing better to do than try to orchestrate their children’s social lives. I’m all for it becoming an option.

Oh Sarah, are you sad none of the other families will let their children play with yours?

Ha, no. She (and her children) have been welcomed. Strivers gonna strive with whoever happens to be in office. Also, she drinks...or at least did at the local Halloween party...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jamestown in its present state should cease to exist. The miserable striver culture is at full peak and I’m tired of dealing with moms who have nothing better to do than try to orchestrate their children’s social lives. I’m all for it becoming an option.

Oh Sarah, are you sad none of the other families will let their children play with yours?

Ha, no. She (and her children) have been welcomed. Strivers gonna strive with whoever happens to be in office. Also, she drinks...or at least did at the local Halloween party...

I don't know this person you are referencing, but I know most of the parents drink. What's your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the Tuckahoe families, what would be truly so devastating about Tuckahoe becoming a choice school as opposed to one of the other schools? I believe I've posted this before in one of the discussions, but as a Nottingham parent, the idea of Nottingham becoming a choice school doesn't really bother me. So my kid goes to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates for a couple of years and then sees everyone again in middle school, so what? There's no big tragedy there. I'm not actually opposed to Nottingham becoming a choice school, but it has to be the best decision for the system as a whole, not just for a particular school. How is Tuckahoe differently situated from Nottingham that Tuckahoe families can't take the same position?

So you say your kid would go to Discovery with a whole bunch of their classmates. Good point. But if Tuckahoe becomes an option school in 2021, probably around 70 of my kid's classmates will go to Reed. The other 30 would be split between three schools. So they wouldn't go with a whole bunch of kids, but very few.

And if it doesn't bother you, write the School Board and tell them that.

And for the East Falls Church community, Tuckahoe is a very important part of its cohesiveness. If Nottingham doesn't serve the same purpose in your community, it is a better choice for an option school.

i don't think APS should be doing anything. Keep ATS where it is. If they have to grow, they can't do it at Nottingham or Tuckahoe. So that exchange wouldn't make any sense. And it would just overcrowd all of the schools under discussion. We should come together as part of Arlington and argue for that common cause.

Not all of the Tuckahoe community identifies with East Falls Church, a good portion of it identifies with Westover and would much prefer to go to Reed than to Tuckahoe.