AAP appeal declined

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

Someone at the main AAP office specifically told your school administrator that there were limited AAP slots available?!

Lol I know

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

Someone at the main AAP office specifically told your school administrator that there were limited AAP slots available?!

This is second case similar to OP. We have two posters reporting their child did not get admission to AAP with 99 percentile on NNAT, 99 percentile on COGAT, 99 percentile on WISC and GBRS of 15!!

The reasoning about limited space in school is so lame! FCPS second grader files (in-pool +parent referrals) is not yet gone to central committee for review, which means the only applicants were from private school for starting AAP in 3rd grade and they can't be 1000's applying!
How did administrator decided that some schools are over-crowded if they don't know how many applicants are there for second grade (they would know in-pool but not parent referral) and potentially could get qualify for AAP admission!

I have heard from central school AART resource that AAP has no space limitation, they will open new class if needed.

Something doesn't add up!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP here. We are in the same boat as OP. My DD received 99 percentile on Nnat, 99 percentile on COGAT and 99 percentile on WISC. Grbs of 15. We showed well rounded athletic abilities as she is involved on multiple sports, piano etc.. creative writing, language and math samples. We also applied from private school. I called my local aap and was told they dont know what happened, they dont make decisions.

OP what is your AAP school?

Other kids got in with lower scores from my school. My school administator called the main ASP administrator and was told scores and selections are based on which ES you are applying to. Some schools are very over crowded. They listed my school as being one of the ones they are cutting slots on this year along with a few others.

There is no cap on the number of kids accepted to AAP.

Sports have no correlation to bitterness and have no bearing on an AAP application.

+1, If school has more AAP kids they will open new class.

The problem is finding teachers for AAP classes. You can't put most of the teachers in Gen ed in AAP classes without training and that can't happen overnight. Many teachers are not interested in teaching AAP classes because of the commitment to get certified for the next several years. To keep existing teachers hired in their school, they want to ensure the balance between Gen ed and AAP classes and not too many AAP classes.

Agreed. This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it. In some schools, they retain many AAP teachers or Ged Ed teachers who are willing to take on challenges (I wouldn't name the schools or zip code but I'm sure many of you have an idea), but this is the dilemma that the majority of the school administrators have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it.

I agree that this is likely, but space limitations and filling out a cohort would affect kids who are borderline - not kids who have really high test scores and ought to be shoo-ins. Either way, I doubt that anyone from the central committee would directly admit that the specific school matters, or that there are any space limitations to the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it.

I agree that this is likely, but space limitations and filling out a cohort would affect kids who are borderline - not kids who have really high test scores and ought to be shoo-ins. Either way, I doubt that anyone from the central committee would directly admit that the specific school matters, or that there are any space limitations to the program.

THIS! The only thing I can think is that they are biased against private school kids. Like, hey, FCPS wasn't good enough for you for K-2 so don't come begging to use our AAP program now. But OP and PP both said other kids from their schools with lower scores are getting in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it.

I agree that this is likely, but space limitations and filling out a cohort would affect kids who are borderline - not kids who have really high test scores and ought to be shoo-ins. Either way, I doubt that anyone from the central committee would directly admit that the specific school matters, or that there are any space limitations to the program.

Whats the borderline scores that could be affected? Would it be something like 128-132? What about kids with scores a little over 132?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please try reaching Ms. Laura or Oscar at this email ID: [e-mail]

I am also waiting for a call from specialist today... did talk to Oscar and he said they(specialist) were busy yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Whats the borderline scores that could be affected? Would it be something like 128-132? What about kids with scores a little over 132?

It seems like there's high variability in the acceptance for kids with test scores in the 120-131 range or with barely in-pool scores + lower GBRS. I wonder if they are viewed by the committee as not specifically needing AAP, but being acceptable to fill out a cohort.

FWIW, people in my neighborhood are open with scores, and nearly everyone got into the AAP center. Most of the kids had scores in the low 120s and were solid students, but not outliers in any sense. It's hard for me to imagine that any of those kids "need AAP", but they all would be acceptable fillers in an AAP classroom.

This is all speculation, though, since none of us knows what goes on behind the scenes for the AAP selection. It would make a lot of sense if they had a target number for each center, as well as a minimum and maximum value they reasonably want to accommodate. Some centers then would have more capacity to admit borderline kids to reach their target numbers, whereas other ones might have very little room. This is irrelevant to OP's situation, though, as the stats were shoo-in level and not at all borderline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,

My son goes to private school currently and is in 2nd grade

We applied for aap and got rejected with NNAT - 160(99%) and cogat-139 composite score. They said they don’t care much about GBRS from private school teachers, he got 15.

We had taken wisc V with private doc and he got FSIQ 138 and appealed with this score

Today we got an email saying he is not eligible

I went through the forum and also met many FCPS parents, everyone is puzzled with this decision

Has anyone gone through similar experience

Please share

Thanks

Hi any update from AAP center on your case. I am also in same situation my daughter is in private school with very strong application and higher test scores, but got rejected.

[Anonymous]

Op here
Still waiting for the call

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it.

I agree that this is likely, but space limitations and filling out a cohort would affect kids who are borderline - not kids who have really high test scores and ought to be shoo-ins. Either way, I doubt that anyone from the central committee would directly admit that the specific school matters, or that there are any space limitations to the program.

Whats the borderline scores that could be affected? Would it be something like 128-132? What about kids with scores a little over 132?

generally child with high borderline (127-131)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why FCPS central committee will have to consider which school your child goes to when they determine an eligibility for AAP even if they don't or can't say it.

I agree that this is likely, but space limitations and filling out a cohort would affect kids who are borderline - not kids who have really high test scores and ought to be shoo-ins. Either way, I doubt that anyone from the central committee would directly admit that the specific school matters, or that there are any space limitations to the program.

THIS! The only thing I can think is that they are biased against private school kids. Like, hey, FCPS wasn't good enough for you for K-2 so don't come begging to use our AAP program now. But OP and PP both said other kids from their schools with lower scores are getting in.

It is too early to decide AAP class strength in specific hence denying private kid AAP admission makes no sense. Only private students application has been seen by the committee so far. 'Biasing against private school student' that is not how institute works!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all,

My son goes to private school currently and is in 2nd grade

We applied for aap and got rejected with NNAT - 160(99%) and cogat-139 composite score. They said they don’t care much about GBRS from private school teachers, he got 15.

We had taken wisc V with private doc and he got FSIQ 138 and appealed with this score

Today we got an email saying he is not eligible

I went through the forum and also met many FCPS parents, everyone is puzzled with this decision

Has anyone gone through similar experience

Please share

Thanks

Hi any update from AAP center on your case. I am also in same situation my daughter is in private school with very strong application and higher test scores, but got rejected.

What are your DC scores - this will be third poster reporting AAP denial.

[Anonymous]

OP, please keep us posted on how this goes. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

The story of these two kids looks like Advanced Trolling. 8 pages of responses so far.