AAP appeal declined

[Anonymous]

PP here again. That Email ID is for OSCAR from the AAP Office. He is very helpful.

Anonymous wrote:Please try reaching Ms. Laura or Oscar at this email ID: [e-mail]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here again. That Email ID is for OSCAR from the AAP Office. He is very helpful.

Anonymous wrote:Please try reaching Ms. Laura or Oscar at this email ID: [b][e-mail][/b]

This address is incorrect. Take off the first letter.

[Anonymous]

Thank you
Will do

[Anonymous]

OP if you don't mind keeping us posted - I am very curious

[Anonymous]

NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP if you don't mind keeping us posted - I am very curious

Sure will update

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

Op here
That is so unfair

AAP is a program they offer to FC residents so if they are cutting back slots they should increase the cutoff not randomly reject kids with high score
There should not be any difference in the selection process for level IV based on school as this is a central committee decision

Don’t know what to say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

FCPS is required by state law to provide gifted services. FCPS is basically not providing gifted services to kids who make the benchmarks as gifted because they have no space at some schools, and then providing services to kids in other schools who don't meet the benchmarks. I know it's a wholistic analysis that's not just based on scores, but the focus should be on providing kids with high scores, regardless of school, the proper services. While the name was changed to Advanced Academic Services, it is still the program FCPS holds out to the state as meeting its legal requirements. It's basically failing to meet those requirements. There should be a FOIA request for all scores with names redacted--I know, wholistic approach...But if there is a pattern of turning away kids with high scores because they would go to certain schools, then clearly the decision is being made based on space rather than determining whether the child qualifies for gifted services based on factors such as test scores and GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

There is no cap on the number of kids accepted to AAP.

Sports have no correlation to bitterness and have no bearing on an AAP application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

That sounds like utter nonsense. The point of the program is to provide services to gifted children. They can't provide those services to some and not to others, because there is no space in a particular school. Find a way to challenge this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

There is no cap on the number of kids accepted to AAP.

Sports have no correlation to bitterness and have no bearing on an AAP application.

+1, If school has more AAP kids they will open new class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

There is no cap on the number of kids accepted to AAP.

Sports have no correlation to bitterness and have no bearing on an AAP application.

+1, If school has more AAP kids they will open new class.

The problem is finding teachers for AAP classes. You can't put most of the teachers in Gen ed in AAP classes without training and that can't happen overnight. Many teachers are not interested in teaching AAP classes because of the commitment to get certified for the next several years. To keep existing teachers hired in their school, they want to ensure the balance between Gen ed and AAP classes and not too many AAP classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. [b]Some schools are very over crowded. [/b] They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

That sounds like utter nonsense. The point of the program is to provide services to gifted children. They can't provide those services to some and not to others, because there is no space in a particular school. Find a way to challenge this.

This is second case similar to OP. We have two posters reporting thier child did not get admission to AAP with 99 percentile on NNAT, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WIS, GBRS=15!!

The reasoning about limited space in school is so lame! FCPS second grader files (in-pool +parent referrals) is not yet gone to central committee for review which means the only applicants were from private school for starting AAP in 3rd grade they can't be 1000's!
How did administrator decided that some schools are over crowded if they don't know who many applicants are there and could get qualified!!

I have heard from central school AART resource that AAP has no space limitation, they will open new class if needed.

Something doesn't add up!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

Someone at the main AAP office specifically told your school administrator that there were limited AAP slots available?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. [b]Some schools are very over crowded. [/b] They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

That sounds like utter nonsense. The point of the program is to provide services to gifted children. They can't provide those services to some and not to others, because there is no space in a particular school. Find a way to challenge this.

This is second case similar to OP. We have two posters reporting their child did not get admission to AAP with 99 percentile on NNAT, 99 percentile on COGAT, 99 percentile on WISC and GBRS of 15!!

The reasoning about limited space in school is so lame! FCPS second grader files (in-pool +parent referrals) is not yet gone to central committee for review, which means the only applicants were from private school for starting AAP in 3rd grade and they can't be 1000's applying!
How did administrator decided that some schools are over-crowded if they don't know how many applicants are there for second grade (they would know in-pool but not parent referral) and potentially could get qualify for AAP admission!

I have heard from central school AART resource that AAP has no space limitation, they will open new class if needed.

Something doesn't add up!!